http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4972290 CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) - Eddy Curry officially joined the New York Knicks on Friday after a team of doctors hired by the team cleared him to play. The 22-year-old forward spent the past several days since being traded from Chicago to New York going through a battery of heart tests. He missed the final 13 games of last season and the playoffs after being diagnosed with an irregular heartbeat. Curry, who spent his first four NBA seasons with the Bulls, took the court Friday evening to practice with the Knicks at the College of Charleston after the NBA reviewed the test results. I was praying for him to pass. I really want Curry on the knicks. A healthy Curry can be a force in the east. Although everyone doubts him, I think behind Aguirre and LB he can. No its Curry time to learn the knicks plays, gamestyle,etc.
Thanks for the news, Skillz and thanks for the pics, Shape. It's nice to see Curry is finally a Knick and he;s getting busy downlow - that's why we got him!
Well this sucks. Oh well. Farewell salary space, draft picks, and rebounding. Welcome lazy chump with nice hefty contract and heart problems to boot. Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Well this sucks. Oh well. Farewell salary space, draft picks, and rebounding. Welcome lazy chump with nice hefty contract and heart problems to boot.</div> What's so bad about that? Curry isn't too bad and can be a monster especially with Aguirre and Brown working with him. Also, Sweetney would have more than likely left us this summer so at least we get something out of this: a 22-year-old center who has a refined post game and is dripping with potential. If we keep Antonio Davis - which will probably happen - the trade becomes even better. Davis as we know is better than Thomas. Curry and Sweetney are bout equal and we really don't need the picks that much; we're already young enough with Frye, Lee, Robinson, Ariza, Curry, Crawford, Richardson, and Butler. If worse comes to worse, I think the pick is lottery protected so we'll be fine. We just lost two second rounders and a first. Davis and Penny are expiring next year so little by little I think we'll be shedding cap space. The year after that, Houston, Taylor, and Anderson are gone, too.
I dont know why everyone is so down about Curry. It seems only me and MRJ like this cat. Main reason is that he's only 23 and is already averaging 15 for game. Everyone acts like he's a loser because he cant rebound but those are all problems that can be solved with practice with Aguirre. Im excited about curry since he's give's us a presence downlow. Hopefully, he can block shots and rebound.
ugh This might just be the most boring roster outside of ATL or Toronto. The Garden deserves better. Larry will get them to overachieve but will anyone care? They will still be a boring club that won't be able to compete at the miami/indiana level.
BORING?? Are you crazy. This might be one of the most exciting teams in the NBA. Crawford, Marbury, Q-rich, Curry, Nate Robinson, Ariza, Lee, etc. Im definetely looking forward to the season. This team definetely has talent and its going 2 be an exciting season. Looking forward to see how N-rob is gonna dunk on.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">What's so bad about that? Curry isn't too bad and can be a monster especially with Aguirre and Brown working with him. Also, Sweetney would have more than likely left us this summer so at least we get something out of this: a 22-year-old center who has a refined post game and is dripping with potential. If we keep Antonio Davis - which will probably happen - the trade becomes even better. Davis as we know is better than Thomas. Curry and Sweetney are bout equal and we really don't need the picks that much; we're already young enough with Frye, Lee, Robinson, Ariza, Curry, Crawford, Richardson, and Butler. If worse comes to worse, I think the pick is lottery protected so we'll be fine. We just lost two second rounders and a first. Davis and Penny are expiring next year so little by little I think we'll be shedding cap space. The year after that, Houston, Taylor, and Anderson are gone, too.</div> More of this "Agguire and Brown working with him" stuff. There is nothing that suggests he'll want to work on his game. Why would he? He got paid already. The only reason he got himself into shape this past season was because it was the last year of his contract. Dampier did the same thing the season before got a ridiculous contract and was a big disappointment this season. By the way its kind of sad Curry couldnt average more than five rebounds per game in a contract year. Havent you read the news? Larry Brown has just said he'll return Antonio Davis to Chicago. He's not staying. Not that it matters since Davis is going to get bought out but how do you figure Davis is better than Thomas??? Now you're just plain making stuff up to justify this bad deal! And you have said it yourself Curry and Sweetney are about equal. So what kind of sense does it make to trade for Curry when he may have serious issues? Nevermind the fact Sweetney would have been cheaper(by the way it's pretty hard for a player to leave when their a restricted free agent just thought you should know)and we would have been able to hang onto our expiring contract and draft picks. Isiah will probably trade Penny too if for no other reason than to do something since that jackass cant sit still for a few months without doing something stupid. