Wesley needs to be punished by less minutes

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  1. tr@cy&ya0

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    Wesley seems to be getting worse and worse. He needs to play alot less. i've think wesley shouldn't play 29 minutes he should play like 10 minutes and give barry and head more minutes... so on the shooting guard position it would be wesley for 10 minutes.. then barry 10 mins ( since he gets the other 15 minutes on small foward position) and head 28 mins cause he will make rookie mistakes but as he play more he won't
     
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    I agree with you.Wesly absolutely blinded,he couldnt find the basket.
    I think JVD should give more time to Head,he has proved himself a good shooter,he has to get more time to gain more experience.
     
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    I agree that Head should be given more minutes. I mean a rookie needs the experience right? And more minutes would accomplish that. It's only that we don't have T-mac right now, so it's alittle risky to use rookies. As for Wesley, he's really not contributing right now. If only we could've traded Wesley instead of James. If anything, Head should be played in the 4th quarter, he has proven that he is clutch.
     
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    Tracy McGrady, the star of the Rockets, is injured. Before we can bench players on performances based on two games (even though he sucked in the preseason), you have to consider the circumstances.


    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wesley seems to be getting worse and worse. He needs to play alot less. i've think wesley shouldn't play 29 minutes he should play like 10 minutes and give barry and head more minutes...</div>

    1. Wesley is a FAR better defender than both Barry and Head. He could easily be the Rockets best perimeter defender, but Tracy is Tracy and Derek Anderson has size over him.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">so on the shooting guard position it would be wesley for 10 minutes.. then barry 10 mins ( since he gets the other 15 minutes on small foward position) and head 28 mins cause he will make rookie mistakes but as he play more he won't </div>

    2. Minutes cannot be divided so easily. One must consider matchups. You might play Head against a Mccants, or another Rookie, but would you seriously want him defending Richard Jefferson, Rip Hamilton, or Dwyane Wade for 28 minutes? Not only is he a rookie but he is also under-sized for a 2-guard. Yes he will make Rookie mistakes, and they might go away, but there are those players who exploit any mistakes you make.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As for Wesley, he's really not contributing right now. If only we could've traded Wesley instead of James. If anything, Head should be played in the 4th quarter, he has proven that he is clutch.</div>

    3. Our schedule is not Rookie friendly. We play Orlando at home, then go to New Jersey (to play Carter, Kidd, and Jefferson), then to Boston (to play Green, Davis, and Pierce) back to back. Then Minnesota and San Antonio on the road. Of those 5 games, those 5 teams all have players that would exploit any mental lapse we make. Head might be Clutch in the preseason, but when he's playing Bruce Bowen and Manu Ginobili, one can only be so Clutch (ahem, Mr. McGrady).

    After a hellish road trip, we get to play at home, a Pistons team with arguably the best back-court tandem in the league, and arguably the best defending back-court. Ask Luther Head and Jon Barry to defend Billups and Hamilton? I love Barry as much as the next guy, but defense is not his forte. Of course is gets worse, with the Pacers on the road, a Pacers squad which includes Tinsley, Jackson, and the infamous, Ron Artest. Maybe if we're lucky, Head hits his stride right about here, and starts averaging 15 points a game. And maybe if we're lucky, Carlisle won't play Artest. Probably not though.

    And if that doesn't rock your boxers, we have Dallas on the road, followed by Phoenix at home. Dallas being a conference and division rival, and Phoenix who shockingly maybe the easier team. After that we're back on the Road against Memphis, no doubt a division and conference rival, a revamped Memphis squad. Benching our BEST PERIMETER DEFENDER and playing a rookie for 28 minutes would see us playing Bobby Jackson, Mike Miller, and Damon Stoudamire. And maybe if Fratello gets creative, even Hakim Warrick.

    Well then you have Chicago and Atlanta at home, both teams carrying the best young talents in the league. Hinrich, Gordon, Deng, and Duhon on one side, Joe Johnson and Josh Smith on the other. Atlanta will be our last game of the month, and if all goes well, Tracy McGrady will be back in action come December 3rd.

    4. Now I really don't know about you, but handing a Rookie minutes against 13 teams, 10 of which were in the playoffs last year, (including the 4 teams in the WCF and ECF), isn't the smartest idea. Here's hoping Luther Head's clutch play, and Jon Barry's defending (or lack-there-of) pulls us through. But really, I hope they prove me wrong.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting magnomonkey:</div><div class="quote_post">Wesley is a FAR better defender than both Barry and Head. He could easily be the Rockets best perimeter defender, but Tracy is Tracy and Derek Anderson has size over him. </div>
    What Rocket team are you watching? Wesley has played HORRIBLE in every game except one (including the preseason games). Every aspect of his game has been terrible, even defense. Did you watch the Hornet game? Wesley's man blew past him like a he was a traffic guard. Right now it's easy to say he's playing the worst basketball of anybody on the team right now. My question is how long are you guys gonna keep sugarcoating it? I've stated ALL during the offseason Wesley has virtually NO role on this team. Some thought I was "stubborn" and crazy. Now that the guy isn't producing, I must say I was right in every aspect (again). Derek Anderson, Tmac, and Head are all better defenders than Wesley. If Wesley doesn't produce next game, I say Head needs to step in and take this guys spot. The only problem is Van Gundy is foolishly loyal to Wesley. This might be a problem................
     
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    Wesley is an old guy. It may just be father time.
     
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    There's a good possibility that Ryan Bowen will replace Wesley in the starting lineup for the next game to match up with Turkoglu. Van Gundy said he's the one guy he knows will play hard.
     
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    I didnt agree with completely taking away wesley's minutes earlier, but am starting to more and more. This guy is playing horrible right now. Injury or not, he cant do jack. Head should steal his minutes. This guy looks strong, he hustles all game and that is something we really need. If that doesnt please you, even JVG hinted his dissapointment with wesley in today's paper. He also said how we need someone who goes out there and plays like a dog, head will do that.
     
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    T-mac is making an early recovery
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2216891

    I've actually had a back spasm. It is alot of pain to go through because most movements cause pain. The good thing about them is rest contributes so much. I had one and went to the doctor who said it was severe. In 4 weeks I was fine with the usual pain. The article talks about how he can bend down now. I started bending down after a week. He is progressing fast and hopefully he'll be back on the court. The last sentence makes me think when he comes back, he will be ready to play and tear up whoever we play.
     
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    I, more so than probably anyone else, has been giving Wesley the benefit of the doubt...but I just see no light at the end of the tunnel...his shooting has regressed, his defense has become average, and he looks slow and tired on the court...He's averaging 26 minutes per game, which is just as many minutes as Barry, and only FOUR less than Anderson...meaning Wesley is seeing too much time on the court...if anything, cut his minutes in half to give him spot time as a spot defender/spot-up shooter, and give the remaining 13 minutes to Head...
     

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