Here's just a little article I was gonna do, suggesting possible trade ideas...yall check it out and just lemme know what ya think ================================== If you?re reading this article, chances are that you?re a Rockets fan. In fact, you may very well be the #1 Rockets fan in all of the United States. Therefore, from time to time, you glance over the current Houston Rockets roster, thinking up all the trades that general manager Carroll Dawson should pull the trigger on. Now, let us clarify the generality in which we say ?trades?. Not trades like ?Charlie Ward for Shaq? or ?Vin Baker for Paul Pierce?. We mean legit, reasonable trades that are actually a beneficiary for both parties involved. While we can?t possibly think up all the ideas that are churning within the minds of our fellow Rockets loyalists, here are some trade ideas in which may be able to help the Rockets advance to the throne they once held in the mid-90s. Mind you, all of the following trade ideas work under the salary cap. Whether you as a fan believe they will help is a whole different story. 1. Charlie Ward and David Wesley to the Memphis Grizzlies for Mike Miller What the Rockets receive here is a 6?8? swingman who is a great shooter and passer. Miller is a versatile player who is more than capable of playing point guard in pinch spots. He is a career 39% 3-point shooter, and has averaged 13 points, four rebounds and almost three assists per game. He also has experience playing with Rockets guard Tracy McGrady, as they once were considered the future of the Orlando Magic. Memphis does not need Miller any longer after acquiring guard Eddie Jones from Miami in a recent blockbuster deal on Wednesday. Also having acquired guard Bobby Jackson from Sacramento in an earlier trade transaction this offseason, there is also no room for Miller on the bench. In return, the Grizzlies get two expiring contracts who will help unload cap space for next year. Wesley brings a shooter to Memphis who can also guard players at either backcourt spot. 2. Bob Sura and David Wesley to the Indiana Pacers for Jeff Foster and Anthony Johnson To say that the Pacers have a logjam at the frontcourt spots would be an understatement. The Rockets have a logjam at the guard spots. Hmmm, just a coincidence? Unlikely, as it appears this deal would be a match made in basketball heaven for both teams. The Rockets receive a 6?11? forward/center in Foster who has averaged 6 rebounds for his career, while the Pacers receive some guard help. With Reggie Miller retiring, Stephen Jackson will play a larger role this season, and Sura would provide a stable backup as a shooting guard. Sura plays the kind of defense Pacers coach Rick Carlisle craves, and could even man some backup point minutes in case free-agent signee Sarunas Jasikevicius has trouble adapting to the transition of pro European star to backup NBA player. Johnson gives the Rockets a legit point guard who can run a team, play defense and push the ball; Wesley gives the Pacers an expiring contract and a veteran shooter. 3. Charlie Ward to the Philadelphia 76ers for John Salmons This trade is simply a case of two players who won?t see any playing time in their respective situations. Ward gives the Sixers a point guard who can shoot and run a team in case Allen Iverson chooses to switch back to his two-guard spot. As their roster stands now, the only true point guard the Sixers have is Kevin Ollie, who has been a career backup and can run a team decently and defend, but is not quick nor an offensive threat. Salmons is a nice, young athlete who at 6?7? can play three positions, but is in a numbers game in Philly. With Iverson, Kyle Korver, Aaron McKie, Andre Iguodala and possibly Willie Green, Salmons will have a hard time getting minutes. In Houston, its possible he could see time as a backup swingman, who can come in and play hard defense and get out in the running game. The Rockets have little to no stability behind McGrady at the small forward spot, and Salmons could come in and provide a nice and effective 8-10 minutes per game. 4. Charlie Ward to the New York Knicks for Mike Sweetney Ah, how Ward would not love a return to his beloved Knicks. New Knicks coach Larry Brown loves his point guards. And he loves his point guards who can flawlessly run the team, hit the open shot and pressure the ball defensively, all of which Ward has the capability of doing. Why would the Knicks give up Sweetney? Simply because Knicks GM Isaiah Thomas has created a mess of a salary cap situation in the Big Apple and would love the chance at any cap relief at all. Not to mention, the Knicks are overloaded at the power forward spot, with Maurice Taylor, Malik Rose, Jerome Williams and 2005 draftee David Lee. Brown would appreciate the chance of having Ward ready to help in case his relationship with the more risk-taking Marbury falls upon troubled waters. 