<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JWohl:</div><div class="quote_post">You are saying a lot of things but all I'm hearing is that you are still bitter about Shaq leaving the Lakers and having huge amounts of success.</div> Bitter? I am glad Shaq is gone, he was a overweight slug with a toe problem that took up too much cap space and was battling age preventing the Lakers from getting anyone else. I'll admit that i was sore about Shaq leaving the Lakers, but then after long thought I realized that it was the best move. Kobe is much younger, talented, cheaper, and willing to win. Anyway Kobe has matured more than you guys think. He has now moved on and Shaq still shows signs he is not fond of Kobe. I think Kobe will better represent the US than Shaq. Even if Shaq went, do you think he'll play?? He'll probably complain about some hang nail or a constipation problem permitting him to plant his butt on the bench.
Why would anyone be bitter about shaq leaving? No one wanted him so hes gone and traded..I dont see him with a ring without kobe? He is immature (always saying comments *low blows at kobe) and waaay past his prime. His time to win a ring is running out he is getting slower and slower each season..Plus they wont want him in Team USA same reason they didnt want him in the lakers. Kobe > Shaq
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting amador08:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would anyone be bitter about shaq leaving? No one wanted him so hes gone and traded..I dont see him with a ring without kobe? He is immature (always saying comments *low blows at kobe) and waaay past his prime. His time to win a ring is running out he is getting slower and slower each season..Plus they wont want him in Team USA same reason they didnt want him in the lakers. Kobe > Shaq </div> Yeah... Amen Rev...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheTruth5:</div><div class="quote_post">This is great news for our team, Kobe Bryant is one of the SUPERstars we need to advance and win in the olympics. Good to see Kobe has respect for Mike Krzyzewski, it will be fun to see Mike coach Kobe. With Kobe being on the USA olympic team hopefully more superstars will follow and be a part of it. The Olympics is a huge/important thing and Kobe on the team will defenitely improve the squad.</div> All we needed was consistent outside shooting...Kobe will provide. Are you saying AI and TD aren't superstars? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't want Shaq to play anyway, he'd make America look bad. OH yeah and when they go to the Olympics, they can't have any luxuries that take their minds away from the game like when the US team was chillin on a yacht an d soaking it up when they should of been practicing.</div> BS. In the 2000 Olympics I remember them having footage of everyone just chillin and having fun. That's what the Olympics are about.. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">Bitter? I am glad Shaq is gone, he was a overweight slug with a toe problem that took up too much cap space and was battling age preventing the Lakers from getting anyone else. I'll admit that i was sore about Shaq leaving the Lakers, but then after long thought I realized that it was the best move. Kobe is much younger, talented, cheaper, and willing to win. Anyway Kobe has matured more than you guys think. He has now moved on and Shaq still shows signs he is not fond of Kobe. I think Kobe will better represent the US than Shaq. Even if Shaq went, do you think he'll play?? He'll probably complain about some hang nail or a constipation problem permitting him to plant his butt on the bench.</div> Overweight slug that opened up the court for Kobes. Who happened to average 25+ppg, w/ 10+ rpg. Preventing the Lakers from getting anyone else? Who did they need? They had a championship squad, but Lord Bryant messed everything up with his power struggle. It was Shaq's team and you know it, Shaq can instantly bring success to any team he's on, and make them a title contender with another All Star by his side. How many players nowadays can do that? KG? TD? That's about all too.. Complain about a hangnail...? That joke was...subpar. I'd like to see you play in the playoffs with a deep thigh bruise and maintain intensity. BUT, I will admit after reading a lot of Kobe's quotes, he has matured and realizes that carrying a team is much harder than it seems. I wish him the best of luck. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting amador08:</div><div class="quote_post">Why would anyone be bitter about shaq leaving? No one wanted him so hes gone and traded..I dont see him with a ring without kobe? He is immature (always saying comments *low blows at kobe) and waaay past his prime. His time to win a ring is running out he is getting slower and slower each season..Plus they wont want him in Team USA same reason they didnt want him in the lakers. Kobe > Shaq </div> Shaq w/ new team = Eastern Conference Finals. Kobe w/o Shaq = Early vacation.
