Grading Rocket's Offseason

i saw this in the king's forum so i wanted to know what every1 thouht of rockets

id give us an A- unless the trade away some guards then it is an A

 

I'd give us a B+. What we got was great, but compared to what we could have gotten, we don't deserve an A. Drafting Head was somewhat of a mystical move, especially when the point guard crop still doesn't have a spot for him and when the pick would have been better used on a PF. Signing Swift was a good move considering the amount of money we paid for him, but the fact that someone like Shareef Abdur-Rahim or Donyell Marshall could have been signed doesn't make the deal sound so great; especially with Swift's known work ethic and inconsistency. Getting Anderson was great, but when you think that Finley snubbed us, the deal doesn't look the best either. That being said, we did what we could and definitely improved the team. Signing Yao to the extension and bringing Deke back were huge.

 

GRADE: A
We had big issues that needed to be addressed at the end of last season, Youth, speed, and athletism. We already had enough power at Center. But lacked quickness and athletism at PF, SG, and PG. The first priority, atleast to me was PF. But Carroll Dawson drafted Head, which I didn't understand at the time. Next we signed Swift, which made the Head pick make sense. Carroll Dawson drafted a highflying PG, and signed a PF that can jump out the gym. Next, we needed somebody that can fill the wing next to Tmac. Then come DA. Perfect! Our bench is still a little old, but with the newcomers Baxter and Glover, we have had a perfect offseason. The only flaw is we still have Ward, Baker, and Moochie. They might be clogging up space for the younger guys.

 

Pardon me, but if we really have gotten Baxter and Glover, then I'd assume that two of the useless trio you mentioend should be gone by now. Anyways, Ward, Moochie and Baker wouldn't have played much anyways; all they'd have taken up are roster spots. Besides, I don't think Baxter and Glover will get many minutes, because of the depth already ahead of them.

 

B-

You should have traded Yao....Let me finish....traded Yao for a big impact player while Yao still has some value, people will start to realise he is a bit of a flop and only 18 and 8 when u could do a trade for a 20 and 10 young player (i know yao is young but he wont develop into a monster, whether u like it or not). Yao is good, but will only improve if he stops being such a weak <font color="red">profanity edited</font>, which I dont see happening. Other moves were good though.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">B-

You should have traded Yao....Let me finish....traded Yao for a big impact player while Yao still has some value, people will start to realise he is a bit of a flop and only 18 and 8 when u could do a trade for a 20 and 10 young player (i know yao is young but he wont develop into a monster, whether u like it or not). Yao is good, but will only improve if he stops being such a weak profanity edited, which I dont see happening. Other moves were good though.</div>
Woah, let me take a breather here first. Ok. Yao has improved every year since he has been in the league and his efficiency rating is off the charts. If he is given the minutes, he's definitely capable of getting a 20 and 10 statline. He might not be a monster, but Yao will be a great player. He has finesse and skills unlike a brute O'Neal. Who could we have traded Yao for and not get raped in the deal? Whenever you trade a star like Yao, you definitely won't get the same skills and star power in return.

So far, I'll give us an A-. We resigned Mutumbo and Barry, two very important key players for us last year to cheap deals. Plus, we snagged Swift for cheaper than expected while also signing Anderson to a very nice deal. Although I'd call it a questionable move, we got a quality rookie in Head that could potentially develop into a good guard for us. But the big deal for me was giving Yao that extension. It ensures that the core for Houston is safe with McGrady, Yao, and Swift being signed to long term deals. There's no doubt that our lineup has improved compared to last year.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">B-

You should have traded Yao....Let me finish....traded Yao for a big impact player while Yao still has some value, people will start to realise he is a bit of a flop and only 18 and 8 when u could do a trade for a 20 and 10 young player (i know yao is young but he wont develop into a monster, whether u like it or not). Yao is good, but will only improve if he stops being such a weak <font color="red">profanity edited</font>, which I dont see happening. Other moves were good though.</div>


wow obviously u dont know what impact yao brings
let me start:
1)hes a presence in the paint
2)he attracts players to play along side him ex. tmac last season
3)big men are hard to find these days yao is ten times better than brad miller
and there is only 3 centers in the league better than yao and those are shaq ben wallace and amare
4)yao might not be strong but hes in his third year coming from a country where it was disrespectful to dunk on some1 and 18-8 for a guy like taht is pretty dam good
5) major publicity to the rockets
6)he is so tall and so hard to get around for inside players that he can make other center's numbers go down for that game shaq avg 26.7 pts in his career. against shaq last year avg 20.1 and career 17.4 rebounding last year 9.8 while career 8.5. Ben wallace is the only other center that can do a better job. Yao held shaq to 15 pts last season
7) and even if we trade him who would we get thats better at his position only person i see is trading for KG which i highly doubt minnesota would do

 

