Something you should know about Vick.......

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  1. Cadillac

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    As everyone know, the media madness over Vick s ability to scramble as labeled him as a reinventer of the quarterback position. But in case you didn t know, Randall Cunningham was the first true great scrambling quarterback in the NFL. So Vick, take a back seat to Randall.
     
  2. porky88

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cadillac)</div><div class='quotemain'>As everyone know, the media madness over Vick s ability to scramble as labeled him as a reinventer of the quarterback position. But in case you didn t know, Randall Cunningham was the first true great scrambling quarterback in the NFL. So Vick, take a back seat to Randall.</div>

    Randall may have been the first but he is not the best. Vick is the best scrambler in football. No arguement there but he Randall had a way better arm and Vick needs to work on his passing skills whether its him or the recievers Vick needs to improve his passing skills to be the QB the Falcons need to take the next step. One thing has going for him which is why I don't consider him a bad QB like most think is his high winning pct as a starter.
     
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    Nah, I think tarkenton was best scrambler. He threw the ball better than either of them after he scrambled
     
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    Tarkenton was one of the first scrambler QB's, not Cunningham. The scrambler QB has been around for a while (Elway? Probably the best mobile QB of all time). Cunningham was just good at scrambling, which sometimes means that he lacked the skills to find the open receivers or make the good passes like a Marino could do...
     
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    uh...until micheal vick learns how to throw...randall cunningham still overshadows him...
     
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    Wait let me throw up did someone refer to john elway as the best Scrambling qb?Hands down it was tarkenton or Cunningham
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cadillac)</div><div class='quotemain'>As everyone know, the media madness over Vick s ability to scramble as labeled him as a reinventer of the quarterback position. But in case you didn t know, Randall Cunningham was the first true great scrambling quarterback in the NFL. So Vick, take a back seat to Randall.</div>

    Randall may have been the first but he is not the best. Vick is the best scrambler in football. No arguement there but he Randall had a way better arm and Vick needs to work on his passing skills whether its him or the recievers Vick needs to improve his passing skills to be the QB the Falcons need to take the next step. One thing has going for him which is why I don't consider him a bad QB like most think is his high winning pct as a starter.</div>

    One of the reasons that a lot of us don't agree with Porky is that we believe that the winning pct belongs to the Falcons and not to Michael Vick. The TRUTH is that the Falcons changed defensive schemes and played much better last year than the year before. Michael Vick doesn't play defense or special teams. Jay Fiedler had as good a record as Michael Vick over his first couple of years with the Dolphins, but the Dolphins were winning despite Fiedler and not because of him. For someone who claims to not pay attention to statistics, Porky keeps hanging on to that stat like Vladimir Putin holds on to Super Bowl rings.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cadillac)</div><div class='quotemain'>As everyone know, the media madness over Vick s ability to scramble as labeled him as a reinventer of the quarterback position. But in case you didn t know, Randall Cunningham was the first true great scrambling quarterback in the NFL. So Vick, take a back seat to Randall.</div>

    Randall may have been the first but he is not the best. Vick is the best scrambler in football. No arguement there but he Randall had a way better arm and Vick needs to work on his passing skills whether its him or the recievers Vick needs to improve his passing skills to be the QB the Falcons need to take the next step. One thing has going for him which is why I don't consider him a bad QB like most think is his high winning pct as a starter.</div>

    One of the reasons that a lot of us don't agree with Porky is that we believe that the winning pct belongs to the Falcons and not to Michael Vick. The TRUTH is that the Falcons changed defensive schemes and played much better last year than the year before. Michael Vick doesn't play defense or special teams. Jay Fiedler had as good a record as Michael Vick over his first couple of years with the Dolphins, but the Dolphins were winning despite Fiedler and not because of him. For someone who claims to not pay attention to statistics, Porky keeps hanging on to that stat like Vladimir Putin holds on to Super Bowl rings.</div>


    enough of this. I don't care. I don't like the Falcons but until Mike Vick fails to make the playoffs as a a starter I think its foolish talk to consider starting Matt Schaub and moving Vick to HB.
     
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    Okay Porky, I'll shut up about it if you shut up about it. But, don't act like I should shut up and you don't have to shut up and I won't accuse you of acting like I should shut up while you don't have to shut up and I won't act like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up and you won't accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up. If you do act like I have to shut up while you don't have to shut up or accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up, I'm going to tell Vikingfan. So there.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Okay Porky, I'll shut up about it if you shut up about it. But, don't act like I should shut up and you don't have to shut up and I won't accuse you of acting like I should shut up while you don't have to shut up and I won't act like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up and you won't accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up. If you do act like I have to shut up while you don't have to shut up or accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up, I'm going to tell Vikingfan. So there.</div>

    I think I lost some brain cells reading that....
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Okay Porky, I'll shut up about it if you shut up about it. But, don't act like I should shut up and you don't have to shut up and I won't accuse you of acting like I should shut up while you don't have to shut up and I won't act like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up and you won't accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up. If you do act like I have to shut up while you don't have to shut up or accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up, I'm going to tell Vikingfan. So there.</div>

