Fox Sports: Top 10 Centers in the NBA

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  1. Brasco

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">But as we rank the centers of the NBA today, the majority of them still were schooled in the game here and the definition of center continues to expand beyond just locking horns inside.

    Of course, there is nobody to compare to mammoth Shaquille O'Neal, who has been the preeminent pivot man ever since Hakeem Olajuwon retired. Because he is a 7-footer and well over 300 pounds with all the requisite skills, Shaq makes a game almost impossible to officiate. Consequently, defending him is mostly based on the attempt to force the ball out of his hands, unless a team can prevent him from getting the ball at all. His health has been an issue the past four seasons ? he's missed an average of nearly 14 games a year ? and with his 34th birthday coming in March, that's not likely to change.

    Nonetheless, he is Shaq!</div>

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4870666


    I think Z should be higher than Miller.
     
  2. SupraJames

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    Good list. Can't disagree much there.

    By the way, let the Yao vs Amare flame starts.
     
  3. babybulls

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    Personally i'd put magloire over camby and chandler over Dalembert. Gotta love yao over amare especially cause amare isn't really a center but even if you made a list of bettter players i'd take yao over amare
     
  4. Nasty

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    If Amare is considered a Centre, how is Yao a better player?!
    There is no logic behind putting Yao ahead of Amare.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">If Amare is considered a Centre, how is Yao a better player?!
    There is no logic behind putting Yao ahead of Amare.</div>

    the Logic is Yao is a better Center, pure center. Amare is a great player, but as a center he doesn't have great post moves, and as someone as atheltics as him he doesn't rebound and block that well either.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lamont:</div><div class="quote_post">the Logic is Yao is a better Center, pure center. Amare is a great player, but as a center he doesn't have great post moves, and as someone as atheltics as him he doesn't rebound and block that well either.</div>
    That's not how it should be looked at. Marion played the 4 the entire season, yet he was listed as a small forward by the same site when they ranked him.

    If Amare is considered a centre, then he should be ahead of Yao because he's the BETTER player.
     
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    Smitty brush em off.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting babybulls:</div><div class="quote_post">Personally i'd put magloire over camby and chandler over Dalembert. Gotta love yao over amare especially cause amare isn't really a center but even if you made a list of bettter players i'd take yao over amare</div>


    Isn't Chandler a PF?
     
  8. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    Don't think that Amare should be ranked as Center. I think they did, because he was so dominant that few people realized he was playing out of position. I agree that Yao is a better 5 than Amare, but Amare is a better overall player.
     
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    Where's the love for Ruben Boumjte-Boumjte?

    In all seriousness, it's a pretty good list. I'd just switch Amare and Yao, and put Camby over Ilagauskas.
     
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    Here's how I'd rank em:

    1. Shaq
    2. No one worthy
    3. No one worthy
    4. No one worthy
    5. No one worthy
    6. Yao
    7. Ben Wallace
    8. Marcus Camby
    9. Big Z
    10. Brad Miller

    If Amare is a Center I'd put him over Yao.
     
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    1. Shaq
    2.Amare
    3. Yao
    4. Big Ben
    5. Brad Miller
    6. Big Z
    7. Camby
    8. Magloire
    9. Dalembert
    10. Curry

    I think Amare is better, more physical and he'll just pound you out like he did in the playoffs when he was unstoppable. I also rank Curry ahead of Chandler, and Miller of Big Z because Miller is one of the most underated Centers in the game.
     
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    Yeah I think Z should get the edge over Brad Miller, same goes for Amare and Yao, other than that, suprisingly, I agree with FoxSports on this list.
     
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    1.shaq
    2.yao
    3.ben wallace
    4.Zydrunus
    5.Brad Miller
     
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    Am I the only one who thinks Camby should be ranked ahead of Big Z? The guy is so underrated, he's almost as dominating on defense as Big Ben.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Purple Fever:</div><div class="quote_post">If Amare is considered a Centre, how is Yao a better player?!
    There is no logic behind putting Yao ahead of Amare.</div>

    3 Things that explain why Yao is a better Center:

    Its simple. Yao scares people. No one will drive in when they see him under the rim.

    He doen't have someone named STEVE NASH getting assisting (doing all the work) him all the time. Amare plays like SHI without Nash. Yao has the better FG%, and is 7-6. Plus he only gets like 9-12 touches a game (and still averages 19ppg).

    <strike>Yao makes you MONEY!!!!!!!! EVERYONE LIKES MONEY!!!!!!! YOU GET ALL OF CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AND MANY OTHER FANS ALLLLL OVER THE WORRRRRRRRRRLD. YAY MONEY!!!! I LIKE MONEY! I LIKE YAO.

    there u fucn go.</strike> <font color="Blue">

    Lets be a little more civilized and not act like we are twelve. - Hunter</font>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">3 Things that explain why Yao is a better Center:

    Its simple. Yao scares people. No one will drive in when they see him under the rim.

