The only person you can blame last nights loss on is Yao.the fact is you can blame the role players but Yao was the only star player on that team last night and he didn't perform. I'm a Yao fan but i'm tired with the way he becomes passive too often. yao was on a streek for most of the game then all of a sudden he stops scoring for 17 minutes staright, could you imaging shaq or duncan or kobe just not scoring for 17 minutes comming off a hotstreak. Yao is way too unselfish, instead of demanding the ball, he spent the last half tiring himself out setting picks for shots that didn't go down. he should of just called for the ball and continued to back mourning down. Yao should have finished with at least 30 last night. and the rox would have won. It's like charles barkley says the rox will only go as far as Yao can, and with tmac out he should have stepped up, but he didn't.
Johnny you are a bandwagoner that's all He could've scored 30 points 20 boards 6 assists and lost the game and people like you would've still accused him of "not playing to his potential". Absolute Rubbish, Yao was not the problem, It was certain team members missing shots and allowing opponents open for 3's and a lack of energy on the bench. If some of these players could be even half as effient as Yao and get their shots in when they're supposed to then we certainly would have won. But no Yao has to blamed for everything. For once i'd like to see you people stick up for him and not be on his backside when it's uncalled for.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting drake:</div><div class="quote_post">Johnny you are a bandwagoner that's all He could've scored 30 points 20 boards 6 assists and lost the game and people like you would've still accused him of "not playing to his potential". Absolute Rubbish, Yao was not the problem, It was certain team members missing shots and allowing opponents open for 3's and a lack of energy on the bench. If some of these players could be even half as effient as Yao and get their shots in when they're supposed to then we certainly would have won. But no Yao has to blamed for everything. For once i'd like to see you people stick up for him and not be on his backside when it's uncalled for.</div> i'm a big yao supporter but admit it, with tmac gone yao is the star of the team he becomes the number one option. He could have scored 30 and he should have. yao is very talented but he wastes alot of that talent by not being aggresive, 17 minutes without a shot attempt during a crucial period is inexcussable.
I see ur point, but was he passive or did heat start fronting him in the 4th? If ur covered well and the rest are scrubs around u who cant make a bucket it's obvious yao can't do it all on his own no matter how big he is. He's still the biggest player who is best at his size and position. So brosco who do u want to replace yao at his size and position? There are only 1 shaq, tim duncan, and they have good role players around them. kobe is an allstar versatile guard..yao is an all star 7'6 center. how do u compare them? Kobe and Yao lost without good role players..that's the similarity..but u can't compare their skills in court
johnny brasco.. you are speaking absolute rubbish... It was not yao's fault.. its a team game you cant blame a player who had 24 pts 14 rebounds 3 assists.. Name me any other center or 7'6 player who scored these numbers.. or even close to it ... waiting..... thats right you can't find any...Your probably the type of person who would blame wade because of his 10 turnovers despite his 29 point 11 rebound 6 assist effort(when heat lost to pacers) ... You just dont make sense man... <strike>You need to learn the game before talking this absolute rubbish</strike> some sense in your posts.... Blame the star player if they lose when the supporting cast are just not good enough..?? NOPE.... [red]Personal attacks will not be tolerated. ~Locke[/red]
brasco eggroll you put tmac in the equation huh?? umm what record did he have in orlando??Last time i checked they had the worst record in the nba. I dont see you blaming him when they had the worst record in the nba?? Or did he not perform all those losses? U dont make sense man get taught
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">The only person you can blame last nights loss on is Yao.the fact is you can blame the role players but Yao was the only star player on that team last night and he didn't perform. I'm a Yao fan but i'm tired with the way he becomes passive too often. yao was on a streek for most of the game then all of a sudden he stops scoring for 17 minutes staright, could you imaging shaq or duncan or kobe just not scoring for 17 minutes comming off a hotstreak. Yao is way too unselfish, instead of demanding the ball, he spent the last half tiring himself out setting picks for shots that didn't go down. he should of just called for the ball and continued to back mourning down. Yao should have finished with at least 30 last night. and the rox would have won. It's like charles barkley says the rox will only go as far as Yao can, and with tmac out he should have stepped up, but he didn't.</div> This isn't NBA live or ESPN basketball, Yao is a pure center. He's not a point guard, shooting guard, small forward or power forward. He's our fricking center, he's not going to bring the ball down the court pull up at the three point line, stick his tongue out and put up a three. He's not going to run the length of the floor (though he did this once) and dunk it over the entire opposing team. He's not going to eat spinach and single handedly knock out the entire team. This isn't a video game, this isn't some fantasy, this is reality. Yao is a good natured, talented center. Forgive him for having some decency and not turning into a dick like T.O.
