Best of the Best. East versus West.

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  1. Culperfect

    Culperfect JBB JustBBall Member

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    Simple as it can be: Pick your top 10 picks (whatever criteria you want to use) for East Versus West; pick 5 starters a piece, 5 reserves; who would win?

    West:
    PG- Steve Nash
    SG- Kobe Bryant
    SF- Tracy McGrady
    PF- Tim Duncan
    C- Yao Ming
    Reserves- F/C Dirk Nowitzki, G Baron Davis, F Andrei Kirlienko, G Ray Allen, F/C Amare Stoudemire

    East:
    PG- Allen Iverson
    SG- Dwayne Wade
    SF- LeBron James
    PF- Jermaine O'Neal
    C- Shaquille O'Neal
    Reserves- F/C Ben Wallace, F Antawn Jamison, G Jason Kidd, G Steve Francis, F/G Vince Carter

    I have to give this one to the West... barely. The offensive prowess of the Western Players is impressive, even when compared to this Eastern arsenal. (I just realized that there are about 12, 13 active players who may be Hall of Famers/ Note: I just couldn't put KG on a team I created; even in my imagination).

    So, who's yours? Who'd win? Why?
     
  2. ROCK4LIFE

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    Damn!! Didn't realize that the East gotta squad like that. But the West just simply has too many weapons. KG belongs over Dirk.
     
  3. Culperfect

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn!! Didn't realize that the East gotta squad like that. But the West just simply has too many weapons. KG belongs over Dirk.</div>
    Unfortunately I agree with you on KG... I just can't do it.
    Ever since he broke Rick Rickert's jaw at practice because he kept scoring, I've put KG kind of in my Sprewell category of players whose hands I wouldn't shake.
    But, he's still possibly the best in the league. And, he might not be a bad guy.
    You ever just hear one of those things that just kind of changed how you looked at a player?
     
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    KG broke who's jaw?
     
  5. Culperfect

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    Rick Rickert; 6'11; C/F from University of Minnesota (I think); training camp before last season. Rickert apparently got his grill smashed to the degree it had to be wired. I'll try to find the article for you.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Culperfect:</div><div class="quote_post">Unfortunately I agree with you on KG... I just can't do it.
    Ever since he broke Rick Rickert's jaw at practice because he kept scoring, I've put KG kind of in my Sprewell category of players whose hands I wouldn't shake.
    But, he's still possibly the best in the league. And, he might not be a bad guy.
    You ever just hear one of those things that just kind of changed how you looked at a player?</div>


    Eh, I thought KG's always been a nice guy. Maybe it wasn't intentional? Or did KG punch him?
     
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    West:
    PG- nash
    SG- kobe bryant
    SF- Tracy Mcgrady
    PF- Tim Duncan
    C- Yao Ming
    Reserves- F/C Kevin Garnett, G Baron Davis, F Shawn Marion, G Ray Allen, F/C Amare Stoudemire

    East:
    PG- Allen Iverson
    SG- Dwayne Wade
    SF- LeBron James
    PF- Jermaine O'Neal
    C- Shaquille O'Neal
    Reserves- F/C Ben Wallace, F Antawn Jamison, G Jason Kidd, G Gilbert Arenas, F/G Vince Carter
     
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    Here's a seemingly biased recount of the day from a certain, highly-reputed basketball web-site:
    "MVP clobbering

    Rick Rickert a second round draft pick of the Minnesota Timberwolves was apparently outplaying the team's mighty league MVP in a pickup game. The rookie's glory didn't last however, because Kevin Garnett unexpectedly landed a fist to the new guy's grill.

    Rick needed stitches to close a cut on his chin and had a chipped tooth. Nothing to joke about.

    The rookie was trying to make the Minnesota squad and was without a single doubt firing on all cylinders. Garnett on the other hand really doesn't have a strong motivation at this point in the season. But he surely wasnt happy to play the turnstile that served as the gateway to the NBA.

    Now the queston is did the Timberwolves organization do anything about KG? I mean you can't get slugged by an 8 figure corporate giant for nothing can you.

    If yeah, it's worth considering that in the real world it's called assault.

    In all honesty it was a sucker punch from an individual who was thought to have more class. If you notice well, you won't see mention or detail of the incident on most major NBA media sites. Kevin is the golden child that get the good side of the media.

