Slow start has Dunleavy Wondering What's Wrong

He just needs some confidence and some higher testosterone levels and he'll be better than ever.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">He just needs some confidence and some higher testosterone levels and he'll be better than ever. </div>

Viagra?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kensaku:</div><div class="quote_post">Viagra?
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Then he'll brick his shots and won't be able to play defense. He'll be known as "stiffy".

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">Then he'll brick his shots and won't be able to play defense. He'll be known as "stiffy".</div>
LOL, he can't be the same, "before" and "after". Dunleavy already does brick his shots and play little defense. He only shows up once every other 5 games or so. I think if Dunleavy took Viagara, he'd only get to experience the sensation that Jim Barnett has experienced whenever he talks about him on the air. "The thing I like about Dunleavy is he passes well and dribbles the ball for a maa-- a mannnn -errrrrr --ahhhhhhhhhh ... passes well and dribbles the ball well for a man 6'10". The Barnett-gasm is in full effect.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">LOL, he can't be the same, "before" and "after". Dunleavy already does brick his shots and play little defense. He only shows up once every other 5 games or so. I think if Dunleavy took Viagara, he'd only get to experience the sensation that Jim Barnett has experienced whenever he talks about him on the air. "The thing I like about Dunleavy is he passes well and dribbles the ball for a maa-- a mannnn -errrrrr --ahhhhhhhhhh ... passes well and dribbles the ball well for a man 6'10". The Barnett-gasm is in full effect.</div>

 

lol custodian, I swear Ive seen Barnett talking to Dun after a game with his glasses all fogged up...and I cant say that I saw his non-microphone holding hand!!

But seriously, I think that article points out some key issues:

Dunleavy has never been a statistician's best friend, but his numbers have been even lower to start this season. He is averaging 8.7 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.0 assists, compared with the 13.4 points, 5.5. rebounds and 2.6 assists from a year ago.

This kind of makes the comparisons to Jrich and Murphy a bit moot. Its like saying, "hes never really been that good, but now he's even less good."

"Mike does need to affect the game in different ways other than shooting," Montgomery said. "He needs to be a passer, he needs to be a smart player, and he should be a leader. The shooting part will work itself out."

Geez, how cool would it be to sign a huge contract and just be held to those standards? In fact, I think the need for Dun to be a good passer is way overblown, especially with BD initiating the offense. The smart player thing he has still never proved to me. And a leader?? No way. If anything, the only things I really expect out of him is good perimeter shooting, and enough defense that he doesnt always have to rely on help. Is that too much to ask for?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nfmos:</div><div class="quote_post">lol custodian, I swear Ive seen Barnett talking to Dun after a game with his glasses all fogged up...and I cant say that I saw his non-microphone holding hand!!

But seriously, I think that article points out some key issues:

Dunleavy has never been a statistician's best friend, but his numbers have been even lower to start this season. He is averaging 8.7 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.0 assists, compared with the 13.4 points, 5.5. rebounds and 2.6 assists from a year ago.

This kind of makes the comparisons to Jrich and Murphy a bit moot. Its like saying, "hes never really been that good, but not he's even less good."

"Mike does need to affect the game in different ways other than shooting," Montgomery said. "He needs to be a passer, he needs to be a smart player, and he should be a leader. The shooting part will work itself out."

Geez, how cool would it be to sign a huge contract and just be held to those standards? In fact, I think the need for Dun to be a good passer is way overblown, especially with BD initiating the offense. The smart player thing he has still never proved to me. And a leader?? No way. If anything, the only things I really expect out of him is good perimeter shooting, and enough defense that he doesnt always have to rely on help. Is that too much to ask for?</div>

Yeah. Even if Mullin loves Dunleavy, he probably expected Dunleavy to improve and match that contract's worth, not disappear from the court before ink dries. Even if he plays like at the end of the season, where he scored 16 pts with 50% from the field and 40% from the 3, he still isn't worth his extension.

I also believe his sound fundamentals are overrated. Yes, he does have a solid basics and a smart ball player, but can he actually cash in those fundamentals and actually impact the game? If his intangible, which doesn't appear in stat, is really that important, why did Dunleavy looks so invisible when his jumpers aren't falling? Even if guys like Davis or Kidd goes 0-10 from the field, you still feel their presence. Yet, when Dunleavy's jumper doesn't fall like our first 4 games, he really looked invisible. If that's the case, how can we call that his intangible and basketball IQ are important for the game?

Well, good news is that Dunleavy is bound to play better than what he is doing right now, because he is a better player...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">I also believe his sound fundamentals are overrated. Yes, he does have a solid basics and a smart ball player, but can he actually cash in those fundamentals and actually impact the game? If his intangible, which doesn't appear in stat, is really that important, why did Dunleavy looks so invisible when his jumpers aren't falling? Even if guys like Davis or Kidd goes 0-10 from the field, you still feel their presence. Yet, when Dunleavy's jumper doesn't fall like our first 4 games, he really looked invisible. If that's the case, how can we call that his intangible and basketball IQ are important for the game?

Well, good news is that Dunleavy is bound to play better than what he is doing right now, because he is a better player...</div>

Good points, Kwan. I think at this point, we need to accept Dunleavy as a complimentary player rather than an impact player. It's sad, but he does a lot of little things that compliment everybody else's game, which is a pretty rare yet unimpressive asset for a team.

I would be happy if Dunleavy's 3-pointer became consistent and he got to the free throw line twice as much. That, to me, would justify his new contract extension.