Continue to blame,young guy, impose more pressure on Yao.If we lost,it was because of Yao,Yao didnt do a good job eventhough he got 24pts,14rebs,3asts...... Some of you guys would you please stop saying such rubbish words? DONT YOU konw basketball is a team-work sport?DID you see how terrible a job other rockets men did?Why dont you blame them?
I don't think he's blaming Yao, he's saying that if Yao was more aggresive/took more shots and demanded the ball, the Rox have a better chance of winning. With mac out, Yao should be averaging 30 a game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">The only person you can blame last nights loss on is Yao.the fact is you can blame the role players but Yao was the only star player on that team last night and he didn't perform. I'm a Yao fan but i'm tired with the way he becomes passive too often. yao was on a streek for most of the game then all of a sudden he stops scoring for 17 minutes staright, could you imaging shaq or duncan or kobe just not scoring for 17 minutes comming off a hotstreak. Yao is way too unselfish, instead of demanding the ball, he spent the last half tiring himself out setting picks for shots that didn't go down. he should of just called for the ball and continued to back mourning down. Yao should have finished with at least 30 last night. and the rox would have won. It's like charles barkley says the rox will only go as far as Yao can, and with tmac out he should have stepped up, but he didn't.</div> THE OTHER GUYS HAVE TO CHIP IN THEIR PIECE TO THE PIE! What the hell are they getting payed for? They cant just sit around and watch Yao do all the work. 17 minutes w/o Yao shooting right? You guys don't even wonder why. After being so hot he just decided to stop all of a sudden because he was unselfish? WRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONG... WRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONGWRONG, WRONG, WRONG,WRONG AHHHHH The whole friggin Miami team played off of the whole Rockets Offense. They didn't care if they got an open shot, as long as Yao didnt get the ball. They clogged up the lane pretty damn well once they saw that Yao was fricking unstoppable. If they even TRIED to get the ball to Yao, it would turn into a turnover the next second. They had 2 and sometimes 3 GUYS guarding the passing lane. WOW. So did Yao have a say in this? NO. All he could do was set some pic n rolls to maybe get some of his teammates going. Then maybe they would stop leaving them open, and stop staying right on/next to the passing lane to Yao. Yao did all he could. And some people hate to see that. Stop blaming the man. Why does KG get special treatment? PS: I can't forget about Howard. He deserves the starting role and I see that clearly now. EDIT: And because they were not putting in their numbers (because they cant score at all, but will as the season progresses they will, trust me) they can leave them open to block off any entry passes to Yao. That led to Yao having to run screens so his teammates could score and get some damn respect.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think he's blaming Yao, he's saying that if Yao was more aggresive/took more shots and demanded the ball, the Rox have a better chance of winning. With mac out, Yao should be averaging 30 a game.</div> hahaha let me take a moment to laugh at u guys.. are you kidding me?? <strike>And i say you both are idiots if you come to this conclusion</strike>... Not even steve nash is averaging 30 points or 10 + assists a game when their starplayer is off...last time i checked he was MVP!!!! .LEARN THE GAME man before making silly comments.. Amare is off injured and NOT STEVE NASH OR MARION IS SCORING 30!! <strike>haha u guys are a joke</strike> making ridiculous comments like this...ANd last time i checked wade is not averaging 30 pts with shaq off.. And the only player averaging 30 pts a game is allen iverson and kobe bryant.. they SHOOT 30 + shots a game .... and are 2 of the best players in the nba....stop being in your fantasy nba live sega game mentality this is real basketball.. you expect players to be superman or something... ?? Having mac out doesnt necessarily make yao more easier to score.. its harder because the defense of the other team are only targetting yao to defend thus makin it harder for yao.. and mac dishes the ball better to yao than alston ever will. Only shaq in his prime would be able to score those magic numbers... and i doubt he could score that much without his supporting cast.Please put more thought in your posts before making them . it turns out to be ridiculous expectations that only a rookie basketball fan would make. <font color="red">Didn't I just warn you this morning about personal attacks? ~Locke</font>
this thread basically comes down to this: miami's D centered on yao, that's when the other players needed to step up, and unfortunately for this game they didnt. It's a pretty simple strategy, make the other's team's role plyaers beat you, miami's D adjusted pretty well (combined maybe with a bitof fatigue from yao) and there you have it. Not yao's fault.
