I'm afraid that if Duncan doesn't injure this season the champion may be San Antonio again.They are terrible.Parker and manu will be better.Bowen and Tim can beat any player.So every fans of Houston and Dallas,let's hope Tim injured!HA HA.It's only a trick,don't care it all the Spurs' fan.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">kevin garnett (this guy will not get as injured as duncan does, is more effienct and consistent, better rebounding and pts, assists , and steals. Duncan just had the fortune of being drafted by a team thats smart and a team that had david robinson to mentor him)</div> KG is a STATS guy not a real winner. Garnett was stuck in the first round for 7 straight years. If you are the best PF ever you should be at least getting to the conference finals most years. Duncan has always been on a team with just good role players. No stars, not other go to guy's. He makes guys around him better and wins with what he has. If Duncan wanted to average 25, 13 and 5 he could but he is a team guy who would rather spread the offense around than be a stats whore. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Karl Malone (even tho i dont like him his name speaks for itself) Elvin hayes his defense <----- and his jumper is what made him great</div> WOW those are such great reasons why they are better than Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan has 3 rings, 3 finals's MVP's and two regular season MVP's. Oh and he doesn't choke in the playoffs like Malone did. He also didn't have the best point guard ever to play the game on his team like Malone did. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">sorry but i think this team is one "tim duncan injury" away from ruining their chances... also, they myt get too complacent.. </div> You can say that about any team. Any team that loses their superstar will struggle. Oh and with Pop as the Spurs coach the last thing they will get is complacent.
We'll i mean i don't really think that they have a real weakness but the only thing that they might have a problem with this year is their chemistry. Finley is going to be fighting for that job to be #1 SG and Ginobli is already it so they could get into confrentations about it, and another confrentation that they could have is the starting job for the #1 PG spot Van Exel is also going to be fighting for that spot and Parker is already it so. But when it is all said and done i still think that Tim Duncan will make everything right and they will win another NBA Finals ring.
The fact of the matter is, the Spurs are dirty and boring to watch. Them continuing to win championships is turning fans away from the game, and hurting the NBA (the last couple finals that they've been in , the ratings speak for themselves). Who wouldn't watch a Nets, Suns finals?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact of the matter is, the Spurs are dirty and boring to watch. Them continuing to win championships is turning fans away from the game, and hurting the NBA (the last couple finals that they've been in , the ratings speak for themselves). Who wouldn't watch a Nets, Suns finals?</div> I wouldnt because vince sucks
a bold statement considering its from a non-suns fan.. but, the season has a lot to offer (trades) and maybe if d nets-suns do make the finals, i hope it wud be the nets on top.. nwei, witout going far from topic, the spurs organization is really a class act. It just so happens dat marketing and also fans demand "highlight reels". And wat feeds the nba?? marketing & highlight reels, i mean fans. i kept saying to my friends how effective manu's moves are but they keep insisting how silly and unorthodox they are. i kept saying bowen is a good defender, they tell me he's a cheap shot. The idea is dat most people dont really buy into the spurs' game. Maybe if ur a guy, like the most of us, hu looks at the stats and analyze their effects on the game then u will appreciate the spurs' game. But most nba watchers want to see spectacular dunks, amazing bullet-speed passes, "on to the sidelines" blocks, dominating players (scoring 50 in a game, making NBA records) and not midrange jumpers, boxouts, freethrow shooting.. To make it short, they lack flair and the only time i really enjoyed their game was the game 6&7 just for the reason that the game was a close one. I dont really diss spurs.. I have to admit that i like parker & duncan's game.. Its just dat im too bz wit my studies & f i want to spend my time to watch nba, it wud be a game dat involves players dat are going to put up a "show". If u havent realized, its the dunks, amazing plays and the stars that make them that separates the NBA from other leagues.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldnt because vince sucks</div> That was an educated comment considering what he did for the Nets last year. You may not like VC, but he's a highlight machine, and that's what they need in the finals. The casual fans are the majority of NBA fans, and they are what make or break ratings, not hard-core fans like people on this site. Now the casual fan hates watching the Spurs, and would probably rather watch an uptempo game between the Nets and Suns, with lots of guys capable of making highlights like VC, Kidd, RJ, Nash, Stoudemire and Marion. I'll say it again...the Spurs are boaring, scrappy, and dirty. None of which appeal to the casual fan.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">That was an educated comment considering what he did for the Nets last year. You may not like VC, but he's a highlight machine, and that's what they need in the finals. The casual fans are the majority of NBA fans, and they are what make or break ratings, not hard-core fans like people on this site. Now the casual fan hates watching the Spurs, and would probably rather watch an uptempo game between the Nets and Suns, with lots of guys capable of making highlights like VC, Kidd, RJ, Nash, Stoudemire and Marion. I'll say it again...the Spurs are boaring, scrappy, and dirty. None of which appeal to the casual fan.</div> I couldnt agree more with what you are saying about the spurs but i gotta disagree with you on the nets. First of all its not realistic. Secondly, just because your having a great time on the nets bandwagon, it doesnt mean everyone else will. The pistons with they're physical defensive play and the cavs and heat with their young stars would be welcomed a lot more by casual fans than the nets. Its undenieable that fans love teams/players with heart and will rally behind them. Its also undeniable that vince carter lacks this trait. Fans want to see players who give it their all and always play their hardest.Vince does neither of those things, so he is not a fun player to watch, despite a few big plays. Maybe thats why so many more people watch the final four than the nba finals.