I giv u guys an A-. You adressed a need at PF by signing Stro, and got a good PG in DA. I think you improved a lot and will contend for the West.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">B-

You should have traded Yao....Let me finish....traded Yao for a big impact player while Yao still has some value, people will start to realise he is a bit of a flop and only 18 and 8 when u could do a trade for a 20 and 10 young player (i know yao is young but he wont develop into a monster, whether u like it or not). Yao is good, but will only improve if he stops being such a weak <font color="red">profanity edited</font>, which I dont see happening. Other moves were good though.</div>

First off, tell me a center out there, other than shaq, that is better than Yao. And second off, Yao is still improving, so his numbers are going to keep getting better. He had a career year in blocks and points and minutes, so this season, he can give us 20-10. Look at the numbers, yao is one of the most efficient players in the league.

B+ I amnt sure about the Head move, but overall, he is one of the most underated players in the draft, so it could be a steal. Swift was actually the best PF out there for us, SAR is just another juwan howard and Marshall is getting old. Swift brings us a lot of youth, speed, great shotblocking and good rebounding(last season he was off from his career, he can give you 10 boards in 35 min). Derek Anderson is also a solid aquisition, plus for a good price. HE brings us hieght, depth, and finally a decent backup to tmac. We also brought back barry and mutombo, solid players. The only thing that went wrong is we heavily pursued stoudamire and werent able to get him.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">wow obviously u dont know what impact yao brings
let me start:
1)hes a presence in the paint
2)he attracts players to play along side him ex. tmac last season
3)big men are hard to find these days yao is ten times better than brad miller
and there is only 3 centers in the league better than yao and those are shaq ben wallace and amare
4)yao might not be strong but hes in his third year coming from a country where it was disrespectful to dunk on some1 and 18-8 for a guy like taht is pretty dam good
5) major publicity to the rockets
6)he is so tall and so hard to get around for inside players that he can make other center's numbers go down for that game shaq avg 26.7 pts in his career. against shaq last year avg 20.1 and career 17.4 rebounding last year 9.8 while career 8.5. Ben wallace is the only other center that can do a better job. Yao held shaq to 15 pts last season
7) and even if we trade him who would we get thats better at his position only person i see is trading for KG which i highly doubt minnesota would do</div>


Yao is not all that ye are making him out to be, period.
1)He is a presence in the paint, but a presence that gets a vicious dunk down his throat every game
2)Most superstars attract players to play alongside them
3)I agree with u 100% on that, but why bring Miller into this, it has nothing to do with him, I'd like to see Yao (big soft) hustle and dive for loose balls
4)Its disrespectful to dunk on somebody in every country, period
5)Along with tmac
6)He is big, but very soft, is on the end of a vicious dunk nearly every game
7)I'm sure you could get some very nice young pieces to compliment T-mac, and instantly ye are a contender

Its all opinions baby, don't be trippin, I'm just not a big fan of Yao, although I would trade him for Miller anyday.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">I giv u guys an A-. You adressed a need at PF by signing Stro, and got a good PG in DA. I think you improved a lot and will contend for the West.</div>

I agree I would also give them an A- they definitely improved picking Stro and DA. With Yao getting better every year, T-Mac doing his thing like he always does and then you add Stromile Swift and DA at the point the Rockets are looking pretty good.

 

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Yao is not all that ye are making him out to be, period.
1)He is a presence in the paint, but a presence that gets a vicious dunk down his throat every game
2)Most superstars attract players to play alongside them
3)I agree with u 100% on that, but why bring Miller into this, it has nothing to do with him, I'd like to see Yao (big soft) hustle and dive for loose balls
4)Its disrespectful to dunk on somebody in every country, period
5)Along with tmac
6)He is big, but very soft, is on the end of a vicious dunk nearly every game
7)I'm sure you could get some very nice young pieces to compliment T-mac, and instantly ye are a contender

Its all opinions baby, don't be trippin, I'm just not a big fan of Yao, although I would trade him for Miller anyday.</div>
I think you are watching too many SportsCenter highlights. You're overexaggerating the fact that Yao gets dunked on. For everytime he gets dunked on, he blocks or obscures two or three shots. I don't understand this, you say he's a superstar, but yet you think Rockets should have traded him away? Your reasoning doesn't really make sense. Since you applied that he's on the level of superstars, why should we trade a player of his calibur? We won't get someone that good back in return, sort of like how Lakers got screwed when they traded O'Neal. And since we're already on O'Neal (Big and tough), I'd also like to see him dive for loose balls and hustle. Big men are much easier to build teams around where guards you generally have more trouble. Since your favorite team is the Kings, we'll use that as an example. By building around Webber, they were able to get a successful team up which brought them to the Western Finals. We're contenders right now, so why should we trade Yao away for young pieces to build around McGrady to become contenders?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao is not all that ye are making him out to be, period.
1)He is a presence in the paint, but a presence that gets a vicious dunk down his throat every game
2)Most superstars attract players to play alongside them
3)I agree with u 100% on that, but why bring Miller into this, it has nothing to do with him, I'd like to see Yao (big soft) hustle and dive for loose balls
4)Its disrespectful to dunk on somebody in every country, period
5)Along with tmac
6)He is big, but very soft, is on the end of a vicious dunk nearly every game
7)I'm sure you could get some very nice young pieces to compliment T-mac, and instantly ye are a contender

