<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If all the new, uh, personalities click, Riles wins Executive of the Year and we eat crow. Stan VG, meanwhile, wins Coach of the Year if he can last the whole season.</div> http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/powerranking...on=2006&week=-1 it's the chemistry its all about the chemistry.
It is without a doubt "unfair" to put a team lower because of chemistry. Ya theres a possibility chemistry might be a problem sooner or later, but none of us has seen it yet and the players have all stated that they will do whatever they can for the team. What really gets to me is that so many other teams got a stack of new players yet know1 mentions anything about chemistry problems. The rankings are for this: they should rank them keeeping in mind the amount of success the team will have, not rank them by the problems they think the team will face.
yea until this brainiac sees us play he can't say anything and we are a legit top 5 and are better than every he put above us accept for SA and that remains to be seen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">yea until this brainiac sees us play he can't say anything and we are a legit top 5 and are better than every he put above us accept for SA and that remains to be seen.</div> And until you see how the Heat play how can you think the Heat are better than everyone above them? teams like the Pistons and Pacers are proven teams who play great defense. It remains to be seen If the Heat can do that and wether guys who have been chuckers most of their careers can actually hit shots when they need to. It's foolish to say at this stage the Heat are better than a team that has won the east the past two seasons and a team who has also upgraded the roster. That didn't try and get star power. Just very good role players.Until proven otherwise, the Heat at 5 is not unreasonable.
HOw are the heat unproven??? we're better than Detroit because they lost a coach that was their MVP. We'll see what happens when the season starts.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">HOw are the heat unproven??? we're better than Detroit because they lost a coach that was their MVP. We'll see what happens when the season starts.</div> Larry Brown was more of a distraction than an MVP this past season. It's the players who win the games. Score the points, pass the ball and rebound. Not the coach. Flip Saunders is a quailty coach in his own right. Pistons were a contender before Larry and will stay one without him. It's a joke that you say Larry was the MVP when Larry took over a title contending team. Had Sheed not been brought in then Larry would not of got further than Rick Carisle did most likely. Pistons still have the best starting 5 both sides of the ball and now should have a better bench than a year ago. Along with adding in Mo Evans who had a great year with the Kings and when he got playing time was a real threat. He is also another good defender to throw out there. Plus rest for Tayshaun Prince who you could see wore down in the playoffs due to the amount of minutes he was forced to play in the regular season. Then there's Dale Davis who started for Indy last year and averaged 7 and 8. He is another big man who can defend and rebound. Those factors alone will make the Pistons a better team this year.Miami are unproven due to the amount of new talent they brought in. Lost their two best shooters and replaced them with Posey although he is decent had injury problems last year and Tonie and J-Will are guys who want the ball and want shots. Both I can certainly see being a problem. Miami have too many guys who want the ball and too many guys have big ego's. I can easily see an implosion with the Heat this year. They have many things that have to go right for them and chemistry isn't the only thing. Shaq's decline will continue and how he stays heathly will decide Miami's season.We will see how the season turns out but by no means can you say the Heat are certainly better than the teams above them in the rankings. They have alot to prove. To win a title you have to play great defense and play as a team. It remains to be seen If Miami can do that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting playmaker14:</div><div class="quote_post">HOw are the heat unproven??? we're better than Detroit because they lost a coach that was their MVP. We'll see what happens when the season starts.</div> I would not go that far to say Larry Brown as their MVP a coach is only a reflection of the team he is coaching. Did George Karl forget how to coach in Milwaukee and all of a sudden remember once more how to coach in Denver? Or even Pat Riley was he a bad coach because the Heat struggled in the latter days he coached there? You can have the best coach in the league and if he does not have the talent he will not be successful, but at the same time you can have an inexperienced coach (Stan Van Gundy last year) and give him the talent and he will be successful. A lot of people seem to have taken the popular notion that the Heat are light years better than the Pistons, but I still believe the Pistons are the team to beat in the east. They lost their coach, but kept all their main stars in the fold as well as adding new talented players. Don?t sleep on them I am not going to deny the Heat are a good team, but people are already handing them the championship trophy and the season did not even start yet. Preseason rankings really don?t tend to mean anything it?s not like Stein said anything negative about the Heat team he simply stated that if the chemistry were there that they would be successful.
Heat at 5???????? I honestly don't think we are #1 but 5 is too low. They(like...Classic Heat hater All NEt) only talk about Shaq's decline but how about Wade improvement? GO BSPN to hell!!!!!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting WadeDynasty:</div><div class="quote_post">Heat at 5???????? I honestly don't think we are #1 but 5 is too low. They(like...Classic Heat hater All NEt) only talk about Shaq's decline but how about Wade improvement? GO BSPN to hell!!!!!!!</div> Yeah I must be a hater just because I point out what many experts also have concerns with when mentioning the Heat. Obviously Wade will improve but he isn't the only young guy who will keep getting better in this league. As I said Miami have just as good a shot as the Pistons and Pacers to make the finals but they could also implode as well. To say the Heat are some kind of big favourite is foolish. You can't be that biased to see that. I'm sure If your team had won the east the last two seasons you would be throwing that down people's neck too. To say the Heat are certainly better than the back to back defending east champs and a great balenced team like Indy is wrong at this stage.