    Pehaps also it's because of Rick Rickert's lack of reputation that this incident has such a low profile. Basically Minnesota (and the NBA) can do without Rick so no big talk here.

    Indeed, such a cruel cruel world."

    Apparently my account was over-done: Rickert's jaw was not broken.
    Especially since the first article I found was so well-written for my biased purpose:
    I encourage you to type in "Kevin Garnett" and "Rick Rickert" into your favorite search engine and see for yourself.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">West:
    PG- nash
    SG- kobe bryant
    SF- Tracy Mcgrady
    PF- Tim Duncan
    C- Yao Ming
    Reserves- F/C Kevin Garnett, G Baron Davis, F Shawn Marion, G Ray Allen, F/C Amare Stoudemire

    East:
    PG- Allen Iverson
    SG- Dwayne Wade
    SF- LeBron James
    PF- Jermaine O'Neal
    C- Shaquille O'Neal
    Reserves- F/C Ben Wallace, F Antawn Jamison, G Jason Kidd, G Gilbert Arenas, F/G Vince Carter</div>

    If Dirk's name had appeared anywhere, we'd be in total cahoots (as they say).
     
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    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    I'm not really sure about this whole topic. What does it really matter who has the better stars, because the West has the better teams. For argument's sake though, here's the lineup I'd put out there -

    <u>West</u>
    PG - Steve Nash
    SG - Kobe Bryant
    SF - Dirk Nowitzki
    PF - Kevin Garnett
    C - Tim Duncan
    Bench: G - Mike Bibby, G - Ray Allen, F - Tracy McGrady, F - Amare Stoudamire, C - Yao Ming

    <u>East</u>
    PG - Jason Kidd
    SG - Dwyane Wade
    SF - LeBron James
    PF - Jermaine O'Neal
    C - Shaquille O'Neal
    Bench: G - Gilbert Arenas, G - Allen Iverson, F - Ron Artest, F - Dwight Howard, C - Ben Wallace

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not really sure about this whole topic. What does it really matter who has the better stars, because the West has the better teams. For argument's sake though, here's the lineup I'd put out there -

    <u>West</u>
    PG - Steve Nash
    SG - Kobe Bryant
    SF - Dirk Nowitzki
    PF - Kevin Garnett
    C - Tim Duncan
    Bench: G - Mike Bibby, G - Ray Allen, F - Tracy McGrady, F - Amare Stoudamire, C - Yao Ming</div>
    Dirk over Tmac? You know I had to say something.
     
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    Voodoo Child Can I Kick It?

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk over Tmac? You know I had to say something.</div>

    Yeah, it's a close pick, but I had to give Dirk the edge; he's bigger, more versatile, and his numbers are better -

    <font color=""Red"">Red = Better #'s</font>

    Tracy McGrady -

    Rockets - 51-31
    MPG - 40.8
    PPG - 25.7
    RPG - 6.2
    <font color=""red"">APG - 5.7</font>
    TO - 2.6
    FG - 43%
    3pt - 33%
    FT - 77%

    Dirk Nowitzki -

    <font color=""red"">Mavericks - 58-24</font>
    <font color=""red"">MPG - 38.7
    PPG - 26.1
    RPG - 9.7</font>
    APG - 3.1
    <font color=""red"">TO - 2.3
    FG - 46%
    3pt - 40%
    FT - 87%</font>
     
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    West:

    PG-Mike Bibby
    SG-T mac
    SF-Marion
    PF-KG
    C-TD

    reserves- F-Kobe,G-Ray Allen, F-Amare,G-Nash,C-Yao

    East:

    PG-Starbury
    SG-Larry Hughes
    SF-Lebron
    PF-Jermaine O Neal
    C-Shaq

    reserves- G- D Wade,G-AI,F-Joe Johnson,F-Antawn Jamison,C-Big Ben


    Man there are so many ppl i would like to put it here,but not everyone can fit unfortunately.
     