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont know why everyone is so down about Curry. It seems only me and MRJ like this cat. Main reason is that he's only 23 and is already averaging 15 for game. Everyone acts like he's a loser because he cant rebound but those are all problems that can be solved with practice with Aguirre. Im excited about curry since he's give's us a presence downlow. Hopefully, he can block shots and rebound.</div> Curry has been in the league for four years now so its not too surprising he's averaging 15ppg. He cant rebound and he cant defend which is two things that a good center mustbe able to do. The reason why the trade was lousy is because Curry simply doesnt help all that much. Scoring wasnt really a problem. The Knicks biggest problem last season was defense. Curry doesnt play defense so he's no help in that regard. A bright spot for the Knicks was rebounding. We've traded away nearly all of our good rebounders. We wont get as many second chance opportunities as we got last season and we're going to probably give up alot of second chance points. In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse. Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
Curry has been in the league for four years now so its not too surprising he's averaging 15ppg. He cant rebound and he cant defend which is two things that a good center mustbe able to do. The reason why the trade was lousy is because Curry simply doesnt help all that much. Scoring wasnt really a problem. The Knicks biggest problem last season was defense. Curry doesnt play defense so he's no help in that regard. A bright spot for the Knicks was rebounding. We've traded away nearly all of our good rebounders. We wont get as many second chance opportunities as we got last season and we're going to probably give up alot of second chance points. In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse. Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.[/QUOTE] Like I said before Curry is only 23. He isnt even in his prime yet. That saying you act like Curry will never be a good rebounder and defender. There's a reason the players practice and are in training camps. Its to improve their skills. I dont like the fact that you're doubting Aguirre since he converted Sweetney and Nazr into what they are 2day. And that is good rebounding skills and post moves. Curry in New York gets a fresh start. His work ethic as you describe can be changed with a great coach in Larry Brown who doesnt take crap from anybody. He doesnt practice, then he doesnt play. I like Curry more since he's taller and can stay in games instead of having alot of foul problems like Sweetney had. Curry is a better scorer since he can score facing and looking away from the basket. Curry can also drain shots from 15 feet, a problem Sweetney had. Bottom Line Curry is more versatile and has more aspects of the game then sweets had.
I would love to see this team fall apart. I'm tired of Larry Brown's poor-me act. I'm tired of Isaiah trying to make a team out of guys he likes personally rather than guys who fit into a competitive team. nate robinson is another one of these pet players for isaiah. If you want to play Daddy, go get a woman, if you want to run a successful team, get players that make sense to what you already have. i'm tired of his smug denial of any problems with the team. I'm tired of Stephon Marbury and his lack of ability to inspire confidence in his teammates due to his own need to be on the covers of shoe magazines and urban lifestyle magazines. It's okay to think you're the best point guard in the NBA even if you're clearly not, but for an example on how to be a sick one on one baller like you AND make the rest of the team better, watch what Baron Davis is doing in Oakland, Steph. and then people like tim thomas get all the blame for these guys. I like Quentin Richardson but it's hard to lead a team from the 3-point line. I predict they will not make the playoffs. There are several teams in the East with less pressure on them that will love coming into the Garden and embarrassing Larry and the Knicks on their home court. Wizards Magic Raptors etc...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">I would love to see this team fall apart. I'm tired of Larry Brown's poor-me act. I'm tired of Isaiah trying to make a team out of guys he likes personally rather than guys who fit into a competitive team. nate robinson is another one of these pet players for isaiah.</div> I am now convinced that you haven't seen Robinson play... He would have easily been a legitmate top-15 pick if weren't for his size, but if you're not happy with him, I'm sure Rick Sund and the boys here in Seattle will give you cash considerations for him if it will make you happy. Good luck in New York this year...