Baron Davis: Most Overated Player in the League

well rudeezy, i happen to agree with Lamont. I believe he is overrated, at times he makes his players better and can have an impact, but this year they are already o-2 and baron davis shoots too much.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bballer768484:</div><div class="quote_post">This guy knows exactly what is up with Baron Davis, speak the truth , speak the truth. Baron Davis is so overated</div>

How can you, as a GSW fan, say that? Must be a Hornets fan in disguise. Or Charley Rosen.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bballer768484:</div><div class="quote_post">well rudeezy, i happen to agree with Lamont. I believe he is overrated, at times he makes his players better and can have an impact, but this year they are already o-2 and baron davis shoots too much.</div>1. They aren't 0-2, they beat the lakers in the second half of a back to back.
2. It is the preseason, saying he is overrated because the Warriors lost a couple games in preseason is almost as ridiculous as calling him overrated.
3. The Warriors were 14-5 when he started last year. That is impact.
4. He averaged double digits in assists with the Warriors. That is unselfishness.

I don't mind you believing he is overrated, everyone is entitled to their own opinions but make some valid points to back it up.

 

Just about all superstars get blamed by their fans for shooting to much, or taking bad shots, etc. Their superstars, so their allowed to make decisions that some of us don't agree with. But we all agree that they should be given the freedom to do so. I know Monty is thankful B-Diddy is around to take the tough shots that most guys are afraid to.

 

What you get from B Diddy may not be consistent output, but I'm sure he gives you his 110% every time he's on the floor. The guy battles to the death. All you really can ask for from any baller is to give it max effort and max heart out there, when they're on the floor.

I don't see B. Diddy as being overrated at all. If you've watched enough games to see why the teams that he's on lose a ball game, its because the other players don't show up, not B. Diddy.

 

I may have thought Baron was overrated before he came here, but now I know just from his presence he brought here that he is for real. Most of the times I say a team or a player is overrated I end up eating my own words. Hopefully this guy will too...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">I may have thought Baron was overrated before he came here, but now I know just from his presence he brought here that he is for real. Most of the times I say a team or a player is overrated I end up eating my own words. Hopefully this guy will too...</div>

It's hard to follow the NBA when you're in the U.S. Air Force or any branch of military service, but I remember you didn't quite know if Baron Davis could dunk. He's Stevie Francis, but with pure point guard playmaking skills and more 3 point attempts and injuries.

 

I got a clip of Baron making a game winning dunk against the Pistons, if anyone wants And did you guys see his dunk on Jermaine O'Neil in 2004? That was freaking awesome. I remember there were captions below the highlight that said "Jermaine O'Neil, meet Baron Davis."

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">It's hard to follow the NBA when you're in the U.S. Air Force or any branch of military service, but I remember you didn't quite know if Baron Davis could dunk. He's Stevie Francis, but with pure point guard playmaking skills and more 3 point attempts and injuries.</div>



Its true...

 

Some years back I felt Baron was overrated-and maybe Warrior fans overrate him a bit-but he joined a team that was under 40% and suddenly they played at a 60% clip,basically on a par with some of the top contenders. He's a bit quick to fire a 3 at times but overall,a keeper,a star,a catalyst. He's not Magic Johnson but is WAY better than Bimbo Coles. Gasol,Brand?I dunno....who rates them and where? I see both as at the edge of the top 20-25 in the league,which ain't bad. I'd tend to see Jefferson as a bit underrated outside the NY area.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">I got a clip of Baron making a game winning dunk against the Pistons, if anyone wants And did you guys see his dunk on Jermaine O'Neil in 2004? That was freaking awesome. I remember there were captions below the highlight that said "Jermaine O'Neil, meet Baron Davis."</div>

I think every Warrior fan has that clip now that Bdiddy is blue and gold.

