<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The glamour position of the NBA remains just that. Filled with spectacular athletes capable of taking over games in any number of ways, they can grab the ball off the rim, take the ball the length of the floor, and burn defenders from the perimeter or off the dribble on a whim. The bigger question is how do you differentiate between the elite shooting guards who play the game today? Seriously now ... do you really think Dwyane Wade is a better basketball player than Kobe Bryant? Then again, is Kobe Bryant more talented than Tracy McGrady? And while we're at it, is any one of the aforementioned trio even close to being the same kind of consistent leader that Ray Allen was for the Seattle SuperSonics last season? Not to be forgotten is the biggest winner of the entire group ? Manu Ginobili, who in the last four seasons has won two NBA titles, an Olympic gold medal and a European title.</div> http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4806088 Personally I think Kobe has more talent but wade is the better player...
Tracy Mcgrady is the best shooting guard in the NBA and has never depended on a big guy to make life easier for him. Only this past year has T-mac been with a decent big man. We all saw how much Kobe struggled without Shaq this past year. Obviously Wade didn't do too badly without Shaq in his rookie year and the games Shaq missed due to injury but Mcgrady really has the complete package. Him having more range is why he should be ranked ahead of Wade. Tracy is the most talented guard since MJ. His only problem has been motivation and willing to work hard. However in Houston that seems to have been fixed.
hmmm <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Tracy Mcgrady is the best shooting guard in the NBA and has never depended on a big guy to make life easier for him. Only this past year has T-mac been with a decent big man. We all saw how much Kobe struggled without Shaq this past year. Obviously Wade didn't do too badly without Shaq in his rookie year and the games Shaq missed due to injury but Mcgrady really has the complete package. Him having more range is why he should be ranked ahead of Wade. Tracy is the most talented guard since MJ. His only problem has been motivation and willing to work hard. However in Houston that seems to have been fixed.</div> T-Mac ain't never been out of the first round. It's what you do in the playoffs that counts, and Kobe's been there. But I think Wade has a better future than those two, especially playing with Shaq. He's the third fastest penetrator in the league (1. Iverson 2. Parker) and that's more important than range since they can't leave Shaq for him at the basket. The reason the "stacked" team will win it all this time is because DWade won't do what Kobe did against Detroit in 2004. They'll play team ball because everybody they've got can produce against any opponent. Then Wade will be ranked ahead of Ballhog#8 forever.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigMoneyMo:</div><div class="quote_post">T-Mac ain't never been out of the first round. It's what you do in the playoffs that counts, and Kobe's been there. But I think Wade has a better future than those two, especially playing with Shaq. He's the third fastest penetrator in the league (1. Iverson 2. Parker) and that's more important than range since they can't leave Shaq for him at the basket. The reason the "stacked" team will win it all this time is because DWade won't do what Kobe did against Detroit in 2004. They'll play team ball because everybody they've got can produce against any opponent. Then Wade will be ranked ahead of Ballhog#8 forever. </div> Tracy Mcgrady has never been in a playoff series where his team was suppose to win the series. He has always been on teams where they were the lower seed and not expected to win. Yes It is what you do in the playoffs and T-mac is a career 30 points per game scorer to go along with 7 boards and 6 assists per game and has had plenty of 40 point games during that time. The rest of his team-mates just weren't up to standard. Even this past year, Dallas were expected to win. Now T-mac has a better roster around him the Rockets should have no problem going deep into the playoffs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Tracy Mcgrady has never been in a playoff series where his team was suppose to win the series. He has always been on teams where they were the lower seed and not expected to win. Yes It is what you do in the playoffs and T-mac is a career 30 points per game scorer to go along with 7 boards and 6 assists per game and has had plenty of 40 point games during that time. The rest of his team-mates just weren't up to standard. Even this past year, Dallas were expected to win. Now T-mac has a better roster around him the Rockets should have no problem going deep into the playoffs.</div> T-Mac definately should have made it into the second round last year. best sgs 1.Kobe 2.T-Mac 3.Ray Allen
His team blew a 2-0 lead but Dallas were the better overall team and in a 7 game series. The better team normally wins. Mcgrady did It all in that series but certain guys on his team didn't show up consistantly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting calartnick:</div><div class="quote_post">T-Mac definately should have made it into the second round last year. best sgs 1.Kobe 2.T-Mac 3.Ray Allen</div> ummmmm whoever is saying that the rockets should have won the series: 1) they were the underdog 2) how is dallas the "sleeper" in the west gonna let them go 2-0 3) dallas had a much better roster last year 4) if we had juwan howard it wouldnt have even gone to 6 cuz rockets would have advanced in 5 Tracy mcgrady is the best SG in the league. The only person i see doing better than him is kobe and its obvious that this writer is truly a dumbass because he didnt even include paul pierce in that listing and put kobe at third because of his attitude (read the caption of the picture). WTF is that, you dont judge a persons bball skill based on attitude.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Tracy Mcgrady has never been in a playoff series where his team was suppose to win the series. He has always been on teams where they were the lower seed and not expected to win. Yes It is what you do in the playoffs and T-mac is a career 30 points per game scorer to go along with 7 boards and 6 assists per game and has had plenty of 40 point games during that time. The rest of his team-mates just weren't up to standard. Even this past year, Dallas were expected to win. Now T-mac has a better roster around him the Rockets should have no problem going deep into the playoffs.