I want to gauge people's thoughts on the QUANTITY of 3's the Warriors are jacking up. Against the Knicks, they shot 9-29 from 3-point land. I'm actually okay with this. The Warriors stated that they will be 3-point happy team. I haven't been keeping track, but I haven't seen too many forced 3's. A lot of them have been pretty open shots. The one problem I have is the quick 3-point shot that doesn't come after a two or more passes. Those seem to never go in. Baron Davis is the #1 culprit of doing that, but his actions are quite forgivable as he just finds a way to win in the end anyway. Would you rather have the W's stop shooting the 3's? They are obviously lacking in inside presence so the long range threat makes sense. It will be interesting to see what happens when Ike and Biedrins come back, but I still expect to see the 3's fly. Live and die...
Defenses see we have no inside presence so they crowd the lane and dare us to shoot. Sometimes we are forced to do it if they dare us. I am just not okay with guys shooting threes off the dribble when shooting off the dribble isn't their strength. I prefer to see guys catch and shoot. If we play like the Sonics, we better sure hope as hell to get that offensive rebounding problem fixed. On defense, those long shots often lead to fast breaks going the other way.
I have no problem with it as long as they make 33% percent or better, but that also makes it tough to win on back to backs if they are going to rely so much on outside shots. The bulls game was a good example, how their scoring just dropped every quarter.
I don't mind a lot of 3 point shots but we don't really have any great sharpshooters. Also, from a teaching standpoint, someone should tell those kids to go and drive the ball in and break down the defense instead of settling for the 3 point shot all the time. I guess we don't have the handle to do that, either.
I can't say I like what I see so far. Sure, we are 4-2 right now, but 3 out of 4 wins came from still-winless Hawks and Knicks. And, in Bucks game, we shot nearly 50% from the 3 pts line and we still won only by 7 pts. If we can't shoot 50% from 3 pts, can we win against a decent team? I guess tomorrow's game will answer a bit. We certainly don't have post up games, so in order to decrease 3 pts attempts, we have to run and get easier basket. But we couldn't run so far, so we have to rely on 3 pts. Hope our style can work against decent defensive teams...
I hate it. We need to go to the hoop more. Once you can get to the hoop a bit and maybe stop and pop, work your way out until your 3 shot is on. J-Rich did a good job of that on post up plays
You would think that Dunleavy would flourish in this type of 3 point offense, I'm still expecting him to come out of his slump. If Dunleavy can start hitting, our 3 point % should go up which will open up other things.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">You would think that Dunleavy would flourish in this type of 3 point offense, I'm still expecting him to come out of his slump. If Dunleavy can start hitting, our 3 point % should go up which will open up other things.</div> I know this is going to stupid, but Dunleavy needs to have a shot limit per game. 5-7 shots a game until he can get above 50 percent FG percentage on his shots for 5 nights in a row, if he can do that, he can shoot again until he gets in a slump, if he can't he plays 15-20 minutes a game and we have MP take a bigger role. It might work, kind of like the reward a kid for cleaning his room theory
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Air Pietrus:</div><div class="quote_post">I know this is going to stupid, but Dunleavy needs to have a shot limit per game. 5-7 shots a game until he can get above 50 percent FG percentage on his shots for 5 nights in a row, if he can do that, he can shoot again until he gets in a slump, if he can't he plays 15-20 minutes a game and we have MP take a bigger role. It might work, kind of like the reward a kid for cleaning his room theory</div> I agree. As it stands, Dunleavy is forcing his shots. Maybe he should have the mindset of taking it to the hole every time regardless of how open he is. It will help him get to the free throw line, which he needs to do more of anyway.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kensaku:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree. As it stands, Dunleavy is forcing his shots. Maybe he should have the mindset of taking it to the hole every time regardless of how open he is. It will help him get to the free throw line, which he needs to do more of anyway.</div> Agreed. Right now, he has the best free throw shot on the team. He is the only guy that can make them consistently right now. Even if he gets called for a charging foul going there, he should still go to the rack. If it looks like the guy is going to go for a charge, stop and shoot from the 6 feet away,