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">I would love to see this team fall apart. I'm tired of Larry Brown's poor-me act. I'm tired of Isaiah trying to make a team out of guys he likes personally rather than guys who fit into a competitive team. nate robinson is another one of these pet players for isaiah. If you want to play Daddy, go get a woman, if you want to run a successful team, get players that make sense to what you already have. i'm tired of his smug denial of any problems with the team. I'm tired of Stephon Marbury and his lack of ability to inspire confidence in his teammates due to his own need to be on the covers of shoe magazines and urban lifestyle magazines. It's okay to think you're the best point guard in the NBA even if you're clearly not, but for an example on how to be a sick one on one baller like you AND make the rest of the team better, watch what Baron Davis is doing in Oakland, Steph. and then people like tim thomas get all the blame for these guys. I like Quentin Richardson but it's hard to lead a team from the 3-point line. I predict they will not make the playoffs. There are several teams in the East with less pressure on them that will love coming into the Garden and embarrassing Larry and the Knicks on their home court. Wizards Magic Raptors etc...</div> Whoa,WHoa. What Poor-me act? LB was fired from Detroit because Dumars felt LB was a distraction due to his health issues and his comments about the knicks. LB missed around 19 games, which they did have a bad record in. Joe and many people thought those 19 games couldve gotten them home court advantage. Isiah's GUYS are good players. He has formed a team with the additions of a better SF, Center, and PF. He's slowly by slowly building a good team. Nate robinson wasnt drafted by the knicks. He was drafted by the suns and he came in the Q-rich trade. Nate has alot of talent and he can be a key asset of the bench. B-diddy hasnt done much better then marbury either. Marbury has better career numbers in both pg stats. I dont think Baron has passed the 1st round either. This year is marbury's career year. If he wants to be considered a winner then he has to do it now. There's no excuses. Great coach and a very good supporting cast. Tim Thomas was always known as an underachiever. He missed alot of games and he couldnt be found in critical games. Q-rich is a better player then he is and like Q-rich said he hated only having to shoot 3's but thats what the Suns wanted him to do. In LAC he was a better all around player who could use his size and also drain the long shots. Wizards lost one of their key players, Magic still are having problems in their SF, PG, and SG position since they dont know who to start. Raps have a long way to go to win games. They lost VC and Alston. The Raps have alot more problems then the Knicks have.
I have 4 things to talk about 1. Larry and poor me -GotSkills/Phundamentals 2. Curry and is the trade worth it -Tribute 3. Toronto being worse than NY -Gotskillsz 4. NY being more boring than Atlanta and Toronto -Phundamentals 1.<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">Whoa,WHoa. What Poor-me act? LB was fired from Detroit because Dumars felt LB was a distraction due to his health issues and his comments about the knicks. </div> I honestly think that Larry Brown had a large part about leaving. Its seems all too convenient that Dumars would fire a Hall of Fame coach that lead his team to the Finals for the past two years and coming back with 1 championship. I have been disappointed with Larry Brown and the way he handled himself with the media and quite a few situations. 2.<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse.</div> I am not a Curry fan, and I think he is wasting away his god given size and ability. Anyway, I agree that Curry and Sweetney are very similar players and Sweetney is probably a harder worker, just because Curry is so lazy. The Knicks are going to try to make playoffs every year for the next 4-5 years so lets forget draft picks for a moment. The only difference right now is that it is so rare to find a decent center and it isn't nearly as hard to get good PFs. Just by having Curry in the Knicks offense will make offense easier and prevent opposing centers from switching off NY's center making penetration easier for the Knicks. If Davis is waived then I would rate the trade as 6-6.5 out of 10, where 0 is horrible for the team and 10 is incredible for the team. If Antonio Davis were to actually play for the Knicks(which I doubt he will), then the trade would be a 7.5 out of 10. 3. Yes the Raptors will be worse than the Knicks, unless some miracle occurs where all of rookies are incredible leaders, learn quickly, develop very good chemistry and team defense, then Toronto won't do very well this year. However in 2 years when Toronto has cap space and another couple young players, the situations may be different. 4. Phun, you will consider Atlanta boring? with all of their athletic young players? Anyway, it depends what you consider boring. Some people like high quality basketball on both ends(Spurs, Miami), some like pure offense(Suns), some like dunkers. New York under Larry Brown will probably be high quality basketball on both ends of the court. I tend to appreciate that kind of game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">More of this "Agguire and Brown working with him" stuff. There is nothing that suggests he'll want to work on his game. Why would he? He got paid already. The only reason he got himself into shape this past season was because it was the last year of his contract. Dampier did the same thing the season before got a ridiculous contract and was a big disappointment this season.