5. David Wesley to the Utah Jazz for Greg Ostertag Utah gave up Ostertag prior to the 2004-05 NBA season and recently acquired him in a five-team blockbuster trade on Tuesday. Do you seriously think the Jazz missed 1.6 points and two rebounds per game so badly that they gave up promising youth in center Curtis Borchardt and guards Raul Lopez and Kirk Snyder? Of course not, they wanted an expiring contract for some cap relief for next season. So how about giving up one expiring contract for another? The Rockets have tons of guards. The Jazz don?t. Aside from Gordan Giricek and 2005 draftee Deron Williams, the Jazz have no other stability at the guard spots as all their other guards are free agents. Wesley gives them a veteran for hard-nosed Jazz coach Jerry Sloan, and he gives them a shooter for their frontcourt stars Carlos Boozer, Andrei Kirilenko and Mehmet Okur. Wesley also plays the type of defense that Sloan demands out of his players. Ostertag gives the Rockets more length and another solid shotblocker up front who embraces his role and has valuable playoff experience, including two trips to the NBA Finals as a member of Utah in 1997 and 1998. If Dikembe Mutombo somehow does not re-sign with Houston, this trade would suffice nicely for the Rockets.
Hell no lets be realistic here. And the very last one is RIDICULOUS!! wesly for OSTERTAG?????? What in the world are u thinking! and wesly and ward for MIKE MILLER come on now these trades only benefit us not the other teams now. <strike>dude dont post again.</strike> <font color="red">Your personal attacks are not appreciated. This is your final warning or you'll be subject to a suspension.~Trip</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TMAC_713:</div><div class="quote_post">Hell no lets be realistic here. And the very last one is RIDICULOUS!! wesly for OSTERTAG?????? What in the world are u thinking! and wesly and ward for MIKE MILLER come on now these trades only benefit us not the other teams now. dude dont post again.</div> I think ur looking at it from a straight-up talent perspective...the ostertag-wesley one was BEFORE they agreed with mutombo...so we wouldve needed a backup center, plus losing wes wouldnt have hurt horribly...just given a little more time to Anderson, Barry, and James...
I don't think any of those trades are realistic. The only reason Charlie Ward is still in the league is because JVG is still coaching. In all likelyhood Ward is going to be waived by the start of the season, so I don't see any teams trading anything to acquire him. Also the Amnesty Rule really cheapened the value for players with expiring contracts. Teams who were in the luxury tax threshold were able to get under it by waiving players instead of being forced to trade talent for expiring contracts. I notice this was obviously written early in the off-season, so most of those trade proposals are out dated. I think the Wesley for Ostertag trade was actually creative, assuming Deke was going to retire. All the Rockets would need is 8 to 10 mins a game from Ostertag to clog the middle and dish out some hard fouls. The majority of the minutes would obviously go to Yao, and even Swift could play some minutes at center.
yeah shape, these trades WERE prior to most of the offseason...obviously utah wouldnt take wes now that they signed devin brown...
The trades don't help the positions we need very much but hey mike miller?! why da hell not?!?! haha if we can get a high quality player for our garbagethen why not? hey Houston...if we can pull off that trade, i also have a trade carol dawson might be able to pull off... my trash from last week for $1000!!!! Wishful thinking!!
At first i was lost, but seeing how it early in the offseason, they would have made sense. Those are all graet trades, and real creative. I would have gone with the Foster or Miller trades. Right now, they wouldnt work out. I really wouldnt change our roster at all because there isnt much space for improvement, unless it was something that seriously shuffled our roster.
