<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Crywalker:</div><div class="quote_post">I guess she is pretty attractive when she isn't sporting those bruises around her eye. Man, that was a joke from way-back. I remember when I was watching one of those ECF games when the Nets were in town, and people were selling wife beaters on the street with Kidd's number and name painted on 'em. Those were classic. Good ol' lightbulb head, great for a gag.</div> ahh....no the classic thing was the middle finger salute he gave Boston fans at the end of game 6 in the '02 conference finals, after he sent Walker and PP home for the summer. Good Ol' Jason always making light work of lesser Atlantic Division foes. Its just to easy for him in this division!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting wuckingfanker:</div><div class="quote_post">i heard jefferson was a queer</div> There is no reason for a response like that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">ahh....no the classic thing was the middle finger salute he gave Boston fans at the end of game 6 in the '02 conference finals, after he sent Walker and PP home for the summer. Good Ol' Jason always making light work of lesser Atlantic Division foes. Its just to easy for him in this division!</div> Yep, class of the NBA that guy. In Boston, we tend to excoriate players who go so far as to insult an entire arena of us fans who happen to pay the players salary, but hey, no love lost. We're equal to it. By the way, and this isn't meant as an insult to anyone, is he white or black? I know he's from Oakland, but listening to that guy talk, I mean c'mon, who's he kidding? I guess he must've attended the Joe Dumars school for Talking Like a White Guy. As for lesser Atlantic division foes, I suppose he could get the last laugh once in a while if he had the motivation to stick out a full 82 games one of these years. And talk about a closer too huh? Where was he in the fourth quarter of that game 3? And what've the Nets done for you lately pal? I hope you're not banking on them returning to their former glory this year, I think you'll be in for a bit of a surprise. And when I say 'former glory,' I use that term loosely, because as I recall, that 'glory' resulted in a total of how many NBA titles? I do believe the total figure, all said and done, was, and still is, and will remain, zero. But who's counting? But enough bickering, I just enjoy getting the old blood pumping once in a while. And believe me, I know who the class of the Atlantic is this year, I just look forward to some heavily attended and interesting matchups later this season. It'll be fun.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Crywalker:</div><div class="quote_post"> As for lesser Atlantic division foes, I suppose he could get the last laugh once in a while if he had the motivation to stick out a full 82 games one of these years. </div> Actually RJ already had an 82 games season 03-04. The year prior he played 80 and the year prior to that 79...This guy is not injury prone, and I think that he has already had his last laugh, and hopefully more to come.
The Nets are going to run away with the Atlantic this year, and if they do have a little competition, it'll be from Philly or NY not Boston. So I don't really know why you're gloating. Boston's glory days ended years ago so wuit bringing up the past. Btw, how can you even criticize Kidd for flippin' Boston the Birdie. The way they were treating him was terrible, and nobody should have to go through that, especially when his kid is in the arena. Sure it was terrible what Kidd did to his wife, but did those Boston fans actually think they had more class with the way they acted?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting xpehbamxyu:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually RJ already had an 82 games season 03-04. The year prior he played 80 and the year prior to that 79...This guy is not injury prone, and I think that he has already had his last laugh, and hopefully more to come.</div> I was referring to Jason Kidd and not Richard Jefferson, I have the utmost respect for RJ as an individual and a professional, and I thoroughly enjoy watching him play the game of basketball. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">The Nets are going to run away with the Atlantic this year, and if they do have a little competition, it'll be from Philly or NY not Boston. So I don't really know why you're gloating. Boston's glory days ended years ago so wuit bringing up the past. Btw, how can you even criticize Kidd for flippin' Boston the Birdie. The way they were treating him was terrible, and nobody should have to go through that, especially when his kid is in the arena. Sure it was terrible what Kidd did to his wife, but did those Boston fans actually think they had more class with the way they acted?