You know what I'm talkin about. Shaq sits out for the smallest little things. You know where the Lakers would financially be if Shaq would of stayed in the long run?! They would be way over the salary cap after Shaq's deal would expire. While Shaq is old and suffering from arthritis and baby toe problems (poor guy....), the Lakers will be trying to pay off Shaq's surreal salary demands. Playoff intensity? Shaq didn't play with alot of "intensity" as you say. He and the Heat couldn't get it done. Wade had a worse injury and Shaq and played twice as better. Given Wade's size and speed, it's obvious but still.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">Bitter? I am glad Shaq is gone, he was a overweight slug with a toe problem that took up too much cap space and was battling age preventing the Lakers from getting anyone else. </div> Nope, doesnt sound bitter to me <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even if Shaq went, do you think he'll play?? He'll probably complain about some hang nail or a constipation problem permitting him to plant his butt on the bench.</div> I apolagize for accusing you of being bitter
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">You know what I'm talkin about. Shaq sits out for the smallest little things. You know where the Lakers would financially be if Shaq would of stayed in the long run?! They would be way over the salary cap after Shaq's deal would expire. While Shaq is old and suffering from arthritis and baby toe problems (poor guy....), the Lakers will be trying to pay off Shaq's surreal salary demands. Playoff intensity? Shaq didn't play with alot of "intensity" as you say. He and the Heat couldn't get it done. Wade had a worse injury and Shaq and played twice as better. Given Wade's size and speed, it's obvious but still.</div> Angry huh? Shaqqy poo didn't play with intensity? Oh, so then he won the Finals MVP's with 50% effort? The Heat couldn't get it done? Hmm..I guess Kobe watching the series on TNT was closer to 'getting it done' then...
Does it really matter how far you got? Lossing is lossing you know what your called when you get in 2nd place or 3rd place?.. A losser.. so plz dont bash lakers for not making playoffs last year their future is bright aswell as kobes and all I am stating is that Shaq is way past his prime and they wouldnt want him in TEAM USA anyways.
you know losing Shaq was not the entire reason why the lakers sucked last year, blaming kobe was the media's idea. Remember besides Shaq leaving you have most of the role players who helped the lakers in those three dominate years (fisher, fox, payton, rush) gone, with a new squad who doesn't really know each other, and a new coach with a new style of play. During the season you lose the head coach and get a sub-par assistant coach to take over. There's more than just "shaq leaving". It's almost like the ignorance of people who keep saying "Jordan is the best basketball player ever and always will be."
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">you know losing Shaq was not the entire reason why the lakers sucked last year, blaming kobe was the media's idea. Remember besides Shaq leaving you have most of the role players who helped the lakers in those three dominate years (fisher, fox, payton, rush) gone, with a new squad who doesn't really know each other, and a new coach with a new style of play. During the season you lose the head coach and get a sub-par assistant coach to take over. There's more than just "shaq leaving". It's almost like the ignorance of people who keep saying "Jordan is the best basketball player ever and always will be."</div> Amen Rev! Devan George got injured last season kobe got injured missed over 20 games Vlade Divac got injured pfft plz even if Shaq was on the team they might not even have made playoffs he woulda missed 30+ games cuz his toe or broken nail..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting amador08:</div><div class="quote_post">Does it really matter how far you got? Lossing is lossing you know what your called when you get in 2nd place or 3rd place?.. A losser.. so plz dont bash lakers for not making playoffs last year their future is bright aswell as kobes and all I am stating is that Shaq is way past his prime and they wouldnt want him in TEAM USA anyways.