<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Although Jones thanks Riley for the chance last season afforded him, he is baffled by the team's extreme makeover. "I've been scratching my head from Day One," he said. "I can't give you a real reason why it had to be done. We lost to the defending champions with a whole lot of things that didn't get airplay. Udonis [Haslem] had a broken finger; Eddie [Jones] was having knee problems; Dwyane was hurt; and I got two cortisone shots in my ankle so I could play in Game 7. Pat Riley had a vision of, I don't know, the Showtime Lakers and a bunch of big names. I just wish we could've done what the Detroits and San Antonios and even the Lakers in their championship years did -- keep everybody together and build that championship continuity." That, of course, is no longer his concern. Despite the Cuyahoga love, owner Dan Gilbert's money and whatever he might say, Jones leaves the lingering impression that he still wishes it were.</div> Source
Well if they were all healthy, or close tobeing healthy, then theres's no doubt in my mind that we would have advanced to the Finals. However, it's tough to say if we would have beaten the Spurs. The Fact is, we upgraded at the SF spot and PG spot (Jason Williams>Damon Jones) and we got depth at the PF spot. Some may question the Walker transaction, but with Shaq, Wade and Riley, there won't be any complaining allowed.
Damons questioning our moves, ha while Heat fans are questioning why this guy wants more money, and why he talking bad about the Heat after he leaves, lmao as if he wouldnt be happy playing here with a ring in his finger.
Damon is pissed off at Riley so ofcourse he's gonna take a cheap shot like that. But Riley said it like he saw it: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">''We wanted Damon. We felt this was the best place for him,'' Riley said. ``What they wanted, we were unwilling to do. We traded for a starting point guard. How much are you willing to pay a backup?''</div> Damon got a great deal and on this team we don't overpay. Even the deal we offered him, $3mil/yr for 3yrs, was overpaying since he would be just a backup. The precedent was set when Shaq took a $10million a year paycut. No one has the right to come to this team looking for a big pay day after what he did.
Damon is pissed off at Riley so ofcourse he's gonna take a cheap shot like that. But Riley said it like he saw it: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">''We wanted Damon. We felt this was the best place for him,'' Riley said. ``What they wanted, we were unwilling to do. We traded for a starting point guard. How much are you willing to pay a backup?''</div> Damon got a great deal and on this team we don't overpay. Even the deal we offered him, $3mil/yr for 3yrs, was overpaying since he would be just a backup. The precedent was set when Shaq took a $10million a year paycut. No one has the right to come to this team looking for a big pay day after what he did.
Apparently Tony Parker feels they have too many stars: <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tony Parker:</div><div class="quote_post">In Miami, they have signed a lot of stars. Maybe too many. Shaq, Wade, plus Antoine Walker and Jason Williams? Damon Jones was a good fit because he only shot threes. Now with Williams on board, the thing can go out of control.</div> Hoopshype
Why does everyone say Williams is a star? He's not a star, he's a good PG, but he's not a start, he's less of a star than Tony Parker is. They have 2 stars, Wade and Shaq, Walker has been a star too, so their's Walker, and that's all. James Posey is a good complimentary player, and same with Williams.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Apparently Tony Parker feels they have too many stars: Hoopshype</div> Wow, how gay, as if the Spurs have a bunch of no names on their squad w.e ya say Tony
Damon jones is right the last time i checked it was the spurs and pistons winning all the championships with team ball, the 03-04 lakers marked the end of the big name star concepts.
Damon jones is right the last time i checked it was the spurs and pistons winning all the championships with team ball, the 03-04 lakers marked the end of the big name stars concept. I was a miami fan last season, but this year they got greedy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lamont:</div><div class="quote_post">Damon jones is right the last time i checked it was the spurs and pistons winning all the championships with team ball, the 03-04 lakers marked the end of the big name stars concept. I was a miami fan last season, but this year they got greedy.</div> The last time I checked have you ever seen these guys play together? Team concept is good, and smart, but whos to say the big name stars cant work out. Of course it can: its not a matter of big name stars or role players its a matter of what team plays better basketball and gets the job done on the court. And with a roster like that how can you doubt they wont get the job done on the court. And Lamont, let me ask you something, so you believe this offseason the heat downgraded and now there worst? Hopefully you dont have that much haterade to say such a ridiciloius thing. Its sad to see, it really is the Heat lose a fan because they improved...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheTruth5:</div><div class="quote_post">The last time I checked have you ever seen these guys play together? Team concept is good, and smart, but whos to say the big name stars cant work out. Of course it can: its not a matter of big name stars or role players its a matter of what team plays better basketball and gets the job done on the court. And with a roster like that how can you doubt they wont get the job done on the court. And Lamont, let me ask you something, so you believe this offseason the heat downgraded and now there worst? Hopefully you dont have that much haterade to say such a ridiciloius thing. Its sad to see, it really is the Heat lose a fan because they improved... </div> I'll put it down like this...if they do worse this season then last, i won't be suprised.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Why does everyone say Williams is a star? He's not a star, he's a good PG, but he's not a start, he's less of a star than Tony Parker is. They have 2 stars, Wade and Shaq, Walker has been a star too, so their's Walker, and that's all. James Posey is a good complimentary player, and same with Williams.</div> It's because that Jason Williams thinks that he's a star and plays like he's one. No matter how toned down his game is, he's still "White Chocolate", and he still takes ill-advised shots and makes ill-advised passes. And like Walker, he'll think that he's supposed to be the one to take the shot with the game on the line. He's the kind of player who will think he's above his coaches and his teammates. As for Posey, I think Posey is the third best player on this team and the closest thing that they have to a star outside of Wade. Calling him "a good complimentary player" is definitely an insult to the guy's game. He had problems with injuries last year, but when he was healthy, he was one of the NBA's top ten or so defenders and the best overall player on the Grizzlies team that won 50 games. He doesn't have that star ego like Williams nor any name recognition, but that doesn't make him any less of a star player.
^ ...but he's still a complimentary player. I like James Posey, and I agree that he's probably the 3rd best player on the team, but he's not a star, or #1 option, so what else can I call him? He's a complimentary guy isn't he? Think of a guy like Marion, he's like the superstar role player, he's not a #1 option, but he's a very good player. Posey is like a lesser version of that, he's like an All-Star role player.
I actually have to agree with OG15's first post. White chocolate is not a star, but he has a lot of name recognition because of how he used to play in Sacramento. Jason Williams is a better point guard that DJ, who I still don't consider a true pg. Damon Jones is much more efficient though. Williams has shown that he is a horrible shooter. Even under Hubie's system Jason was somewhat out of control, and tried to take over when Gasol wasn't producing. I think that he'll be a good fit under the system, because he won't get much attention. I think that DJ was probably better though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">I actually have to agree with OG15's first post. White chocolate is not a star, but he has a lot of name recognition because of how he used to play in Sacramento. Jason Williams is a better point guard that DJ, who I still don't consider a true pg. Damon Jones is much more efficient though. Williams has shown that he is a horrible shooter. Even under Hubie's system Jason was somewhat out of control, and tried to take over when Gasol wasn't producing. I think that he'll be a good fit under the system, because he won't get much attention. I think that DJ was probably better though.</div> DJ chose to leave. He is expendable when he asks for a big money contract when he is a mediocre player. can we say derick fisher? He was a big time shooter with shaq in the middle now what is he doing? hoping he stays off the ir at GS. I predict the same for Jones. GL Heat!