</div> I don't recall saying anything about Boston competing for the Atlantic, as a matter of fact, I believe what I was doing was deferring that honor to the Nets. As for the distinction of class, while I'm no one to judge, I do have some sense of honor when it comes to my dealing with women. By NO means do I consider Boston fans to be classier than any living thing on the planet. They're fickle, annoying, overly loud, mostly drunk, horribly opinionated, and sometimes excessive to the point of violent, not to mention boorish and arrogant. That being said, defending Jason Kidd's actions in regards to his wife and child is a little far-fetched. What you insinuated was that Boston fans were less classy than Jason Kidd because they ridiculed him in front of his wife and child. That to me reeks of irony, as you appear to be defending the actions of a domestic abuser and known wife batterer. What he did was beyond moral defense, especially one so loosely defined as 'class.' For the sake of this argument, I will not pretend to know what class is, and rather use the well-known defense of former Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart and say, "I know it when I see it." I believe what the Boston fans were doing was heckling a man who battered the woman he was married to. Were I there for those games, I'm sure I would have done the same, and felt woefully self-righteous about the whole thing. And why? Because, in my eyes (and they are only mine after all), a man who abuses his wife has waived his right to the common decency afforded the usual superstar in his position by being morally bankrupt and reprehensible. Does this mean I dislike the company of all those that abuse their spouses, and believe that they should be subject to the scrutiny of the disapproving eye of the american public? Yes, as a matter of fact, I do. Being a firm believer in the court of public dissent, Jason Kidd's was an especially open and shut case. He was subject to little to no legal ramification, which is often the case, so I won't hold that against him, but being a superstar, and having his life under a general microscope as it is, he was more than subject to his fair share of ridicule. The thing that bothers me most about these instances, especially the one you've brought up virve, is that you invoke the name of his child to make your point. What of the times he assaulted his child's mother in front of said child? And worse yet, what of the news given to youthful fans of Jason Kidd's all over the country? I, personally, was crushed when my sports hero, a man known only as "Sweetness," died. But to have the image of your hero spurned and spit upon by every Average John Q Public, because of something you may or may not understand, that hurts. The respect I lost for Jason Kidd in that instance was vast, but not unfounded, and nothing compared to the number of young individuals, basketball fans in the end, that lost a hero. There were more than enough that I know personally, for that to be a serious issue. And more than that, the fact that fans come rushing to his side, merely because his jersey says "New Jersey," on the front, rather than realizing in their own minds that what transpired was pretty awful. Nevertheless, all this is ancient history, and he has more than paid his dues, and his wife is seemingly very happy with her husband and children, so who can complain? I am very glad that Kidd was more than up to the task of clearing his name and more overly, patching his family life up. More power to him for that. I would also like to apologize for going so far off topic, I won't be baited into this again. And just so we're clear, I didn't mean baited in the online forum sense of the word, just that I couldn't resist, and for that I'm sorry.
Your right since signing his new deal Kidd hasnt played a full 82......but at the end of the day,when he is on the court whether its 65 games(like last year) or a full 82....dude is the all-around best player at his position, so everything else is pretty much a non-factor....because we are fans, not friends or family members of none of these dudes in the NBA...So we dont really no what they are really like personally. As far as accepting or defending Kidd in his situation with his wife...you wont get that from me...There is never a reason to put your hands on a female...but because he had personal issues does that make him less of a ball play? And that was like 5 years ago, but you are speaking on it like it was yesterday. His wife didnt leave, so why you care so much? Anyway, back to on-court issues, you asked what has New Jersey done for me lately? Honestly, I should be asking you that very same question, we are talking about a Celtics franchise that hasnt really been a championship competive team since Larry Bird's back went out 15 years ago. Anyway, you have Brian Scalabrine now, so its the return of the Larry Bird era for the Celtics in 05-06. Also no need to apologize, no disrespect to Allnet but the original topic was just as pointless, I know he isnt the biggest of Nets' fan either, from the Piston/Nets battles over the past 3/4 years...oh also the fact that his boy Tayshawn Prince has been abused to the point of embrassment to alot of Piston fans by Richard Jefferson in several playoff series in the past, doesnt help the situation.....but its all competive love.
You're tight crywalker, what Kidd did was terrible, and in no way am I trying to defend him, as he probably did deserve the boos. What was absolutely classless was that some of the fans were saying horrible things to Jumana and TJ, and I believe that that is what Kidd was complaining about. If they want to boo Kidd for that, go ahead, but leave his wife and kid out of it. Anyway, you're also right that we are both off topic, but based on the name of this thread being about people's suspicions of RJ, I think everyone is a little.
Good point, and as for the thread, I could care less if RJ is gay, or if he isn't, or anything in between, I love his game, and that's all that matter in my book.