YOu need to look at some of the best teams and the perimeter defense is always there. Open looks at the long ball do not come easily against the likes of: 1) Tinsley with O'Neal coming out to help 2) Rip Hamilton 3) Bowen/Ginobili YOU WILL NOT BEAT these teams shooting 3's
Has anybody noticed that Baron constantly shoots off balance. Even on wide open looks he falls to one-side, or fades back. Last night against the Knicks he hit his big time three when he set both feet perfectly and just nailed it. I know I'm nit picking a great player, but he really needs to try and set the feet for his three point shot. J-Rich is the only Warrior who makes o ton of shots off balance.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mylie10:</div><div class="quote_post">Has anybody noticed that Baron constantly shoots off balance. Even on wide open looks he falls to one-side, or fades back. Last night against the Knicks he hit his big time three when he set both feet perfectly and just nailed it. I know I'm nit picking a great player, but he really needs to try and set the feet for his three point shot. J-Rich is the only Warrior who makes o ton of shots off balance.</div> Maybe because he is favoring his left hammy?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mylie10:</div><div class="quote_post">Has anybody noticed that Baron constantly shoots off balance. Even on wide open looks he falls to one-side, or fades back. Last night against the Knicks he hit his big time three when he set both feet perfectly and just nailed it. I know I'm nit picking a great player, but he really needs to try and set the feet for his three point shot. J-Rich is the only Warrior who makes o ton of shots off balance.</div> I havent noticed him shooting really off balance but if there is someone near him I've noticed that he kicks his leg out, probably trying to draw contact. I have noticed however that it is really easy to predict when he is going to shoot. Most of the time when he is at the top of the key being guarded closely, you can predict when he is going to shoot because he usually gets a pick from Murphy but if Baron doesnt pass after the pick and tries to force penetration then he will shoot 90% of the time (even if he is double teamed and has to shoot a bad 3). Its hard to explain but if you pay attention you can tell that on alot of possessions he decides he is going to shoot long before he initiates the offense.
I think the hammy's definitely affecting all fascets of his game, but i've been noticing this for a while. When he squares up it's night and day. I think most players shoot better when they're squared. It's just something I've noticed and will be paying attention to. There's nothing that will change the way Baron plays, so it's a moot point.
I don't think anyone shooting 3's under 35% should be looking for 3"s,I don't think most players should shoot a 3 until they hit at least one midrange J. I think taking 20+ 3's when nobody has a hot hand is lazy. MOVE and PASS and things happen. As a 3 is lower %,we MUST have rebounders in position when we do fire 3's.
I hate the way the Warriors are jacking up 3s. Yes some are good shots where its in the flow of the offense but most of them are one pass shoot 3s and that's just not good offense. Last night, the Warriors fell back into 3s when they got the big lead and it almost hurt them.
On the plus side, the Warriors have shown some willingness to have the ball touch more than two sets of hands before going up. When everyone is on the same page, execution wise, there shouldn't be any telegraphed passes or turnovers or that many forced shots. I think the Warriors will reach a pretty awesome level when they master the team game and a few of our guys become legit post threats on isolations. We already have one or two ballhandlers that can dice somebody up one-on-one and 4 of our 5 starters can hit the three ball. This team's potential is pretty up there if they work hard and trust in Mully/Monty. A lot of people don't agree with the coaching, the late timeouts and odd substitutions, but I agree with what Monty/Mully is trying to do for a team that is too used to playing the kind of ball that young rookies tend to play. Like Philsmith mentions we need more offensive flow and rhythm. We shouldn't get lazy with the three ball because that's the easy way out. It doesn't really use the mind or the body compared to moving the ball, making the extra pass, or taking it hard all the way to the rack.