No Killabeez, having Mac out doesn't make Yao "more easier to score," but that means more touches for Yao (Tmac shoots a lot), which should translate into more points (or if he's being double-teamed, assists). Look at when VC played for NJ last year. He was the only scoring option, and he brought the Nets back from the dead. Sure he had JKidd (great passer, but not a great scorer), but the rest of his teammates were a lot worse than anybody on Houston presently. That's what superstars do, they step up their game when they really need to. That's what separates superstars from good players:stepping up their game in a teammates absence. Even Manu did that last year when TD was injured. I'm not saying Yao was playing bad, he played better than any of his teammates, but with Tmac out, he's the team's leader and #1 option, and having that resposibility, he needs to find a way for them to win, and 30+ points should not be out of the question for him.
for the last time i'm not hating on yao i like him, its just all you guys think he's already perfect and doesn't need to improve. Yao was schooling mourning for most of the game, don't bring up the fronting him thing, mournning is 8 inches shorter than yao, he could have just caught it over his head. what i'm saying is for yao to improve he needs an aggresive streak all the great players had it. Look at hakeem or kareem nice guys in real life but crazy on the court, yao has to start playing like he's #1 on the court and not a role player, especially when tracy's out.
He could have caught it over his head? That's just pure ignorance..watch the game once in a while and not just the stats or the circumstances..u think a 7'6 guy has the mobility to continually school 7'0 centers and forwards who were helping to guard him? Please I will take you guys seriously if you guys watched the game rather than finding mistakes in his stats which was much better than his surroundings who couldn't even score in all 4 quarters! Brosco lol ..yao couldn't score in only the 4th quarter in which he scored about 4 or 6 which is probably a good amount but u find him the one to be blamed for the WHOLE GAME? Does that make sense? Nope. And nobody said he was perfect, tell me one guy who played better than him..but since he's a bigger target so you want to start something? Locke Please Lock this! Hakeem and kareem's mean streak was due to help from role players. Yao had complete scrubs around him..not even 1 guy helped yao out in the stats so plz find something else brosko because no one will believe ignorant remarks
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">for the last time i'm not hating on yao i like him, its just all you guys think he's already perfect and doesn't need to improve. Yao was schooling mourning for most of the game, don't bring up the fronting him thing, mournning is 8 inches shorter than yao, he could have just caught it over his head. what i'm saying is for yao to improve he needs an aggresive streak all the great players had it. Look at hakeem or kareem nice guys in real life but crazy on the court, yao has to start playing like he's #1 on the court and not a role player, especially when tracy's out.</div> You're a troll and i think i'm going to ignore you
i watched the whole game not just the stats, in fact the stats make it look alot better. and a mean streek comes from better players? i doubt that...fine i give up you got me yao is perfect right now and doesn't need to improve his game at all ok.
Even though the Miami game is old news, being we won last night, you guys have some riduculous expectations on Yao. The guy dominated a tough defender in Mourning, and still you have people degrading Yao. The reason we loss was because we failed to get Yao the ball. He was open a few times down the stretch, and we didn't get him the ball. Give credit to Miami for fronting him, but that loss falls more on the role players. Oh, and Yao is averaging 21 and 10 this year so far. But that STILL might not be good enough for Virve119 and my friend Anxzballer.
the problem with yao is he's inconsistent sure he's averaging 21 and 10 only because on 1 night he'll get 24 points and 14 rebounds and the next 18 points and 2 rebounds, he needs to keep his production constant not streaky.
