http://www.nba.com/features/power_rankings_sept05.html Rockets are where they are supposed to be. (I think we can beat Detroit becuz yao is better that Ben) Why the heck do my posts/threads keep dissappearing. Whoeever is doing it pleas PM me or STOP!
Indiana is better than Detroit and Houston IMO. Houston is a bit overated but they are a legit team in the West. Detroit should be behind Indy and Mimai because they lost LB and didn't do anyhting to improve their roster this offseason.
Pistons added the Pacers starting center to their roster (Dale Davis) along with the high flying Maurice Evans. Would be foolish to say they didn't improve their roster when they clearly did. The only obvious pick right now is the Spurs at number 1. The top of the east is a lottery right now. There is no clear cut best team at this moment.
Wasn't Jeff Foster Indy's starter? IMO Artest coming back is bigger than all of those moves. I agree that SA is definately number one. They kept everything that won them a title and even added another leader in Finley.
foster was the indy starter and j o neal was pf because foster provided a major amount of offensive rebounds. I dont think people realize that artest is not just defense he is an offensive threat. He avg 22 pts before he was suspended and taht was with miller, o neal, and jackson on the team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">avg 22 pts before he was suspended</div> actually it was 24, but i see your point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">Wasn't Jeff Foster Indy's starter? IMO Artest coming back is bigger than all of those moves. I agree that SA is definately number one. They kept everything that won them a title and even added another leader in Finley.</div> Yes Artest returning no doubt helps but the Pistons still beat the Pacers with him. While both sides have upgraded. Indiana lost Reggie who did so much for that team that didn't show up in the box scores. Dale Davis was the Pacers starter the 2nd half of the season. Foster came off the bench. Was more effective that way. Foster is more of a PF which might be why Davis got the start. Of course Davis was a better defender which helped his cause. All in all, the east's elite are very evenly matched which is why It is very hard to pick who wins the conference. You can't go wrong with any of the 3. Detroit, Miami or Indiana.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">Indiana is better than Detroit and Houston IMO. Houston is a bit overated but they are a legit team in the West. Detroit should be behind Indy and Mimai because they lost LB and didn't do anyhting to improve their roster this offseason.</div> I think Indiana has the endge over DET & Houston as long as Artest sayed healthy, and kept up w/ his conditionging. Even w/ the new Yao (i think a summer of footwork and weight training is enuff to say he should vastly improve his game) Indiana has O neal, who always has something to prove when he faces YAO. I really hope Detroit was just a Fluke. I don't want them to be a good team anny more. They are so ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz to watch. SA vs Detroit was okay in the champsionship, (excluding game 5) i didnt enjoy basketball like I always did. I preferred watching the lakers taking on Golden state during the regular season, rahter than watching those two teams go at it. So for now, SA should be the only boring good team. Detroit (i hope) falls off there game w/o Larry Brown. Sorry to all the Detroit Fans out there (if there are any left). As for Miami. I think any one that has some logic about basketball CLEARLY SEES that they are on top of the east by more than just a bit. You guys act like THEY HAVE TO KEEP walker or williams. If they ruin the team like all of you guys expect (i think you guys just want them to fail, because you fear another dynasty) then they could just bench each or both of them until they are traded for some draft picks or sumthing. Miami will dominate the East.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I really hope Detroit was just a Fluke. I don't want them to be a good team anny more. They are so ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz to watch. SA vs Detroit was okay in the champsionship, (excluding game 5) i didnt enjoy basketball like I always did. I preferred watching the lakers taking on Golden state during the regular season, rahter than watching those two teams go at it.</div> How can a team be a fluke when they have won 50+ games the last 3 seasons? please explain that one. Pistons were a contender before Larry Brown and will continue to be one after him. It's obvious you hate the Pistons and any team that focuses on defense. My suggestion to you is quit watching the NBA and focus on streetball.
AllNet, it's his opinion about the series don't tell him to stop watching the NBA just because he doesn't enjoy watching your Pistons. It was a boring series and that is a fact. They aren't uptempo teams but that just the way they play.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">AllNet, it's his opinion about the series don't tell him to stop watching the NBA just because he doesn't enjoy watching your Pistons. It was a boring series and that is a fact. They aren't uptempo teams but that just the way they play.</div> It has more to do with hating a team because of the way they play. If all he likes is up tempo teams who play no defense at all then streetball is certainly for him. Kids these days care more about high flying dunks and losing than old school basketball and winning. Which is a problem. I also don't see how the Pistons/Spurs was boring. Maybe to the average fan the first few games but the ending was one of the most exciting finishes in recent memory.
