<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The team has re-signed guards DerMarr Johnson and Greg Buckner and have signed guard Earl Watson. Johnson and Buckner were both part-time starters for the Nuggets last season. Johnson averaged 7.1 points in 17 minutes per game, while Buckner got 6.2 points in 22 minutes per game in 2004-05. Earl Watson averaged a career-best 7.7 points and 4.5 assists for the Grizzlies last season. Watson is the fourth player to leave Memphis via free agency or sign and trade this summer. The Grizzlies revamped lineup will be without Watson, Bonzi Wells, Jason Williams and Stromile Swift next season. </div> Source Three guards off the free agent market, just like that. This gives the Nuggets 7 guards heading into pre-season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> Source Three guards off the free agent market, just like that. This gives the Nuggets 7 guards heading into pre-season.</div> Wow, didn't think Earl Watson would sign with Denver. Seven guards altogther, wow.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Denver is stacked. Probably the best bench in the NBA.</div> Not even close. Granted they have a few nice pieces but nothing on that bench scares you when they come into the game. This Watson signing makes no sense at all unless they are moving Boykins or Miller. If they don't trade either one. Kiki has made a huge mistake.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Not even close. Granted they have a few nice pieces but nothing on that bench scares you when they come into the game. This Watson signing makes no sense at all unless they are moving Boykins or Miller. If they don't trade either one. Kiki has made a huge mistake.</div> I agree, there has to be a trade in the works for Andre Miller. The biggest need to fill this summer and during the draft was adding a perimeter threat. So far the Nuggets have not accomplished this. They will have Voshon Lenard back, but at this point in his career, he's not going to give you 30+ quality minutes. He's basically a role player, and if he gets injured again, the Nuggets don't have anyone else. Watson adds redundancy to the backcourt, and I'm surprised he agreed to play here. He left the Grizzlies, because he wanted a chance to start, maybe he signed knowing Miller is on his way out? The Magic and Nuggets almost completed a deal last year involving Miller and Francis. However, the Magic no longer need a PG with Jameer Nelson, Travis Diener, and Keyon Dooling now on the roster. I think some trade scenarios could be worked out with Cleveland, New York, or Atlanta. Andre Miller + Franciso Elson for Al Harrington & Salim Stoudamire? Andre Miller + Linas Kleiza for Luke Jackson & Drew Gooden?
i dont know if it'll work out, but what about giving u guys rafer and we get andre, that way earl watson gets to start and maybe throw in a couple of addins.. i dont know if it would work... but it is just my guess seein as you guys are stacked with guards and toronto stacked with forwards. lol. i'll try realgm to see if anything is possible but i doubt it'd happen in real life.
Man I thought the Rockets had too many guards, which they do, I think its 8 on their roster. If Miller is available he would be a good fit for Houston though and David Wesley sounds like what Denver is looking for. Rockets need a pure point guard that can efficiently run an offense now full of potential. Denver is looking for a 2 guard that can shoot. Wesley is a streaky shooter that had some unbeleivable streaks where it seemed he couldnt miss, and though undersized he is a very good perimeter defender. Any Nugget fans have an opinion Not saying a trade would be one for one, just as far as Wesley as a Nugget. I wouldnt give up Mike James if I were the Rockets, but if the Watson signing makes Miller available I would like to see Houston try to put a trade together.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Not even close. Granted they have a few nice pieces but nothing on that bench scares you when they come into the game. This Watson signing makes no sense at all unless they are moving Boykins or Miller. If they don't trade either one. Kiki has made a huge mistake.</div> I don't see another team except for maybe Dallas or Memphis that has a better bench.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see another team except for maybe Dallas or Memphis that has a better bench</div> how about San Antonio? Michael Finley, Nick Van Exel, Brent Barry, Nazr Mohammed and Udrih seems like a an amazing bench.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see another team except for maybe Dallas or Memphis that has a better bench.</div> Most of Memphis's bench have gone. The Spurs have by far the best bench in the NBA. Not really worth debating. The Spurs first guy off the bench would still start on many NBA teams. NVE is still a very good clutch shooter and If Bones gets his act togeather can still be a quailty shooter in limited minutes. And I havn't even began to talk about Oberto. One of the best big men that europe has seen the past 5 years. Oh and thats there big shot Rob guy. The one who has won so many rings he has lost count.
Good suggestions on possible trades Shapecity. You mentioned NY possibly, but no trade scenario. How bout this one... Miller/Nene for Q/Sweetney? I know Q just got there, but Nene and Miller would be great additions to NY, at positions the desperately need help. And Q is perfect for what Denver needs. A win/win for both teams.
Lol, had a total brainfart and forgot Finley signed with San Antonio. Still I think Denver has a top 3-5 bench.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Most of Memphis's bench have gone.</div> Memphis still has a very solid bench though. You've got Bobby Jackson (or Damon Stoudamire), Eddie Jones, Dahntay Jones, Brian Cardinal, and Hakim Warrick. I'd still take that over the Nuggets bench.
i dont know why everyone wants to trade andre miller if anything i would want them to trade watson to get a shooter
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BookerT:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont know why everyone wants to trade andre miller if anything i would want them to trade watson to get a shooter</div> I'm sure they didn't sign Earl Watson so they can trade him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BookerT:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont know why everyone wants to trade andre miller if anything i would want them to trade watson to get a shooter</div> Andre Miller is a me first PG, and so Is Boykins. If Miller were more interested in getting Carmelo into a flow the team would be much better. Unfortunately Miller and Melo hate each other, and because of that Miller is selfish with the ball. Denver needs to ship him out and get some shooting help on the perimeter.
dre isnt me first.. tell me how you can average 10.9 assists per game with the garbage cavaliers before they got lebron.. i dunno, but im not buyin into this whole trade Andre thing and who said andre and carmelo hate each other?
Trust Me From the Cuse, went to school there during the Carmelo reign, and I'm friends with several people he is still in contact with. Him and Miller do not get along. Plus, dont trust Miller's numbers, he'll always get his assists, but that is often misleading as on every team he has been on, he has always had the ball, as the only ballhandler on the floor. Because of that his assist numbers are always high, but he'll always look to get his little midrange shot off first. Plus, look at the playoffs last year. He averaged 13 shots a game while the two players who should have been getting the most looks, Melo and K-Mart got 16 & 12 respectively. Those numbers should have been more like 10 for Miller and 20 and 15 for Melo and K-Mart. However, both Miller and Boykins tried to do way to much. Millers assists also went from 7 to a dismal 5 in the playoffs. Miller had a great game 1 of the playoffs and got a big head, therefore crushing any chance Denver had of making that series competitive. <font size="1"><font color="Red">*It's good to have another NCAA fan on the board, but please don't double post. If you want to add something to what you said earlier, there's an edit button. - VC</font></font>
Plus, look at the playoffs last year. He averaged 13 shots a game while the two players who should have been getting the most looks, Melo and K-Mart got 16 & 12 respectively. Those numbers should have been more like 10 for Miller and 20 and 15 for Melo and K-Mart. However, both Miller and Boykins tried to do way to much. Millers assists also went from 7 to a dismal 5 in the playoffs. Miller had a great game 1 of the playoffs and got a big head, therefore crushing any chance Denver had of making that series competitive.