 

You know what I just realized? Why are we complaining about Dunleavy. It is not like it does any good. Its not like Mullin reads these threads and realized wow Dunleavy sucks...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting nfmos:</div><div class="quote_post">lol custodian, I swear Ive seen Barnett talking to Dun after a game with his glasses all fogged up...and I cant say that I saw his non-microphone holding hand!!

But seriously, I think that article points out some key issues:

Dunleavy has never been a statistician's best friend, but his numbers have been even lower to start this season. He is averaging 8.7 points, 4.3 rebounds and 3.0 assists, compared with the 13.4 points, 5.5. rebounds and 2.6 assists from a year ago.

This kind of makes the comparisons to Jrich and Murphy a bit moot. Its like saying, "hes never really been that good, but now he's even less good."

"Mike does need to affect the game in different ways other than shooting," Montgomery said. "He needs to be a passer, he needs to be a smart player, and he should be a leader. The shooting part will work itself out."

Geez, how cool would it be to sign a huge contract and just be held to those standards? In fact, I think the need for Dun to be a good passer is way overblown, especially with BD initiating the offense. The smart player thing he has still never proved to me. And a leader?? No way. If anything, the only things I really expect out of him is good perimeter shooting, and enough defense that he doesnt always have to rely on help. Is that too much to ask for?</div>
Thanks, good to see you taking a break from the espn boards

My sentiments exactly about Dun, even though Dun is obviously struggling like Murphy and Jrich did when both made Mullin look really bad early in the season last year for signing them when he didn't have to (well in some light Mullin had to sign or else their agent would find them a new team). I don't think Dunleavy has the same kind of pull that both Murphy and Jrich have to demand a trade. I think Mullin is just from a different era and finds that the NBA lacks a lot of the all around skill and courtvision Dunleavy has. You can't teach courtvision but at the same time you can't teach quickness or athleticism or an insane shot touch. If Dunleavy had those things, there's no doubt in my mind why he wouldn't be able to create his shot better, defend a lot better and get in the lane a lot easier. Look at Lamar Odom. He's basically the same kind of small forward in some aspects. Grant Hill in his prime had the ability to get into that lane. Dunleavy just can't do these things so it's skills sort of wasted and mentally he won't do anything his body can't do. I would say it's also his unselfishness that's causing a problem, but that's the player he is. As a complimentary guy all he needs to do is hit those shots and play defense and sometimes in games you won't get either out of him. He just doesn't make the game magically better or easier for the team like Jason Kidd (a good example by Kwan). Also he's no Larry Bird or Chris Mullin who would just punish people with a feathery shot touch, good technique.

I don't think Dunleavy should be the team's scapegoat, but I don't think he helps the team that much to deserve near Murphy money or near Tayshaun Prince money. We'll see in due time because he's going nowhere and he's the team's only true small forward (not by accident either).

 

Tayshaun is most definately earning his new contract, have you guys seen him play the past few games? He straight tore it up.

Guess who made it to the NBA's Worst - Week 1

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedi.../content.2.html

 

I guess we'll see Dun on week 2 This bad play after signing a new contract must last a few weeks.

 

The one bright spot in Dunleavy's game thus far this season has actually been his defense. He's been disruptive and actually blocking a few shots. Dundun is officially in my doghouse until he starts taking the ball to the hole and slashing to the hoop. Almost half of his shots are from behind the arc, and he's not making them. Time for the kid to watch old Mullin tapes and see that he found other ways to score besides jump shots when he was struggling.

 

I will give Dun credit for hitting some big clutch shots and some shots that have gotten momentum for us. I heard Zarko shot like crap!

 

Patience. Its easy to criticize after what 5 games? Yes his shooting is off but the Warriors are winning. When was the last time we started 3-2 after 3 games on the road? Dunleavy is a part of that team.

Remember, Mullin was an alchy when he started and did not become a star until his 3rd or 4th year. Not everyone can come in like Hardaway or Webber and become a star.

At least Dunleavy will be better than Darius Miles.

 

Considering that Miles is putting 22/8 right now, I probably won't bet that Dunleavy will be better then Mile just yet.

Well, we have to be patient, because we have no other choice...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">The one bright spot in Dunleavy's game thus far this season has actually been his defense. He's been disruptive and actually blocking a few shots. Dundun is officially in my doghouse until he starts taking the ball to the hole and slashing to the hoop. Almost half of his shots are from behind the arc, and he's not making them. Time for the kid to watch old Mullin tapes and see that he found other ways to score besides jump shots when he was struggling.</div>

True besides his struggling shooting and passing, he's been a better defender. But lets not forget Pietrus is a defensive specialist who has been hot these past few games, shooting above 50%, while attacking the rim. The kid is averaging more points that Dunleavy and he has like half the minutes Dunleavy gets. I don't mind if Dunleavy starts,but if he's doing real bad (like these past few games) wouldn't it make sense to give more mins to Pietrus until Dunleavy finds his groove? Monty has been pissing me off with his rotation. He doesn't have the balls to tell the team to stop launching 3's or to attack the rim or give more mins to Pietrus.

 

I guess it depends on the matchup. Pietrus absolutely cannot dribble the ball. He looks terrible with the ball in his hands so far. As long as Baron's limping around, I think Dunleavy should be out there, although I love Pietrus' heart. I really haven't had a problem with Monty's rotation. He's been sticking with the hot hand for the most part. It's just tough to have Pietrus and Richardson in the game at the same time because you don't want Fisher in there with a small guy next to him. I think ideally, Monty would like to go small more often, however we played the Knicks and Bulls on back to backs on the road. That's really a lot more difficult than it sounds. Especially for a West coast team going out east.