NBA Pre-Season Power rankings:lakers #23

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  1. Brasco

    Brasco JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Lakers may need more than Phil Jackson to solve the team's ills. They missed the playoffs for the first time since 1994 and could repeat the feat this year.</div>

    http://www.nba.com/features/power_rankings_sept05.html

    Nba.com has the Lakers still not having a lock on the playoffs and behind the Clippers.
     
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    Interesting how they have Larry Brown bringing hope to the Knicks, but Phil Jackson isn't enough for the Lakers. A lot of room for improvement for the Lakers to climb up the power ranking ladder.
     
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    Whatthef? Sactown Laker

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    Playoffs? Playoffs?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lamont:</div><div class="quote_post">http://www.nba.com/features/power_rankings_sept05.html

    Nba.com has the Lakers still not having a lock on the playoffs and behind the Clippers.</div>

    Based on aquired player's history this is not a playoff team. However since Mitch has a crystal ball into the future, noone else can see it since he keeps it with his head-up his arse, we won't know for sure until our wizard Phil gets through with his magic. Pimp our ride, Phil! [​IMG]
     
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    I don't care what anyone says, the last laugh will belong to the Lakers.
     
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    I agree with you, but the last laugh could happen in 5 years...
     
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    Yournewchef Whippin up a cake.

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    don't fall for the speculation. Everyone wants to bash the Lakers because of the success they had in the last 5 years and they are just eating up the fact that they didn't make the playoffs without shaq and they can easily point the finger at Kobe. The last laugh will be on the Lakers and I bet they get the most improved team this year.
     
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    What makes you think they will be better than last year if they havent made no major changes. And if you think Kwame Brown will be a factor, talk to some Wizards fans and they'll tell u. Coaches dont win games, players do!
     
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    I like the lakers ranked that low. Just makes them look better when they come out strong in the WEST>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SanQuinn:</div><div class="quote_post">Coaches dont win games, players do!</div>

    Look at the Denver Nuggets and George Karl
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Interesting how they have Larry Brown bringing hope to the Knicks, but Phil Jackson isn't enough for the Lakers. A lot of room for improvement for the Lakers to climb up the power ranking ladder.</div>Well cmon, Larry Brown is famous for turning teams around. Phil Jackson made a living by finishing the job. You can't compare Phil Jackson to Larry Brown in turning teams around just as you can't compare Larry Brown to Phil Jackson in delivering titles.

    Until proven otherwise Phil Jackson isn't enough to guarantee the Lakers a playoff spot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting trenchteam:</div><div class="quote_post">I like the lakers ranked that low. Just makes them look better when they come out strong in the WEST></div>

    Sounds awfully familiar. Exactly what Laker fans said last year.
     
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    Yournewchef Whippin up a cake.

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SanQuinn:</div><div class="quote_post">What makes you think they will be better than last year if they havent made no major changes. And if you think Kwame Brown will be a factor, talk to some Wizards fans and they'll tell u. Coaches dont win games, players do!</div>
    There are more factors the Lakers have than just KWAME BROWN. Coaches don't win games and players do?? Players need coaches and coaches need players to win. Phil Jackson is one of the best coaches ever. If you replace a bad coach with a good coach, then you are going to see a MAJOR difference. Why do you think everyone is excited for the Knicks and Larry Brown? Why not the same with Phil and the Lakers. I think Kobe made a attitude change for the better. Your right that nothing obvious has happened to the Lakers, but some lineup changes are going to make some differences.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Heat4Life:</div><div class="quote_post">Well cmon, Larry Brown is famous for turning teams around. Phil Jackson made a living by finishing the job. You can't compare Phil Jackson to Larry Brown in turning teams around just as you can't compare Larry Brown to Phil Jackson in delivering titles.

    Until proven otherwise Phil Jackson isn't enough to guarantee the Lakers a playoff spot.</div>
    Please name a team Larry Brown turned around in one season.

    Detroit Pistons - 50 to 54 (+4) wins Brown's first season
    Philly 76ers - 22 to 31 (+9) wins Brown's first season
    Indiana Pacers - 41 to 47 (+6) wins Brown's first season

    Larry Brown will turn the Knicks around, but if you look at his coaching history it takes more than one season and a lot of roster moves for it to get done.

    I'd argue the 1993-94 Bulls team looked very bad on paper. It was the year after Jordan retired the first time. The team's roster had the following players and they still managed a 55 win season.

    <font size="1">Scottie Pippen
    Toni Kukoc
    Horace Grant
    BJ Armstrong
    Steve Kerr
    Pete Myers
    Scott Williams
    Luc Longley
    Bill Wennington
    Bill Cartwright
    Stacy King
    Jojo English
    Corie Blount
    Dave Johnson
    Will Perdue
    John Paxson</font>

    I think PJax deserves a lot of credit getting this team to win only 2 fewer games than the previous year, after losing Mr. Everything, Michael Jordan. Don't you?

    I'm not saying the Lakers are a lock for the playoffs, but Phil Jackson will get this team playing better than they were last season. His biggest impact will be coaching this team to be better defensively. Last year the Lakers were 27-7 when they held opponents under 100 points.

    Players might win the games, but coaches prepare them and put them in situations to win those games.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Sounds awfully familiar. Exactly what Laker fans said last year.</div>Difference is, this is another year. When the Lakers have a streak of more than 3 years in a row out of the playoffs, then people can start talking. It remains to be seen. Clean slate this year partner
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Please name a team Larry Brown turned around in one season.

    Detroit Pistons - 50 to 54 (+4) wins Brown's first season
    Philly 76ers - 22 to 31 (+9) wins Brown's first season
    Indiana Pacers - 41 to 47 (+6) wins Brown's first season

    Larry Brown will turn the Knicks around, but if you look at his coaching history it takes more than one season and a lot of roster moves for it to get done.

    I'd argue the 1993-94 Bulls team looked very bad on paper. It was the year after Jordan retired the first time. The team's roster had the following players and they still managed a 55 win season.

    <font size="1">Scottie Pippen
    Toni Kukoc
    Horace Grant
    BJ Armstrong
    Steve Kerr
    Pete Myers
    Scott Williams
    Luc Longley
    Bill Wennington
    Bill Cartwright
    Stacy King
    Jojo English
    Corie Blount
    Dave Johnson
    Will Perdue
    John Paxson</font>

    I think PJax deserves a lot of credit getting this team to win only 2 fewer games than the previous year, after losing Mr. Everything, Michael Jordan. Don't you?

    I'm not saying the Lakers are a lock for the playoffs, but Phil Jackson will get this team playing better than they were last season. His biggest impact will be coaching this team to be better defensively. Last year the Lakers were 27-7 when they held opponents under 100 points.

    Players might win the games, but coaches prepare them and put them in situations to win those games.</div>

    other than Kobe and odom, every single player on that bulls roster is still alot better than any 05 Laker. not to mention the east during that year was really weak.
     

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