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bryce40ww:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldnt because vince sucks</div> ur sig is something that fills me wit HATRED. not only is it ur sig but ur post is juz too far from topic. im not a moderator but if i do have the power, then i will make some disciplinary action on you. okay, ur just exercising ur ryt. Thank the heavens for not giving Bosh defects that i can pinpoint to. it seems dat u juz joined to diss vince. This is one of d reasons i dont visit the raps forum often. ur points are not also valid: not giving a damn about winning-->rallied the 2001 raps to just 2 rounds but amazing run esp. the 76ers series. rallied, if not carried, the Nets to the playoffs (even if juz edging the cavs by stats) faking injuries-->did he admit to this? if my memory serves me correctly, he havnt & ur not his doctor. giving away plays-->do u not think it was a psy-war thing. the sonics' coaching staff may have read the play but with him telling it, since it was crucial, gave them second thoughts if they really are doing the play. Okay, the raps lost but if a foul wud have been called on the drive by vince, the result wud hev been diff. Breaks of the game. not trying--> u cud say he admitted but isnt he trying to say "i didnt try ENUF"?? I can give u the "not trying" thing but the rest is false. I guess 3 to 1 is very convincing already. vince is not a worthless garbage. tell me its ur ryt to put ur sig up, but then ill tell u dat its also my ryt to tell wat i hev in mind.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting subrock:</div><div class="quote_post">By this time, most of you should know that Michael Finley has signed with the San Antonio Spurs. Seriously, how ridiculously good is the SA roster right now? There is absolutely no holes in their rotation from PG down to the C. They have retained their champonship roster from last year, but now they will be able to bring in Michael Finley AND Nick Van Exel off the bench!! Those two can still light it up with the best, and would probablly more effective now as bench players in their age. Seriously, this is almost unfair to all other teams.</div> Yep I agree, just the other day I went over their roster after the 2 latest signings, and I cannot see one player I wouldnt want on my team, or one player thats considered 'crap'. San Antonio will win it all again next year, i'm even going to go out on a limb and say a 70 win season might be in order here.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bryce40ww:</div><div class="quote_post">I couldnt agree more with what you are saying about the spurs but i gotta disagree with you on the nets. First of all its not realistic. Secondly, just because your having a great time on the nets bandwagon, it doesnt mean everyone else will. The pistons with they're physical defensive play and the cavs and heat with their young stars would be welcomed a lot more by casual fans than the nets. Its undenieable that fans love teams/players with heart and will rally behind them. Its also undeniable that vince carter lacks this trait. Fans want to see players who give it their all and always play their hardest.Vince does neither of those things, so he is not a fun player to watch, despite a few big plays. Maybe thats why so many more people watch the final four than the nba finals.</div> Why is it that you turn every thread into an "I hate Vince" thread?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Twolvefan13:</div><div class="quote_post">We'll i mean i don't really think that they have a real weakness but the only thing that they might have a problem with this year is their chemistry. Finley is going to be fighting for that job to be #1 SG and Ginobli is already it so they could get into confrentations about it, and another confrentation that they could have is the starting job for the #1 PG spot Van Exel is also going to be fighting for that spot and Parker is already it so. But when it is all said and done i still think that Tim Duncan will make everything right and they will win another NBA Finals ring.</div> No offense bro, but that post is just a hopeful shot at the Spurs backed by nothing. There is no position battle going on in San Antonio. The starters are Parker, Manu, Bowen, Duncan, and Nazr, period !! Finley was told before he came here, as was Van Exel, that starting was not an option. If starting is what was important to them this was not the place for them. They were told that upfront by Popovich, because Pop understands that promising one thing and delivering another will only piss off the player and create problems later. Michael Finley discussed how he is looking forward to coming off the bench and how that is what he was told he would do. Not only that, but Finley also stated that he is not here to mess with anything or create any kind of "where's my minutes" controversy. He talked about how the Spurs already won the Championship without him and how he is here to merely be a contributor for a team that has already proven they know what they are doing. HE CAME HERE TO GET A RING, PERIOD. As far as Van Exel is concerned, they have already discussed how they are not going to give Van Exel big minutes during the regular season, in an effort to save his legs and knees for the playoffs. There will be games when the inconsistent Parker will be benched late in games in favor of Van Exel, but Van Exel is not going to start unless Parker gets hurt. They did not bring these guys in to San Antonio by telling them that they have a shot at starting. Quite the contrary, they made it clear that they would NOT start. Now, all that being said, I would be remissed if I did not mention that the Spurs do have a history of switching Manu to the bench mid-season. The reason they do this is not to demote Manu, but to spark the other player (Barry, Turkoglu) that might not play as well off the bench. Manu is capable of coming off the bench and being just as effective as he would be starting. Not only that, but he provides the energy and "spark" off the bench if the team is lagging. If you remember last years playoffs he dominated quite a few playoff games after coming in off the bench, this was only done because Barry was more effective and confident when he started the game and got into the action early. The Spurs are not like most other teams. They do not worry about trivial things like who starts and who has the better shoe deal. Ginobili has earned the starting spot and will not lose it by demotion. If they do put Finley or Barry into the starting lineup, it will be because the Spurs feel it is best for the team and the selfless Ginobili will do what is best for the team (just like each of the last two years). If you would like to see and hear some info to back up what I am saying here ya go...... Van Exel signs "I think he's comfortable with however Pop wants to play him," Dutt said. "There will be nights when he plays a lot, and some nights he won't play at all. He's fine with that." Van Exels Agent (Which Van Exel later said the same thing) Finley signs On that page at the top, are links to the video and audio to the entire 20 minute press conference.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">RC Buford and Gregg Popovic know what they're doing. That's a clinic of how to build a championship contender.</div> the spurs are the new england patriots of the NBA...