</div> Well, he did make steady improvements all throughout his career. Unlike Dampier, he steadily improved and averaged 16.1 points; last season he averaged 14.7 points. He also does have his best friend, Crawford, motivating him. I think he’ll be alright. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">By the way its kind of sad Curry couldnt average more than five rebounds per game in a contract year.</div> As I said before, when you have players like Chandler and Davis on your frontline, they’re going to snatch many boards away. Chicago was also #2 in the league in rebounds per game which shows how great the team is in terms of rebounds. Can I say Sweetney got so many rebounds because he played on a bad rebounding team? I agree I think Curry can stand to improve his rebounding, but it’s not as much a problem as the numbers say. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Havent you read the news? Larry Brown has just said he'll return Antonio Davis to Chicago. He's not staying. Not that it matters since Davis is going to get bought out but how do you figure Davis is better than Thomas??? Now you're just plain making stuff up to justify this bad deal!</div> Well, Larry isn’t the President of Basketball Operations – Isiah is. Isiah said it himself he has no intentions of letting Davis go. He said he’ll give him a few days to be with his family in Chicago, but he has to be back shortly after. How do I figure Davis is better than Thomas? I hope you know I mean Tim Thomas; not Kurt Thomas. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And you have said it yourself Curry and Sweetney are about equal. So what kind of sense does it make to trade for Curry when he may have serious issues?</div> How about potential? Curry is a guy from high school who is still learning while Sweetney went to college. They might be about the same now, but in 2-3 years from now, there could be a big difference. Like it or not, Sweetney’s potential is limited because he’s a 6’8” power forward. In this day and age, athletic power forwards are taking the league by storm and it was evident last year when Sweetney couldn’t stay in front of his man without fouling. Sweetney averages 3 fouls in 20 minutes. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nevermind the fact Sweetney would have been cheaper(by the way it's pretty hard for a player to leave when their a restricted free agent just thought you should know)and we would have been able to hang onto our expiring contract and draft picks. Isiah will probably trade Penny too if for no other reason than to do something since that jackass cant sit still for a few months without doing something stupid.</div> I know restricted free agents are hard to sign, but I feel the most we could give him would be the qualifying offer. After hearing all those trade rumors, Sweetney wouldn’t want to stay either. He’ll go to a place where he can get paid or play more. I loved Sweetney’s game, but I think this could be a good thing for us.
Congrats Ny I cant wait until the bulls play the Knicks. I dont know why all of the knicks fans have been crying. You guys got a hell of a deal. I kind of hate that we werent able to keep Curry but maybe brown can make your squad work. You guys have alot of talent on your team and if you could play together youd be dangerous. Maybe curry was the missing piece. GL NY!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">More of this "Agguire and Brown working with him" stuff. There is nothing that suggests he'll want to work on his game. Why would he? He got paid already. The only reason he got himself into shape this past season was because it was the last year of his contract. Dampier did the same thing the season before got a ridiculous contract and was a big disappointment this season.</div> Well, he did make steady improvements all throughout his career. Unlike Dampier, he steadily improved and averaged 16.1 points; last season he averaged 14.7 points. He also does have his best friend, Crawford, motivating him. I think he?ll be alright. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">By the way its kind of sad Curry couldnt average more than five rebounds per game in a contract year.</div> As I said before, when you have players like Chandler and Davis on your frontline, they?re going to snatch many boards away. Chicago was also #2 in the league in rebounds per game which shows how great the team is in terms of rebounds. Can I say Sweetney got so many rebounds because he played on a bad rebounding team? I agree I think Curry can stand to improve his rebounding, but it?s not as much a problem as the numbers say. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Havent you read the news? Larry Brown has just said he'll return Antonio Davis to Chicago. He's not staying. Not that it matters since Davis is going to get bought out but how do you figure Davis is better than Thomas??? Now you're just plain making stuff up to justify this bad deal!</div> Well, Larry isn?t the President of Basketball Operations ? Isiah is. Isiah said it himself he has no intentions of letting Davis go. He said he?ll give him a few days to be with his family in Chicago, but he has to be back shortly after. How do I figure Davis is better than Thomas? I hope you know I mean Tim Thomas; not Kurt Thomas. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And you have said it yourself Curry and Sweetney are about equal. So what kind of sense does it make to trade for Curry when he may have serious issues?</div> How about potential? Curry is a guy from high school who is still learning while Sweetney went to college. They might be about the same now, but in 2-3 years from now, there could be a big difference. Like it or not, Sweetney?s potential is limited because he?s a 6?8? power forward. In this day and age, athletic power forwards are taking the league by storm and it was evident last year when Sweetney couldn?t stay in front of his man without fouling. Sweetney averages 3 fouls in 20 minutes. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nevermind the fact Sweetney would have been cheaper(by the way it's pretty hard for a player to leave when their a restricted free agent just thought you should know)and we would have been able to hang onto our expiring contract and draft picks. Isiah will probably trade Penny too if for no other reason than to do something since that jackass cant sit still for a few months without doing something stupid.</div> I know restricted free agents are hard to sign, but I feel the most we could give him would be the qualifying offer. After hearing all those trade rumors, Sweetney wouldn?t want to stay either. He?ll go to a place where he can get paid or play more. I loved Sweetney?s game, but I think this could be a good thing for us. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Curry has been in the league for four years now so its not too surprising he's averaging 15ppg. He cant rebound and he cant defend which is two things that a good center mustbe able to do.</div> But Curry was a high schooler while Sweetney was a college junior. There?s a big difference. Curry can?t defend, but neither can Sweetney. Curry is a slightly below average rebounder, but he can learn. Remember, this guy is still young and he?s still learning. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The reason why the trade was lousy is because Curry simply doesnt help all that much. Scoring wasnt really a problem. The Knicks biggest problem last season was defense. Curry doesnt play defense so he's no help in that regard.</div> The Knicks never had a post scorer except Sweetney who scored there for 8 points a game. The Knicks defense suffered because their lack of big men. Their tallest big man was a 6?9? Kurt Thomas. Now with Frye, James, and Curry ? three players all 6?11? and above ? the Knicks are going to be better defensively. I also think we?re going to keep Davis and if that?s the case, our defense will get even better on the interior. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">A bright spot for the Knicks was rebounding. We've traded away nearly all of our good rebounders. We wont get as many second chance opportunities as we got last season and we're going to probably give up alot of second chance points.</div> How was rebounding a bright spot for the Knicks last season? We were 22nd in the league last season in RPG. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In the end Sweetney and Curry are pretty similiar players. The biggest difference is that Sweetney is far and away a better rebounder. Sweetney could end up being just as good as Curry in terms of scoring as well as a superior rebounder. When you throw in the fact that Curry may have serious heart issues, a questionable work ethic, and is more expensive then it starts looking like a bad deal. Then when you throw in the draft picks and expiring contract it starts to look even worse.</div> Yeah, they?re similar it?s just Curry is still learning. If Curry went to college than some of the mistakes he?s made in his career wouldn?t have happened. It?s all a learning process and fortunately he can learn from one of the best post players and one of the best coaches. And Curry doesn?t have any serious heart issues. They said he wasn?t in any more risk as any other player in the league. Draft picks really don?t matter. We have our young core set and if we don?t make the playoffs, we have a lottery-protected pick.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting michiganave17:</div><div class="quote_post">Congrats Ny I cant wait until the bulls play the Knicks. I dont know why all of the knicks fans have been crying. You guys got a hell of a deal. I kind of hate that we werent able to keep Curry but maybe brown can make your squad work. You guys have alot of talent on your team and if you could play together youd be dangerous. Maybe curry was the missing piece. GL NY!</div> We're not crying. The only knicks fan that hates the deal is tribute to h20. I like the trade because of Curry's potential and Davis' experience and presence. I agree with the pieces thing. I think Isiah has added good players to the areas in which they needed help. They needed size so they added frye, curry, james, and davis. They needed a backup pg so they added Nate. They needed a healthy shooter so they added q-rich. They needed a good coach to lead a rebuilding team so they added LB. The Knicks have had one of the best offseasons.