</div> Do you mean 'losing'? How do you figure LA's future is bright..what star do they have that can carry the team in 5-10 years? Ohhh...so because Shaq is a couple years past his prime means he's instantly not effective anymore, I see how it is...You've got to be ridiculous, and ignorant, if you refuse to see the impact Shaq has on the game itself. As Kobe found out last season, without Shaq there's no inside presence to draw the defense in so Kobe can hit threes. I'd pick him for Team USA at age 40, purely for his leadership and experience. Plus Shaq's a fierce competitor. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">you know losing Shaq was not the entire reason why the lakers sucked last year, blaming kobe was the media's idea. Remember besides Shaq leaving you have most of the role players who helped the lakers in those three dominate years (fisher, fox, payton, rush) gone, with a new squad who doesn't really know each other, and a new coach with a new style of play. During the season you lose the head coach and get a sub-par assistant coach to take over. There's more than just "shaq leaving". It's almost like the ignorance of people who keep saying "Jordan is the best basketball player ever and always will be."</div> True, but LA wouldn't be in this situation if Kobe hadn't forced management's hand into trading away Shaq. Remember? He wanted control of his own team and he was either leaving or...and you can figure the rest out, management had no choice. But oh well now right? LA will struggle to make the playoffs the next 2 to 3 years, and by then Kobe will be on the fringe's of his prime and his time will be limited before his effectivness INSTANTLY drops off. Right? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting amador08:</div><div class="quote_post">Amen Rev! Devan George got injured last season kobe got injured missed over 20 games Vlade Divac got injured pfft plz even if Shaq was on the team they might not even have made playoffs he woulda missed 30+ games cuz his toe or broken nail..</div> Oh I see, Deavan George who hasn't averaged double figures in points in his entire career would be the deciding factor. Don't exaggerate either, Kobe missed 16 games, not 'over 20 games'. Shaq missed 9 games last season. Stop bashing him because of his success in the East.
Lakers team is considerably young your an idiot for even asking which player can carry then in 5-10 years. Shaq isnt a leader and why would Team USA Want him for experience you say?? I dont think Team USA will be needing more experience. Shaq is still great player? yes but not even close to what he was when he was with the Lakers championship run. His time is running out he aint getting any better and still hasnt won a championship without kobe even though he stats Wade is the best player in the game. No one remembers how far you got years from now either you won it or not so plz stop diving urself a grave kthnkx! =)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting amador08:</div><div class="quote_post">Lakers team is considerably young your an idiot for even asking which player can carry then in 5-10 years. </div> Learn to spell, then MAYBE you'll have earned the right to insult someone's intelligence. The Lakers team is considerably young...hmm, so that AUTOMATICALLY means they'll have a bonafide superstar in 5 to 10 years? Let me know who these guys are...Von Wafer? He was almost waived...Bynum? He's your best bet, but I wouldn't consider that a positive. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq isnt a leader and why would Team USA Want him for experience you say?? I dont think Team USA will be needing more experience. Shaq is still great player? yes but not even close to what he was when he was with the Lakers championship run. His time is running out he aint getting any better and still hasnt won a championship without kobe even though he stats Wade is the best player in the game. No one remembers how far you got years from now either you won it or not so plz stop diving urself a grave kthnkx! =)</div> Shaq isn't a leader...do you even watch basketball? Yes Shaq is still great and he's only getting older, but he still is the most dominating player on the planet. Who's gonna stop him? This is getting incredibly stupid, so I'll post a message here again in 5 years to see if Kobe has a championship by then..