That was embarassing for JO to have a 6'3 dude rise up over his 6'11, 240 something frame and just throw it down on top of his dome. Oh well, it happens to any big man committed to defense. I think it happened to Shaq like once or twice, but he pretty much gets out of the way ahead of time nowadays. He stopped playing defense a long time ago actually.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting REREM:</div><div class="quote_post">Some years back I felt Baron was overrated-and maybe Warrior fans overrate him a bit-but he joined a team that was under 40% and suddenly they played at a 60% clip,basically on a par with some of the top contenders. He's a bit quick to fire a 3 at times but overall,a keeper,a star,a catalyst. He's not Magic Johnson but is WAY better than Bimbo Coles. Gasol,Brand?I dunno....who rates them and where? I see both as at the edge of the top 20-25 in the league,which ain't bad. I'd tend to see Jefferson as a bit underrated outside the NY area.</div>

I thought RJ was pretty good. He's gotten better every single year and he's improved his shot and his dribbling. He was always a good defensive guy. He'll probably never be able to deliver anything consistently from beyond the arc, though. He's at least floating around 30-35% now, which is decent. He could probably play some guard nowadays.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Must be a Hornets fan in disguise. Or Charley Rosen.</div>
I think the only thing those two things have in common is that you feel sorry for both.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting bballer768484:</div><div class="quote_post">well rudeezy, i happen to agree with Lamont. I believe he is overrated, at times he makes his players better and can have an impact, but this year they are already o-2 and baron davis shoots too much.</div>

First, as Rudeezy mentioned, we are 1-2. Also, if we played starters more in first game, we would have been 2-1, since Warriors starters basically dominated Lakers starters. Also, in Kings game, only Davis and Murphy suited up to play, and he was the only one who tried to carry the team on the back despite it was the only preseason game. If anybody saw 3 preseason games, you can easily say that the with or without Davis is basically the day and the night.

Second, Davis is not Stockton or Nash. But that doesn't mean he is a selfish PG, who doesn't know how to involve the team. Besides obvious 18-10 and 14-5 as a starter last season, all Warriors players, except Richardson, had considerably better stats with Davis. If Davis is a selfish player, how in the world this can be described? Why Pietrus basically doubled his stats while playing similar mins? How about Dunleavy and his 50% from the field and 40% from the 3 pts? Or Murphy and his 45% fg from 40%? And, the only reason Richardson's stats dropped a bit is because he became 2nd option, instead of first option. If Davis is a selfish player, shouldn't their stats dipped instead?

Yes, Davis would like to put up a show, and if he has a choice, he would rather throw bit risky pass for slam dunk then plain layup. And, that could be described as selfish to some people especially when things are not going right. In Hornets, it might have not been too successful, because none of Wesley, Mashburn, Brown or Magloire are known as high-flyer. But in here, Richardson and Pietrus can fly all over the place and make Davis look better as we already saw in last year and little bit in preseason...

 

Kwan, I'm glad you answered it detailed and seriously for those that believe that Baron is not overrated. Thank you. It's one thing to say he's underrated/overrated/or right on the mark, but you provided good examples so we can all relate. Thank you. I just don't like it when peeps write, "IMO he's not that good or he's totally good" and there's no real justification other than preseason or "because I think so". To me that's a bit of weak justification and it doesn't really help the forum educate or inform others or challenge ideas when there's no sound reasoning or proof/evidence to back one's opinions/perceptions up.

 

Hehe, thanks.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">I got a clip of Baron making a game winning dunk against the Pistons, if anyone wants And did you guys see his dunk on Jermaine O'Neil in 2004? That was freaking awesome. I remember there were captions below the highlight that said "Jermaine O'Neil, meet Baron Davis."</div>

can you post that?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Mister Jennings:</div><div class="quote_post">can you post that?</div>

Most certainly

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/jamesy...inning_Dunk.mpg

 

bballer stop with the garbage or is this a sick joke by charlie rosen with these retarded opinions. Baron is a playmaker and a leader. 14-5 as a starter and the Hornets are nothing wihtout him, look at them now. Luckily they got a replacement for him in Paul.