Kings: 2 of the Most Overated Players in the League

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  1. Brasco

    Brasco JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">#2 ? Peja Stojakovic
    Peja can shoot the lights out as long as no one's in his face ? and as long as a ballgame isn't on the line. His defense is abysmal, and too many of his passes are up for grabs. But Peja's shortcomings are much more evident in the playoffs than they are in the regular season. Granted that the competition is at a higher level in postseason games, Peja's comparative stats are alarming: </div>

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">#3 ? Shareef Abdur-Rahim
    This guy's been in the league for nine years and, despite his otherwise impressive numbers, has never come close to playing on a winning team. Indeed, the cumulative record of Abdur-Rahim's NBA employers shows a winning percentage of less than 40 percent. As the venerable Hubie Brown always says, "Beware of guys who put up good numbers on bad teams."

    Why is this so? Because players on inferior teams have no pressure to succeed and gifted players on bad teams get more touches and more shots than they would on a contending team.

    So it is that Abdur-Rahim, while a talented low-post scorer, needs lots of one-on-one spacing and one-on-one time to do his damage. His efforts, then, tend to make spectators of his teammates.</div>

    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4979342

    so does this mean the kings are one of the most over rated teams also?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lamont:</div><div class="quote_post">http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/4979342

    so does this mean the kings are one of the most over rated teams also?</div>


    No. Why would it? Just because a writer writes that about two Kings players (not saying that it isn't true or anything) how would it mean that the Knigs are over-rated? They have won 50+ for a lot of years in a row. They are not considered up there with the Spurs, because of there defense. So I don't think The kings, as a team, are over-rated.
     
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    The Shareef thing kind of scares me because it's true. I never really thought about it, but you cant fault SAR for doing good on a bad team, like he cant dictate where he plays and he shouldnt be able to with the amount of money he's making.
     
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    "Peja can shoot the lights out as long as no one's in his face..."

    I thought the opposite was true? I remember reading an article about his teammates telling the opposition to get in his face when he shoots because he shoots better that way.
     
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    A sportswriter said it, take it with a grain of salt. The only thing i think REALLY rings true about Peja is the way he plays in the postseason. He played fairly well against the Sonics in the playoffs, although he was inconsistent. Shareef is a good player who just isnt a leader. Thats pretty much that. :EDIT: This writer has Elton Brand in his "dishonorable mention" list. To me this means disregard the article.
     
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    i dont think you can say the kings are overrated becasue no one really rates them that high to begin with. this will be an interesting year for them. they have talent and should be fun to watch. not sure if they're defense will hold up though.
    dont put too much faith in the article though. charley rosen takes a negative spin on everything. all he writes about is negatives of everyone and everything. he's got some kind of psychological problems. seriously.
     
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    ^ right on about Charlie Rosen.
     
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    so what?

    Just a few of the other guys who have "done good on a bad team":

    Baron Davis
    Vince Carter
    Allen Iverson
    Tracy McGrady
    Jason Kidd
    Antawn Jamison
    Gary Payton
    Paul Pierce
    ...
     
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    Maybe we overrate them sometimes since they're on our team but common, top 3 on the league?
     
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    It's true about Peja being overrated. He can't create shots or make them while guarded. The reason why Peja is shooting a lower % is because the absence of Webber and Divac. He has no one bulky to come off the screen and shoot. Kings should trade him if they were smart, knowing them they won't. SAR hasnt' had much of a chance because the lack of a supporting cast. But 9 years and no real team improvement kinda says something.
     
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    I'm a SAR fan because he played for the blazers and acted in a classy manner the entire time despite playing behind Zach randolph. I have witnessed first hand tho many a time shareef stall the offense while he dribbles around and such. He's good, but he will not support a free flowing offense of the kings
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting phunDamentalz:</div><div class="quote_post">Just a few of the other guys who have "done good on a bad team":

    Baron Davis
    Vince Carter
    Allen Iverson
    Tracy McGrady
    Jason Kidd
    Antawn Jamison
    Gary Payton
    Paul Pierce
    ...</div>
    Umm, all of those guys have gone to at least the second round of the playoffs, with the exception of McGrady.

    We're talking about a Shareef Abdur-Rahim whose teams have never even come close to making the playoffs. Of course one has to wonder his true ability.
     
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    I dont remember Carter going to the 2nd round of the playoffs with the Raptors.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shootingmachine:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont remember Carter going to the 2nd round of the playoffs with the Raptors.</div>


    it was an unbelieveable series w/ carter and AI trading 40 pt efforts came down to a final shot that VC missed from 3


    http://www.nba.com/playoffs2001/
     
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    After watching Jason Terry perform in the playoffs last year, it makes me realize just how much SAR was holding him back in ATL.

    As for Peja, the man is a lot like Sheed. You might as well flip a coin to tell you how he's going to do on any given night. But then again, that applies to the whole Kings franchise.
     

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