Its all opinions baby, don't be trippin, I'm just not a big fan of Yao, although I would trade him for Miller anyday.</div>

if most superstars attract players then y hasnt more players come to minnesota, lakers, philly to play with KG, kobe, and AI

CENTERS DO NOT DIVE FOR BALLS
name one center that made his name known or dives after balls more than 3 times in a season.
those vicious dunks were from stromile swift and shaq no one else.

 

I'm giving them a B. Houston filled in some holes and got guys like Stromile and Derek Anderson. Swift gives the Rockets a nice complemetery to Yao Ming at the power forward spot. While Derek Anderson is a guy who can help you out at the point guard position and is the right type of player to play along with T-mac and company.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Woah, let me take a breather here first. Ok. Yao has improved every year since he has been in the league and his efficiency rating is off the charts. If he is given the minutes, he's definitely capable of getting a 20 and 10 statline. He might not be a monster, but Yao will be a great player. He has finesse and skills unlike a brute O'Neal. Who could we have traded Yao for and not get raped in the deal? Whenever you trade a star like Yao, you definitely won't get the same skills and star power in return.</div>
While Yao is efficient, I am going to have to disagree with you by saying he will average 20 and 10 if he was given the right minutes. The reason he isn't given more minutes is because Yao gets tired easy, and has a hard time playing a lot of minutes runing up and down the floor.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post"> 1)He is a presence in the paint, but a presence that gets a vicious dunk down his throat every game
2)Yao is not all that ye are making him out to be, period
3)I agree with u 100% on that, but why bring Miller into this, it has nothing to do with him, I'd like to see Yao (big soft) hustle and dive for loose balls
4)Its disrespectful to dunk on somebody in every country, period
5)Along with tmac
6)He is big, but very soft, is on the end of a vicious dunk nearly every game
7)I'm sure you could get some very nice young pieces to compliment T-mac, and instantly ye are a contender.</div>

You have the SPORTSCENTER SYNDROME. But don't be alarmed. Many in justbball have it. Symptoms are blurting out baseless comments without any hardcore facts. Examples like:

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao is not all that ye are making him out to be, period. .</div>
Yeah...........the people like you are making him out to be. Regardless of what you think, Yao is the second best Center in the league. Period.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">
1)He is a presence in the paint, but a presence that gets a vicious dunk down his throat every game.</div>

Your obviously exaggerating. Yao has gotten dunked on quite a few times, but so has Jermaine O'Neal, Kevin Garnett, and Tim Duncan. You obviously get excited when you watch Sportscenter, but just because somebody gets dunked on doesnt mean they're not worthy, or need to be traded.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">6)He is big, but very soft, is on the end of a vicious dunk nearly every game.</div>
Yep. You have Sportscenter Syndrome alright. That's the second time you mentioned that. I suggest you watch the actual games, not just the sensless highlights. The game of basketball is a great game to watch, you should try it sometimes.

 

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While Yao is efficient, I am going to have to disagree with you by saying he will average 20 and 10 if he was given the right minutes. The reason he isn't given more minutes is because Yao gets tired easy, and has a hard time playing a lot of minutes runing up and down the floor.</div>
Well, he's only two points and three rebounds away from getting that. But the main reason he's logging these kinds of minutes isn't because of his conditioning but rather because of foul trouble. However, with Swift, a good shotblocker, helping him out down low, Yao shouldn't have too much trouble with stupid fouls. Plus, we've got a slightly faster defender in Andersen instead of Wesley, so guards won't be able to just drive by and get Yao to pick up fouls.

 

tru dat tru dat

 

I definetly agree with Azxn's last post.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">
3)I agree with u 100% on that, but why bring Miller into this, it has nothing to do with him, I'd like to see Yao (big soft) hustle and dive for loose balls</div>

Dude...seriously, do you watch the NBA? I've seen Yao dive for loose balls at least twice in the season and once in the playoffs. Ha, its all opinions eh? Before you state your opinions, you better be sure of your facts

 

No we don't deserve an A.

An A is only dserved if we took care of ALL our lineup problkems, we didn't do that.

I'd give us a B+ because we fixed many problems. Our PF position, and backup 2-guard. We also got younger.

That being said, we have a too many guards, and we didn't address that problem. We also couldn't gert a legit, pass-first PG.

None-the-less, it was a a good solid offseason.