</div> A couple of years ago they where 3-1 against the Pistons and managed to lose. I think that year they were supposed to win that series.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">best shooting guard in the NBA is Allen Iverson no questions asked.</div> Actually, a lot of questions could be asked. Iverson also made the move to PG last season, so he's not a SG at the moment. 1) Kobe 2) Tmac 3) Wade 4) Vince 5) Allen 6) Pierce 7) Manu 8) Hughes 9) J-Rich 10) Redd I don't want to write much again because I've seen this 3 times, but that's how it is. Wade can move up to being the best depending on his showing, and Tmac can move above Kobe depending on how he does this coming season in comparison. Kobe is the most talented, but on the bottom in terms of being a good team player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">ummmmm whoever is saying that the rockets should have won the series: 1) they were the underdog 2) how is dallas the "sleeper" in the west gonna let them go 2-0 3) dallas had a much better roster last year 4) if we had juwan howard it wouldnt have even gone to 6 cuz rockets would have advanced in 5 Tracy mcgrady is the best SG in the league. The only person i see doing better than him is kobe and its obvious that this writer is truly a dumbass because he didnt even include paul pierce in that listing and put kobe at third because of his attitude (read the caption of the picture). WTF is that, you dont judge a persons bball skill based on attitude.</div> when houston went up 2-0 on dallas then came home, they should have closed out that series, you should know that. And i didn't say it was T-macs fault, i was just simply saying, he should have been in the second round last year. and i put kobe first, t-mac second, ray allen third, so dont call me a dumbass please, considering you couldn't even read my post. Ray allen is definately a better shooting guard then paul pierce, at least at this juncture in their careers. ray allen was an MVP candidate last year, and paul pierce is on the trade block.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BobbyEscobar:</div><div class="quote_post">A couple of years ago they where 3-1 against the Pistons and managed to lose. I think that year they were supposed to win that serious.</div> Are you serious? the Pistons won 50 games and were the 2nd seed that year. How exactly was T-mac suppose to win that series? his team weren't expected to win more than 1 game but they took the Pistons to the limit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you serious? the Pistons won 50 games and were the 2nd seed that year. How exactly was T-mac suppose to win that series? his team weren't expected to win more than 1 game but they took the Pistons to the limit. </div> The Pistons were the first seed actually...and how many times does an 8th seed beat a first seed? It happened ONCE. Usually the 8th seed is expected to be swept in 4. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">4) if we had Juwan Howard it wouldnt have even gone to 6 cuz rockets would have advanced in 5</div> I agree with that...we actually could have swept the Mavs if it weren't for the 2 amazing 20-0 and 15-5 runs. And game 5 was one messed up game that the Mavs won by some uncanny luck. (Yao missed 5 free throws in a row, Finely wasn't called for out of bounds.) It was all dumb luck.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting calartnick:</div><div class="quote_post">when houston went up 2-0 on dallas then came home, they should have closed out that series, you should know that. And i didn't say it was T-macs fault, i was just simply saying, he should have been in the second round last year. and i put kobe first, t-mac second, ray allen third, so dont call me a dumbass please, considering you couldn't even read my post. </div> yaa srry if i wasnt being clear i was calling the writer of the article a dumbass. not you and i put kobe 1 and tmac 2 also
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">yaa srry if i wasnt being clear i was calling the writer of the article a dumbass. not you and i put kobe 1 and tmac 2 also</div> ooooh im sorry, new the forum, wanted to make sure the new kid didnt get ganged up on
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you serious? the Pistons won 50 games and were the 2nd seed that year. How exactly was T-mac suppose to win that series? his team weren't expected to win more than 1 game but they took the Pistons to the limit.</div> I guess I was the only one expecting them to win.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">5. Vince Carter, New Jersey Nets Ht./Wt. 6-6, 220 Numbers: 24.5 pts., 5.2 reb., 4.2 ast. There is still Vinsanity to reckon with, but the difference is in the definition. No longer is his talent what keeps fans in awe, but the contradiction of his great play to his frequent disappearing acts. He was outstanding down the stretch last season to get the Nets into the playoffs. Now in Year Two we'll find out how deep his commitment is. Plenty of people still need to be convinced. </div> Wow, I never thought VC would be so high up there.
choke <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Tracy Mcgrady has never been in a playoff series where his team was suppose to win the series. He has always been on teams where they were the lower seed and not expected to win. Yes It is what you do in the playoffs and T-mac is a career 30 points per game scorer to go along with 7 boards and 6 assists per game and has had plenty of 40 point games during that time. The rest of his team-mates just weren't up to standard. Even this past year, Dallas were expected to win. Now T-mac has a better roster around him the Rockets should have no problem going deep into the playoffs.</div> The Rockets ain't going nowhere because T-Mac and Yao are both chokers in the playoffs. Up 2-0 and 3-1 and you lose both times. I gotta go get a drink of water; I'm having trouble breathing!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, a lot of questions could be asked. Iverson also made the move to PG last season, so he's not a SG at the moment. 1) Kobe 2) Tmac 3) Wade 4) Vince 5) Allen 6) Pierce 7) Manu 8) Hughes 9) J-Rich 10) Redd I don't want to write much again because I've seen this 3 times, but that's how it is. Wade can move up to being the best depending on his showing, and Tmac can move above Kobe depending on how he does this coming season in comparison. Kobe is the most talented, but on the bottom in terms of being a good team player.</div> I'm a Wade fan but I do not think the order in the article is right not just yet. Maybe in near future, Wade can top T-Mac and Kobe but right now i would put the same order as above
Wade is amazing and one day he can become the best shooting guard in the league but right now hes at the top but now number 1