    He doen't have someone named STEVE NASH getting assisting (doing all the work) him all the time. Amare plays like SHI without Nash. Yao has the better FG%, and is 7-6. Plus he only gets like 9-12 touches a game (and still averages 19ppg).

    Yao makes you MONEY!!!!!!!! EVERYONE LIKES MONEY!!!!!!! YOU GET ALL OF CHINAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AND MANY OTHER FANS ALLLLL OVER THE WORRRRRRRRRRLD. YAY MONEY!!!! I LIKE MONEY! I LIKE YAO.

    there u fucn go.</div>

    First of all let me start by saying these Fox ratings are crazy! People call me a homer???...................

    Your logic is awful!

    Yao Ming has never had a statistical season that was comparable with Amare. Every year Amare has had better numbers then Yao. Two seasons ago Amare averaged 20 ppg without Nash which is a better average then Yao has ever had in his career. Amare has made it farther then Yao ever has in the playoffs and has been clutch in that forum. Remember Game 6 at San Antonio or three years ago when Amare banked that 3 against San Antonio. Amare has also improved statistically every year he has been in the league (13, 20, 26 ppg). Yao makes more money and that makes him a better player??? Amare is the better player and has outperformed Yao statistically and in winning basketball games. I do not hate Yao Ming, he is a good player but please do not tell me he is comparable to Amare Stoudemire.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting emannen:</div><div class="quote_post">please do not tell me he is comparable to Amare Stoudemire.</div>

    He isn't. They both play different positions and their gamestyles are different. Amare is playing a PF game but he was listed as a C. That should change this year hopefully with the addition of That doesn't make him a real C. It's just a bogus tag. This is like saying LeBron James is a better PG than Steve Nash when Bron really isn't a pure PG like Nash is. Overall playerwise, Amare is better of course, but if you compare them from a pure Center's standpoint, Yao has the edge.

    Now even though this list is pretty good, some of the players really shouldn't be included in here (i.e: Amare and Tyson.. both who are PFs).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting emannen:</div><div class="quote_post">First of all let me start by saying these Fox ratings are crazy! People call me a homer???...................

    Your logic is awful!

    Yao Ming has never had a statistical season that was comparable with Amare. Every year Amare has had better numbers then Yao. Two seasons ago Amare averaged 20 ppg without Nash which is a better average then Yao has ever had in his career. Amare has made it farther then Yao ever has in the playoffs and has been clutch in that forum. Remember Game 6 at San Antonio or three years ago when Amare banked that 3 against San Antonio. Amare has also improved statistically every year he has been in the league (13, 20, 26 ppg). Yao makes more money and that makes him a better player??? Amare is the better player and has outperformed Yao statistically and in winning basketball games. I do not hate Yao Ming, he is a good player but please do not tell me he is comparable to Amare Stoudemire.</div>


    There's been alot of arguments over Yao and Amare. If Amare is a center, they consider him to be better than Yao. But in my standpoint, if the Suns didn't have Nash last season, you can easily take away 5 points per game away from Amare. Nash does an incredable job of passing the ball and that's why Amare has gotten better field goal % as well.

    Not to mention that Amare averaged about 36+ minutes per game for two seasons and yao averaged only 30 minutes last season. So you could say yao improved significantly because he played less time and still managed to have similar stats last year compared to 2003-2004 season.

    Now stats wise, if Yao played 36 minutes last season, he should have gotten at least 20 points per game. Of course, his Foul trouble probably played a role in some of the games' minutes as well.


    Yao's stats
    YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
    03-04 HOU 82 82 32.8 .522 .000 .809 2.4 6.6 9.0 1.5 .27 1.90 2.49 3.30 17.5
    04-05 HOU 80 80 30.6 .552 .000 .783 2.6 5.8 8.4 .8 .43 2.00 2.45 3.70 18.3


    Amare's Stats
    YEAR TEAM G GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
    03-04 PHO 55 53 36.8 .475 .200 .713 2.9 6.2 9.0 1.4 1.16 1.62 3.22 3.40 20.6
    04-05 PHO 80 80 36.1 .559 .188 .733 2.7 6.2 8.9 1.6 .96 1.63 2.36 3.50 26.0
     
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    Amare has no defense, no post moves, and all he does is dunk. He also can't shoot free throws and is not a shot blocking threat. amare is very OR
     
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    Id count Yao below Amare anyday. Yao is just too slow for me. He is too big lol, if thats possible. I just love watching Amare with his quickness and footwork. But if were talking TRUE center, you would have to say Yao above Amare just because of his size.
     

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