Just looking over the list <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">2. Bob Sura and David Wesley to the Indiana Pacers for Jeff Foster and Anthony Johnson </div> stood out. I dont think its in the Rockets best interest to trade Sura at all. He was the soul reason the Rockets went on their winning streak and he brings the toughness this team needs; the other Rockets are too nice and almost passive. Also his rebounding is a nice addition none of the other guards bring to the table. I would like to see the Rockets keep the core group of Sura, Barry, Anderson(if he helps us out this season), and Head. Mike James is my least favorite; I think we can do without his style.
I don't think that Indiana would have worked well either. We would essentially be giving up two starters for a fifth starter in Foster and a backup in Johnson. Talent-wise, there is a huge drop off, although both Johnson and Foster will be younger than Wesley and Sura. Johnson is a good three point shooter but he is not the quickest and he's an average point guard in the league. I wouldn't mind having him for a backup but there would be no way I'd give up Sura for him. No one else on our team would do as good a job starting at the one than he did last season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bplld:</div><div class="quote_post">At first i was lost, but seeing how it early in the offseason, they would have made sense. Those are all graet trades, and real creative. I would have gone with the Foster or Miller trades. Right now, they wouldnt work out. I really wouldnt change our roster at all because there isnt much space for improvement, unless it was something that seriously shuffled our roster.</div> exactly, I had written this up about 5, 6 weeks ago...as of right now, ur right..I would not change the roster...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think any of those trades are realistic. The only reason Charlie Ward is still in the league is because JVG is still coaching..</div> That was the Justbball quote of the year right there
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">That was the Justbball quote of the year right there </div> JWohl has some funny comments as well. Of all those trades, I'd love the first one. I've been pushing for Mike Miller for a long time, but it seems we have a glut of guards already. Ward would end his contract on the IR on whatever team he wants. Expiring Contracts appeal to some teams. Since the Rockets are locked up with Howard, Yao, and McGrady for a few good years, I think trading our expiring contracts for one Mo-Taylor-esque contract is not as bad as it would seem. For those of you who think Trade 1 is impossible, I wouldn't say so. Mike Miller and McGrady are close friends, if they do decide to trade him, he would be pulling for Houston. Eddie Jones, Damon Stoudamire, Bobby Jackson, Hakim Warrick? A whole lot of versatile players for Memphis there, the 2 and 3 would be stacked, and with Damon and Jackson it doesn't seem like the 1 is a viable option for him either. IMO, Miller has some shooting talent that should only be on a bench of a championship caliber team. Miller signed a nasty contract with Memphis, extending to the 09/10 season. The Numbers aren't too nice either, he's gonna earn almost 9 million in his last season. I think if he under-performs the first half of the year, Mike Miller will be traded. To the Rockets? Highly doubt it. Unless CD and JVG think the team needs to be reshaped.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting magnomonkey:</div><div class="quote_post"> For those of you who think Trade 1 is impossible, I wouldn't say so. Mike Miller and McGrady are close friends, if they do decide to trade him, he would be pulling for Houston. Eddie Jones, Damon Stoudamire, Bobby Jackson, Hakim Warrick? A whole lot of versatile players for Memphis there, the 2 and 3 would be stacked, and with Damon and Jackson it doesn't seem like the 1 is a viable option for him either. IMO, Miller has some shooting talent that should only be on a bench of a championship caliber team. Miller signed a nasty contract with Memphis, extending to the 09/10 season. The Numbers aren't too nice either, he's gonna earn almost 9 million in his last season. I think if he under-performs the first half of the year, Mike Miller will be traded. To the Rockets? Highly doubt it. Unless CD and JVG think the team needs to be reshaped.</div> I agree..........the problem isn't the Rockets. It's Memphis. I highly doubt that Memphis is going to watch us take Swift on a platter, and turn around and basically give us Mike Miller for an aging undersized Wesley. Not to mention that we're all in the same division, so they'll get to see first hand how bad of a trade that was.
ya the mike miller trade was the only one i liked b/c the other trades either sent away sura which we need or sent charlie ward for a player that would also sit on our bench and watch rockets games. but memphis would not do that in 20 years