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    west
    c/ tim duncan
    pf/ k.g
    sf/ t-mac
    sg/ kobe
    pg/ steve nash
    reserves= yao ming,amare stoudemire,dirk nowitzki,ray allen,Giniboli

    east
    c/shaq
    pf/ j.o'neal
    sf/lebron
    sg/d.wade
    pg/iverson
    reserves=ben wallace,P.Pierce,R.Artest,J.kidd,G.arenas

    And I Think The West Would Win
     
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    West:
    PG - Steve Nash
    SG - Kobe Bryant
    SF - Tracy McGrady
    PF - Kevin Garnett
    C - Tim Duncan

    Reserves -
    Mike Bibby, Ray Allen, Amare Stoudemire, Elton Brand, Shawn Marion

    East:
    PG - Jason Kidd
    SG - Paul Pierce
    SF - LeBron James
    PF - Jermaine O'Neal
    C - Shaquille O'Neal

    Reserves-
    Allen Iverson, Dwyane Wade, Ron Artest, Antawn Jamison, Ben Wallace


    I'm surprised so many people have omitted Paul Pierce from the east.
     
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    West
    1.Nash
    2.Bryant
    3.T-mac
    4.KG (i like KG more than i like Tim Duncan)
    5.Yao
    or
    1.T-mac
    2.kobe
    3.KG
    4.Tim Duncan
    5.Yao

    East
    1.Allen Iverson
    2.Lebron or Wade
    3.Vince Carter
    4.Jermaine O'neal
    5.Shaq

    Who would win?? West,barely though.
     
  17. eyes only

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not really sure about this whole topic. What does it really matter who has the better stars, because the West has the better teams. For argument's sake though, here's the lineup I'd put out there -

    <u>West</u>
    PG - Steve Nash
    SG - Kobe Bryant
    SF - Dirk Nowitzki
    PF - Kevin Garnett
    C - Tim Duncan
    Bench: G - Mike Bibby, G - Ray Allen, F - Tracy McGrady, F - Amare Stoudamire, C - Yao Ming

    <u>East</u>
    PG - Jason Kidd
    SG - Dwyane Wade
    SF - LeBron James
    PF - Jermaine O'Neal
    C - Shaquille O'Neal
    Bench: G - Gilbert Arenas, G - Allen Iverson, F - Ron Artest, F - Dwight Howard, C - Ben Wallace

    BTW - Welcome to JBB! [​IMG]</div>
    totally with you and commend you on the addition off artest. wonder y he hadnt been added before hes the best defensive sf in the game. however my eat would look more like
    East
    pg-Iverson
    sg-Wade
    sf-lebron
    pf-O'neal
    C-O'neal
    bench-Artest,Bosh,Gordon,howard,pierce,jamison!
    i think these guys together could take the west anyday.oh yeah the west i pretty much agree with most o yall but i would have amare start over yao not to be a hater but i think an amare duncan combo woulld be alot scarrier than yao duncan.
     
  18. JUNIOR_SOPRANO

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting eyes only:</div><div class="quote_post">totally with you and commend you on the addition off artest. wonder y he hadnt been added before hes the best defensive sf in the game. however my eat would look more like
    East
    pg-Iverson
    sg-Wade
    sf-lebron
    pf-O'neal
    C-O'neal
    bench-Artest,Bosh,Gordon,howard,pierce,jamison!
    i think these guys together could take the west anyday.oh yeah the west i pretty much agree with most o yall but i would have amare start over yao not to be a hater but i think an amare duncan combo woulld be alot scarrier than yao duncan.</div>

    east

    stephon marbury
    allen iverson
    lebron james
    rasheed wallace
    jermaine o`neal

    west

    baron davis
    kobe bryant
    tracy mcgrady
    kevin garnett
    tim duncan
     
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    East:
    PG - Jason Kidd
    SG - Allen Iverson
    SF - LeBron James
    PF - Jermaine O'Neal
    C - Shaquille O'Neal

    Reserves - Ben Wallace, Ron Artest, Dwyane Wade, Vince Carter, Michael Redd, Rasheed Wallace

    I'd be crazy if I had Bosh and Howard on my list right now.

    West
    PG - Kobe Bryant
    SG - Tracy McGrady
    SF - Kevin Garnett
    PF - Amare Stoudemire
    C - Tim Duncan

    Reserves - Dirk Nowitzki, Ray Allen, Shawn Marion, Yao Ming, Steve Nash

    And I'd be nuts if I had Ginobili on my list, he's not in the NBA elite
     

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