Baron Davis Shot Happy?

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  1. bballer768484

    bballer768484 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Don't get me wrong i am really psyched up about this upcoming warriors season with all the promise they showed at the end of the season last year, but i must worry in his carrer Baron Davis is prone to getting a little shot happy at times and his prone getting injured throughout his career. This has me a little worried because i don't see the warriors being able to come out of the west if Baron plays in less than 75 percent of the games, unless the high schooler Monta Eliis is there ready to pick up the slack.
     
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    Baron has more upside than downside. I mean think of it this way, sure there may be some problems, would you rather not have him? Of course not. Without Baron, even the thought of a winning % this year would be laughable.
     
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    I am not worried about it at all. He is our best player, he should be taking the most shots. He is not selfish. He gets his teammates involved and makes them better. That is like saying we made a trade for Kobe or Shaq, but we are worried about them getting shot happy. Do you realize Davis was averaging over 8 assists per game. I am SOOOO fine with that from a PG...

    I think he will score over 25ppg and average 9.5 assists per game this season...
     
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    I think it will be 20-10
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it will be 20-10</div>

    He almost averaged 20pts when he was hurt. I think he will average at least 22-24ppg...I think it will be closer to 26...

    In 03-04 he averaged a career high 22.9ppg. I think he will be right there if not higher because of the team we have...
     
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    He is our man, he is THE man. He needs to take as many shots as he feels necessary.[​IMG] Our chances of winning sky rocket with this guy on our team, I'll take my chances.
     
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    What's sad is what the team was doing just before the trade was made. Do you guys remember how bad we were right before Baron?

    That stretch of games was my low point last year.

    Baron is a rare breed of player who makes the players around him better. His volatility could be a problem, if things don't go well, but it's a risk worth taking.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting mylie10:</div><div class="quote_post">What's sad is what the team was doing just before the trade was made. Do you guys remember how bad we were right before Baron?

    That stretch of games was my low point last year.

    Baron is a rare breed of player who makes the players around him better. His volatility could be a problem, if things don't go well, but it's a risk worth taking.</div>I never expected that kind of turn around after Davis arrived. I knew he would improve our team but the way he just carried them on his back and made the whole squad better was amazing. The Arena was electric all the way to the end.
     
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    It comes down to finally having a player that will take the final shot and not to mention someone that will get the call from the refs. I will take my chances with Baron than with our previous point guard speedy.
     
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    Baron is clutch and he isn't afraid to take shots. It's what an all-star does.

    I loved it when he hit the buzzer beater with the gay Bruce Bowen up on him. And Baron started talkin **** or something lol. He's awesome.
     
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    Er. So far, I am happy with Davis' shot selection. Sure, he is very trigger happy at 3 pts line, and I would like him to cut it to at least 5, instead of 7-9 per game. But, one thing I like about him is that he knows how to involve the team, would rather pass then hoist a shot for his own 2 pts, and most of his shots comes from driving to the basket, instead of handling the ball for 20 seconds followed by 18 fts fade away. Other players know that if they are open, they will most likely get a ball for open jumper or layup. That's why Foyle looked much more alerted with Davis, and players like Pietrus and Dunleavy imporoved their shootings significantly.

    Davis will never be Nash type of PG, and his shooting % will always hover 40%. But, he knows how to involve teammates, and other teammates are responding it. For that, he is doing his duty as PG...
     
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    "I want to help him finish in the top five in the NBA in scoring," Davis said after Friday's practice in Hawaii. "He has that ability and is one of the most unselfish stars that I have ever played with during my career."
    http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/training_...aily_diary.html_camp_05_daily_diary.html
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">"I want to help him finish in the top five in the NBA in scoring," Davis said after Friday's practice in Hawaii. "He has that ability and is one of the most unselfish stars that I have ever played with during my career."
    http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/training_...aily_diary.html_camp_05_daily_diary.html</div>

    That is pretty optimistic. If Jrich is in the top 5 in the NBA in scoring, he will surely be an all star...
     
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    hopefully he won't launch as many threes(or our whole team for that matter) because he will be a whole lot healthier. But if he does that's when Monty needs to pull the reigns in. Of course I'm not too optimistic about that since he let Fish have the green light all year.
     
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    Yea I really hated when Davis would start firing 3's. I obviously don't mind the 3's when he is open, but it is those 3's when he is guarded and he just throws it up. I mean he does make some of them but he is so good at getting in the paint and creating I just hate to see him settle for the 3's. But he could do whatever the hell he wants. haha
     
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    Thats how I feel also. He's our only chance, so I ain't gonna complain about it.
     
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    Couple of things:

    1. I think CohanHater makes a key point here, I was reading this thread hoping someone would put this quote in.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">"I want to help him finish in the top five in the NBA in scoring," Davis said after Friday's practice in Hawaii. "He has that ability and is one of the most unselfish stars that I have ever played with during my career."
    http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/training_...aily_diary.html_camp_05_daily_diary.html</div>
    Baron has been in this league long enough to know a few things. He knows that it takes more than one star to be a contender. He knows that you get more respect putting up very good numbers on a very good team than great numbers on a bad team. And he knows that the Warriors have enough talented scorers that he needs to go back to being a pass first pg.

    While Baron was always a scoring pg, he wasn't always a shoot first pg. That only happened in the last two years he was in Charlotte/New Orleans. From 2000-2003, when he had taleneted scorers like Jamaal Mashburn and Greg Weasley, he didn't need to shoot as much (about 16 shots per game). The last two years Mashburn was always injured, Weasley was less effective, and Baron was left to carry the team offensively. That's when he started shooting 20 times a game, including 9 3-point attempts.

    Now that he's with the Warriors, he's surrounded by more talent on offense than he ever had with the Hornets. And, believe it or not, he's with an owner that MORE of a commitment to winning than his last owner (George Shinn is really the East's answer to Donald Sterling). The team wants to win, and Baron knows he needs to play team ball for them to win.

    2. While Baron has had injury problems the last few years, he was actually very healthy earlier in his career. In his first three years with the Hornets, he didn't miss a single game. It's the last three that have been a problem. Last year was the worst with him only playing 46 games, but I have a feeling a lot of it had to do with Baron wanting to be traded and not wanting to rush himself back before he was ready.

    While I don't think he'll ever be the type of player to play 80-82 games a year, I certainly think he can play 70-75 games if he doesn't have a major injury. The Warriors have enough pgs and enough firepower on offense that I'd never chalk the 10-15 games Baron missed as automatic L's.
     
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    I'd be happy with 70-75 games of Baron.
     
  19. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Detailed insight, Wtwalker. But one thing, "George Shinn is really the East's answer to Donald Sterling"? You figure with L.A., even with the Lakers dominating the market share for basketball in that area, it would still be better than New Orleans or Charlotte. Is the market even that big in New Orleans? To me those areas seem to be the equivalent of putting a team in Memphis or Vancouver. I just think there is no equivalent for Donald Sterling. The guy will go to a losing game smiling, eating popcorn and not giving a dump about the fans. And our owner, Chris Cohan, at least he's got the dignity and pride to duck out of the arena, until the Warriors start winning again. I guess we'll be seeing more Cohan this year, sweater draped around his neck and all. Good for him now that third time's the charm.
     

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