boring? Anyone who thinks the Spurs are boring, i have to wonder if they are a basketball fan at all. maybe you would rather watch Josh Smith at a dunk contest, that looks cool too, but the Spurs are fun as hell to watch in my opinion. And I believe when all is said and done, Tim Duncan may be regarded as the 2nd best player of alltime behind Jordan. i.e. better than Shaq.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post"> Oh and he doesn't choke in the playoffs like Malone did. </div> so those missed free throws in two games and that missed tap in for game winner wasn't choking. OO that makes sense
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">KG is a STATS guy not a real winner. Garnett was stuck in the first round for 7 straight years. If you are the best PF ever you should be at least getting to the conference finals most years. Duncan has always been on a team with just good role players. No stars, not other go to guy's. He makes guys around him better and wins with what he has. If Duncan wanted to average 25, 13 and 5 he could but he is a team guy who would rather spread the offense around than be a stats whore. WOW those are such great reasons why they are better than Tim Duncan. </div> KG not a real winner? He's never had a real team around him while Duncan's championship teams are always loaded with talent Like David Robinson, Ginobli. Not to take anything away from Duncan but he has definately had more players around him. Kg is a better player than Duncan because he is more versatile. Sure Duncan can back you down and hit that sweet shot off the backboard, but KG can do that and more. He is an athletic freak and can even hit the 3 sometimes. His jump shot is very good for someone his size. He can do everything Duncan does and more. Duncan is definately number 2 though. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldnt because vince sucks</div> Wow what an intelectual post. Just cause your a bitter fan doesn't mean you have to bash a former player. I would definately watch that series because it would be absolutely entertaining and I'm sure the NBA would love that because it would boost ratings.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">so those missed free throws in two games and that missed tap in for game winner wasn't choking. OO that makes sense</div> Yes he missed FT's but why don't you mention the big time shots he makes when It counts? didn't you watch game 7 of the finals? his dominance in the 3rd and 4th's quarters was the difference why the Spurs came back from 12 points down to win the NBA title. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">KG not a real winner? He's never had a real team around him while Duncan's championship teams are always loaded with talent Like David Robinson, Ginobli.</div> David in the 2nd championships at the end of his career and had many injury problems that year. He wasn't a big factor during that time and Manu was a rookie. Duncan never had an all-star playing beside him in his first two championship seasons. Manu was an all-star this year. Thats the only time he had a guy who put up very good numbers. The Spurs are focused on team ball ahead of everything else and It all starts with Duncan. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Not to take anything away from Duncan but he has definately had more players around him</div> Thats highly debatable. Talent wise there hasn't been much of a gap. KG has had guys who can play and even had Wally who was an all-star. Cassell and Spree back then were all-star quailty players. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Kg is a better player than Duncan because he is more versatile. Sure Duncan can back you down and hit that sweet shot off the backboard, but KG can do that and more</div> KG can fill the stats sheet but he isn't anywhere near the post player that Duncan is nor does he make guys around him better like Timmy does. Would Duncan of failed to make the playoffs? hell no. No matter who the guys he has around him he will make teams win. He is simply a winner who knows what It takes to get the job done. If Duncan wanted to he could easily average 25, 14 and 5 along with 3 or 4 blocks. He however is more focused on team ball and spreading It around so everyone on the floor gets equal chances to be involved. So no KG doesn't do everything Duncan can do and more. Mainly because he has no real post game and is not strong enough to back guys down game in, game out.
Well you have to say the spurs are the favorites, because they are the champs, but it's not like they're invincible either.
I wonder why this wasn't moved to the Spurs board but my thread was moved to the Miami board. I think the Mods are haters or Laker fans.