Allnet I cant believe you. Critisizing the HEAT! Well i agree with you. Shaq WILL decline. It will be either this year or next year. I think your team made a serious downgrade from last year. This year there are way too many more established players who will want the ball more. DJ and EJ were awesome. Yes Wase will improve. Yes the Heat have massive talent. Talent isnt everything. The Heat are in no way a better team than the Pistons or the Pacers, which are bothwell established defense oriented teams. As the quote goes "offense wins games, defense wins championships" San Antonio and Detroit have been the best teams in thier respective conferences for a reason.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OrlandoMagicFan:</div><div class="quote_post"> As the quote goes "offense wins games, defense wins championships"</div> Defense doesn't apply to Shaq, because he is unstoppable. I think Miami is underrated, but its nothing to get upset about. These ratings change every week. Detroit and Miami are 2nd and 3rd or vice versa imo.
I would say Miami is overrated. They have a cancer in Antoine. Too many players who will want to shoot too much. Shaq is not unstoppable. He will decline this year or next year mark my words. Do you want to know an underranked team? The Orlando Magic. We have the best team we have had in years (Not as good talent wise in the starting line-up) but more depth in the bench than Miami. We are ranked 24th. We are behind teams like the Celtics and the Wizards... Honestly we are much better than them.I would say we are a top 15 team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OrlandoMagicFan:</div><div class="quote_post">I would say Miami is overrated. They have a cancer in Antoine. Too many players who will want to shoot too much. Shaq is not unstoppable. He will decline this year or next year mark my words. Do you want to know an underranked team? The Orlando Magic. We have the best team we have had in years (Not as good talent wise in the starting line-up) but more depth in the bench than Miami. We are ranked 24th. We are behind teams like the Celtics and the Wizards... Honestly we are much better than them.I would say we are a top 15 team.</div> First off, Miami is not overated and Antoine has said he will take whatever role is given out to him. James Posey and Udonis Haslem aren't offensive players so I don't see a problem with 3 or 4 guys taking majority shots. Shaq is still unstoppable c'mon stop lying to yourself man. The Magic havent done anything to impress me so until they actually do something that's worth noticing then you can call them a top 15 team. Finishing third in an already weak division isn't saying much. Better than the Celtics or Wiz??? Maybe you have a chance to be better than the Celtics, but definately not the Wizards. Top 15
Yes we are better than the Wizards. We were last year and we are this year. Lasy year we didnt play up to our potential. We had a late season meltdown which screwed us. Injuries killed us last year. I won't deny that the Heat are a good team but saying they are underrated at 5 is crap with the Magic rating 22 with more depth. Talent-wise Heat is one of hte best in the league. Many other factors matter though...chemistry etc. I am still believing Shaq will decline soon and/or get an injury. What will Heat do if Shaq gets injured? Yes fill in with Mourning but he is just as old as Shaq. I just think that is a little high for a team who took out 2 or 3 starters out from last years team and replaces them....Just not sure the chemistry is there.... We will see which team is more underrated. I see the Magic in top 15 rather than 22... Heat were overrated last year and I hated how everyone flocked to cheer for them just because they got Shaq and they got a good team. I prefer fans who stick through think and thin.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting OrlandoMagicFan:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes we are better than the Wizards. We were last year and we are this year. Lasy year we didnt play up to our potential. We had a late season meltdown which screwed us. Injuries killed us last year. I won't deny that the Heat are a good team but saying they are underrated at 5 is crap with the Magic rating 22 with more depth. Talent-wise Heat is one of hte best in the league. Many other factors matter though...chemistry etc. I am still believing Shaq will decline soon and/or get an injury. What will Heat do if Shaq gets injured? Yes fill in with Mourning but he is just as old as Shaq. I just think that is a little high for a team who took out 2 or 3 starters out from last years team and replaces them....Just not sure the chemistry is there.... We will see which team is more underrated. I see the Magic in top 15 rather than 22... Heat were overrated last year and I hated how everyone flocked to cheer for them just because they got Shaq and they got a good team. I prefer fans who stick through think and thin.</div> Exactly a melt down is something the Wizarsd didn't have because they are a better team. The Magic will be a good team but they aren't mature enough yet.Umm.. captain obvious, everyone knows Shaq will decline soon but he is still dominant. Mourning is a great backup and a great asset to have on this team as well with his leadership and intensity. Maybe those fans where fans of Shaq and will root for him on whichever team he is on. That's my view of it.