    I think I lost some brain cells reading that....</div>


    I'm taking his advice and shutting up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Okay Porky, I'll shut up about it if you shut up about it. But, don't act like I should shut up and you don't have to shut up and I won't accuse you of acting like I should shut up while you don't have to shut up and I won't act like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up and you won't accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up. If you do act like I have to shut up while you don't have to shut up or accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up, I'm going to tell Vikingfan. So there.</div>

    stuff like that makes you seem like someone i know on another forum. panthers knows who I am talking about. cough livin cough. I never told you to shut up about it just not to start it with me. I am a packers fan I could care less if Vick throws 28 Td's or 28 picks and how good they do. you seem to want to get into it a lot and thats not me. Go talk to TKO about the Bills 12-4 season and Hall of Famers on that team I have had enough of Mike Vick talk because quite frankly I don't care.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Okay Porky, I'll shut up about it if you shut up about it. But, don't act like I should shut up and you don't have to shut up and I won't accuse you of acting like I should shut up while you don't have to shut up and I won't act like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up and you won't accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up. If you do act like I have to shut up while you don't have to shut up or accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up, I'm going to tell Vikingfan. So there.</div>

    I hope most of you have better maturity than that. WOW
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BENGALSFREAK144)</div><div class='quotemain'>uh...until micheal vick learns how to throw...randall cunningham still overshadows him...</div>

    well put. Vick has a chance to become the best scrambler of all time and he probably will with his legs but he needs to learn how to throw to overtake Randall Cunningham and be considered an elite QB in the NFL. Other than that he is Kick Returner playing QB.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Okay Porky, I'll shut up about it if you shut up about it. But, don't act like I should shut up and you don't have to shut up and I won't accuse you of acting like I should shut up while you don't have to shut up and I won't act like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up and you won't accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up. If you do act like I have to shut up while you don't have to shut up or accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up, I'm going to tell Vikingfan. So there.</div>

    I hope most of you have better maturity than that. WOW</div>

    He was giving porky shit because Porky and TKO had a brief no you shut up contest.....in another discussion
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BENGALSFREAK144)</div><div class='quotemain'>uh...until micheal vick learns how to throw...randall cunningham still overshadows him...</div>

    well put. Vick has a chance to become the best scrambler of all time and he probably will with his legs but he needs to learn how to throw to overtake Randall Cunningham and be considered an elite QB in the NFL. Other than that he is Kick Returner playing QB.</div>

    Vick a KR playing QB, there's one I haven't heard before. [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>Okay Porky, I'll shut up about it if you shut up about it. But, don't act like I should shut up and you don't have to shut up and I won't accuse you of acting like I should shut up while you don't have to shut up and I won't act like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up and you won't accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up. If you do act like I have to shut up while you don't have to shut up or accuse me of acting like you should shut up while I don't have to shut up, I'm going to tell Vikingfan. So there.</div>

    I hope most of you have better maturity than that. WOW</div>

    He was giving porky shit because Porky and TKO had a brief no you shut up contest.....in another discussion</div>

    so this forum is about telling people to shut up. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    weird either way he sounded like a 8 year old and I am sure the others did as well but no reason to tell each other to shut up over the net and then post it on the other thread. That almost makes me want to leave. I am here to talk about the Ravens and football not a shut up war.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BENGALSFREAK144)</div><div class='quotemain'>uh...until micheal vick learns how to throw...randall cunningham still overshadows him...</div>

    well put. Vick has a chance to become the best scrambler of all time and he probably will with his legs but he needs to learn how to throw to overtake Randall Cunningham and be considered an elite QB in the NFL. Other than that he is Kick Returner playing QB.</div>

    Vick a KR playing QB, there's one I haven't heard before. [​IMG]

    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/J-player/Haterade.gif</div>


    Don't tell me he don't remind you of Daunte Hall a bit.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pats37)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    I hope most of you have better maturity than that. WOW</div>

    He was giving porky shit because Porky and TKO had a brief no you shut up contest.....in another discussion</div>

    so this forum is about telling people to shut up. [​IMG] [​IMG]

    weird either way he sounded like a 8 year old and I am sure the others did as well but no reason to tell each other to shut up over the net and then post it on the other thread. That almost makes me want to leave. I am here to talk about the Ravens and football not a shut up war.</div>


    Stick around...it was an isolated incident and DD who has been here a while and is very serious on 99.9% of his posts was just making light of it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JustBry07)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BRavens)</div><div class='quotemain'>

    well put. Vick has a chance to become the best scrambler of all time and he probably will with his legs but he needs to learn how to throw to overtake Randall Cunningham and be considered an elite QB in the NFL. Other than that he is Kick Returner playing QB.</div>

    Vick a KR playing QB, there's one I haven't heard before. [​IMG]

    http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y76/J-player/Haterade.gif</div>


    Don't tell me he don't remind you of Daunte Hall a bit.</div>

    Vick has great running ability like Hall does. I'm still holding out hope that Vick will improve his passing though, which I'm pretty sure he will. Then hopefully the "Vick should be a RB or KR" comments will come to an end, and the haters will finally be silenced. [​IMG]
     

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