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Learn to spell, then MAYBE you'll have earned the right to insult someone's intelligence.</div> This is coming from somebody who doesn't use correct grammar. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Lakers team is considerably young...hmm, so that AUTOMATICALLY means they'll have a bonafide superstar in 5 to 10 years? Let me know who these guys are...Von Wafer? He was almost waived...Bynum? He's your best bet, but I wouldn't consider that a positive.</div> I think you are forgetting that Kwame Brown will be in his peak in about 5 years. If he reaches his potential, he can carry the team for a few years into his early 30's. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq isn't a leader...do you even watch basketball? Yes Shaq is still great and he's only getting older, but he still is the most dominating player on the planet. Who's gonna stop him?</div> Well, the Piston's stopped him last season. He hasn't won anything for 3 season's now. I guess also injuries will prevent him from playing in the Olympics aswell. He has another injury now, after leaving on crutches against the Pacers. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This is getting incredibly stupid, so I'll post a message here again in 5 years to see if Kobe has a championship by then..</div> This show's your clear bias against Kobe. You only hate on the Laker's because Kobe is here. Everytime I see you are in a little war with someone, it's always about Kobe or the Lakers. I'm not going to bother post again. This is pathetic.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Laker_fan:</div><div class="quote_post">This is coming from somebody who doesn't use correct grammar.</div> Reread the post and replace 'you'll' with 'you will'. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think you are forgetting that Kwame Brown will be in his peak in about 5 years. If he reaches his potential, he can carry the team for a few years into his early 30's.</div> If he didn't do it in the East, what proves he can in the West? Oh yea, you forgot to put your 'IF' in bold, I'll do it for you. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, the Piston's stopped him last season. He hasn't won anything for 3 season's now. I guess also injuries will prevent him from playing in the Olympics aswell. He has another injury now, after leaving on crutches against the Pacers.</div> Wrong. The Pistons did not stop Shaq, they stopped the Lakers. Shaq averaged 30 a game in that series. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This show's your clear bias against Kobe. You only hate on the Laker's because Kobe is here.</div> Actually you're wrong, I started liking Kobe a few months ago, particularly his all around offensive game and hustle on the defensive end, but I do not like the man off the court, he aims to please everyone but himself with his image. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Everytime I see you are in a little war with someone, it's always about Kobe or the Lakers. I'm not going to bother post again. This is pathetic.</div> I do get into a lot of discussions with people, but how can I help it that Kobe fans are jealous of Shaq's success and so close minded that they can't admit management made a mistake by trading Shaq. Start the 5 year countdown now..
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Reread the post and replace 'you'll' with 'you will'.</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswer2:</div><div class="quote_post">Hmm..I guess Kobe watching the series on TNT was closer to 'getting it done' then...</div> I was actually refering to the random "..." you put in your posts. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If he didn't do it in the East, what proves he can in the West? Oh yea, you forgot to put your 'IF' in bold, I'll do it for you.</div> Firstly, Kwame is in a different place now, it's a new beginning. Secondly, I said he will be in his peak in about 5 years. Thirdly, everybody is an "if." You predicting Shaq winning another championship is an "if." Lastly, Kwame was not the number one option in Washington. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wrong. The Pistons did not stop Shaq, they stopped the Lakers. Shaq averaged 30 a game in that series.</div> So by saying Shaq played well mean's that they didn't beat him, but the rest of the team? That seriously doesn't make sense. By saying that, I can then say, Kobe didn't lose at all last season because he statistically had a great season. Therefore, everyone apart from Kobe lost alot of games last season. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually you're wrong, I started liking Kobe a few months ago, particularly his all around offensive game and hustle on the defensive end, but I do not like the man off the court, he aims to please everyone but himself with his image.</div> I don't understand how you can say you don't like Kobe as a person. You haven't even spoken to him to know what his personality is like. How can you make such a bold statement about his character without even speaking to him? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I do get into a lot of discussions with people, but how can I help it that Kobe fans are jealous of Shaq's success and so close minded that they can't admit management made a mistake by trading Shaq.</div> Firstly, you say that saying this: <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswer2:</div><div class="quote_post">Learn to spell, then MAYBE you'll have earned the right to insult someone's intelligence.</div> is discussing? Secondly, saying all Kobe fan's are jealous of Shaq means you suck. Please tell me what sucess he has had since he left the Lakers. He damn sure hasn't won anything. Sure, the Heat were the 3rd/4th best team in the NBA last season, but they never won anything. I seriously didn't want to get involved in this, but the points you made gave me no option but to reply back. Your last post consisted of nothing credible at all.
My point exactly Shaq is getting old and already got injured. TheAnswer I didnt know this was a spelling B contest, I was saying your an idiot when it comes to basketball which is true. I thank Kobe for getting Shaq traded they wernt going to resign him hes old and way past his prime, injured in their first game of the regular season. You gotta get smart man why would anyone be jealous of Shaq's success he hasnt won anything has he?