The NBA is full of uptempo players and that's why people love seeing that style of play. You can play uptempo basketball and still play defense. Look at Miami and Houston, it's not streetball, it's just a more enjoyable style of play. If the Pistons played that way would you enjoy the uptempo style?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">The NBA is full of uptempo players and that's why people love seeing that style of play. You can play uptempo basketball and still play defense. Look at Miami and Houston, it's not streetball, it's just a more enjoyable style of play. If the Pistons played that way would you enjoy the uptempo style?</div> I wouldnt necessarily label Houston an "uptempo" team...we run sometimes but we're mostly a halfcourt team that tries to exploit Yao's postups and the pick-and-roll with Tmac and Yao... but my top 5 teams are: 1. San Antonio 2. Miami 3. Houston 4. Indiana 5. Detroit
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">The NBA is full of uptempo players and that's why people love seeing that style of play. You can play uptempo basketball and still play defense. Look at Miami and Houston, it's not streetball, it's just a more enjoyable style of play. If the Pistons played that way would you enjoy the uptempo style?</div> Miami last year weren't just an up tempo team they played both styles. Houston were not an up tempo team last year. They were a halfcourt team mainly due to thats JVG's style. I like up tempo basketball. Don't think that I don't. I like both the new class and the old school way of basketball. However It is proven great defense is the only way you can win a title these days. Along with balence offense and not a team full of stars. Obviously people still don't realise that and think high flying dunks is the way to go. It's fine liking fastbreak basketball but I don't see how one can't enjoy great defense. Reasons is kids these days are brought up for dunks and high flying moves which might be why the rest of the world are catching up with US basketball.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">How can a team be a fluke when they have won 50+ games the last 3 seasons? please explain that one. Pistons were a contender before Larry Brown and will continue to be one after him. It's obvious you hate the Pistons and any team that focuses on defense. My suggestion to you is quit watching the NBA and focus on streetball.</div> Wow. WOW! I only have serious hate for Detroit. San Antonio is okay. Why do you make such large statements/ASSUMTIONS over small my small claims and opinions. If I don't like 1 or 2 teams, you believe I should focus on streetball and stop watching the NBA. Before that, you claim I am a fanboy who only know how to praise the Rockets just because I think they have the edge over Detroit this year. And before that, you said I GAVE ALLL the Rockets fans a bad name, JUST BECAUSE OF MY ONE OPINION? I do admit, I think the Rockets are better than Detroit. I think EVERY TEAM in the west that made the playoffs, is better than Detroit (MAYBE, JUST MAYBE NOT Seattle or Sacramento, but everyone else). By better, I am referring to winning a seven game series with them. I honestly believe this. I don't care if they won a championship. They are just not as underrated as many people think they are. I believe they are even overrated. Memphis beat them 2/2 last year...wow. But hey, thats my opinion, and we will probably never know if its true because I doubt Detroit will make it to the championship this year anyways. Not with other great East teams that have developed this year. Especially Miami. Now quit harrassing me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Now quit harrassing me.</div> Don't worry you will be gone soon with any luck and you can take your terrible point of views elsewhere.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Memphis beat them 2/2 last year...wow.</div> Ya and the Raps took one off your Rockets <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">AllNet, it's his opinion about the series don't tell him to stop watching the NBA just because he doesn't enjoy watching your Pistons. It was a boring series and that is a fact. They aren't uptempo teams but that just the way they play.</div> You're right, he does have a right to his opinions, no matter how blatantly biased or wrong they are. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't worry you will be gone soon with any luck and you can take your terrible point of views elsewhere.</div> I for one am crossing my fingers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post"> The only obvious pick right now is the Spurs at number 1. The top of the east is a lottery right now. There is no clear cut best team at this moment.</div> Perfectly said. The season will be an interesting one in the Eastern conference. I wannasee all thsee teams battle it out.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting lessthanjake:</div><div class="quote_post">actually it was 24, but i see your point.</div> i was thinking of RJ before his injury
