Peja A Bull?

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  1. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Rumors persist that Sacramento?s Peja Stojakovic wants a trade to the Bulls or is hoping to sign here as a free agent next summer. But Deng?s upside makes acquiring another small forward a difficult call.</div>

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    Thanks, but no thanks I hope this does not happen sounds like another BS roomer the media is trying to create. Deng is the future, and has shown nothing, but upside so far this season. He is also a lot more versatile then Peja. I don?t know why they (The Bulls) would even consider this option.
     
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    ya bs to this. deng will be more valuable than him in a year
     
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    I am glad we have such a young team of core players (Hinrich, Deng, Gordon, Sweetney, Nocioni, Chandler) it means we dont have to go after that big free agent signing that will costs us a lot of money.
     
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    The Bulls actually can just wait for him to opt-out of his contract this season if Peja really wants to play for them. They don't have to trade anything for him. I'm not sure Peja would be a good fit for the Bulls even if he wants to go there. They have enough shooters on the floor and plenty of depth at SF.
     
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    I wouldnt mind Peja on the Bulls, only if Luol Deng was shipped elsewhere where he could get lots of playing time and live up to his potential, or else I wouldnt bring Peja in, plain and simple. Luol Deng is a great player and he's only going to improve from here on out, so theres no point in trying to delay his improvement just so you can be good for the time being.
     
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    I do not want him in a Chicago uniform. He'd totally mess up the progression of Deng because he'd suck the minutes away from him. Beyond that, they have enough depth at the SF as is, with Deng and Noc there, Songaila can also slide over and play the SF spot as well. Peja would be an unnecessary part for the Bulls. Beyond that, Skiles would hate him. He doesn't play defense, and that's one big thing that Skiles always preaches is defense. Peja would not be good as a Chicago Bull. Let him go somewhere else and let someone else overpay him.
     
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    why does Peja wanna come to Chicago anyway?
    I remember last year or the year before there was a rumor he wanted to come here.
     
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    how about a three way trade[​IMG]
    Bulls, Raptors, Kings

    Bulls send: Luol Deng..Jannaro Pargo..Noicioni
    Bulls receive: SAR, Peja

    Raptors send: Jalen Rose and Aaron Williams, and a first round pick
    Raptors receive:Luol Deng, Pargo

    Kings send: SAR, Peja
    Kings receive: Jalen Rose, Raptors First round pick, Nocioni, and Aaron Williams
     
  9. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">how about a three way trade[​IMG]
    Bulls, Raptors, Kings

    Bulls send: Luol Deng..Jannaro Pargo..Noicioni
    Bulls receive: SAR, Peja

    Raptors send: Jalen Rose and Aaron Williams, and a first round pick
    Raptors receive:Luol Deng, Pargo

    Kings send: SAR, Peja
    Kings receive: Jalen Rose, Raptors First round pick, Nocioni, and Aaron Williams</div>
    The Bulls will not trade for Peja it was noted in the article that Peja is rumored to want to be traded to the Bulls or sign with them this off season not the other way around. For them to trade Deng is ludicrous he has much more talent/upside then Peja ever/ever will have. This once again is just a rumor the media seems to be desperate to give Chicago a former all star rumors of Ben Wallace, Peja, etc coming to Chicago next season.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">The Bulls will not trade for Peja it was noted in the article that Peja is rumored to want to be traded to the Bulls or sign with them this off season not the other way around. For them to trade Deng is ludicrous he has much more talent/upside then Peja ever/ever will have. This once again is just a rumor the media seems to be desperate to give Chicago a former all star rumors of Ben Wallace, Peja, etc coming to Chicago next season.</div>Couldn't agree with you more. Deng is looking to be a star in this league. He's going to keep getting better and what makes it sweeter is that he's only 20. He's still young and he's already this good. Deng has all the potential in the world to be a future All Star in this league, and Noc is a great defensive player. Why would they trade them for a defensive liability in Peja, and SAR, an overpaid player who isn't getting any younger (even though he's not that old). It makes no sense. Noc and Deng are two of the future faces for this organization, and they won't trade either of them away for two vets who's best basketball is almost behind them.
     
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    One of the main reasons why we were so successful last season is that we played suffocating defense. After the 0-9 start our D was what 3rd best at least? Peja wouldn't fit at all. He doesnt defend plain and simple. I doubt hes Skiles type of player. Personally I don't want Peja here, mainly because hes older than Deng whos only 20 and Peja's main drawcard is his shooting, which we dont really need. Theres more point in us trying to get wallace or nene.
     
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    You guys are crazy!

    Deng looks like he COULD be a star in this league

    Peja ALREADY is a star.

    I would make that trade or sign him in a heartbeat. My question is why does Peja specifically want to play for the Bulls? Is it because he knows they should have over $20m in cap space next season?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Is it because he knows they should have over $20m in cap space next season?</div>

    we saving that for LeBron. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting I-Miss-MJ:</div><div class="quote_post">we saving that for LeBron. [​IMG]</div>

    Wouldnt that be nice...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">how about a three way trade[​IMG]
    Bulls, Raptors, Kings

    Bulls send: Luol Deng..Jannaro Pargo..Noicioni
    Bulls receive: SAR, Peja

    Raptors send: Jalen Rose and Aaron Williams, and a first round pick
    Raptors receive:Luol Deng, Pargo

    Kings send: SAR, Peja
    Kings receive: Jalen Rose, Raptors First round pick, Nocioni, and Aaron Williams</div>



    Hahaha I really laughed at this, I know it's just for fun, that's why I'm not going go on about it, I just wanna say this. THERE IS NO WAY THE KINGS WOULD DO THAT. Trade two of there best players for Rose and Nocioni. That's basically all we're getting. A decent first rounder, but still NO WAY!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys are crazy!

    Deng looks like he COULD be a star in this league

    Peja ALREADY is a star.

    I would make that trade or sign him in a heartbeat. My question is why does Peja specifically want to play for the Bulls? Is it because he knows they should have over $20m in cap space next season?</div>This is exactly why you're not an NBA GM. Deng has far too much upside to trade away. Peja is 28 years old and he's on the downside of his career. Deng is 20 years old and still growing and getting better. His all around game is already better than Pejas. Peja knows one thing and one thing only, and that's shooting. He's not good at creating his own shot, he can't get to the rim, and he's a defensive liability. Deng on the other hand, is still learning the game. He's still developing his all around abilities. He's already a better rebounder than Peja. He can hit the mid range shot with some good consistency. His three point shot will get there, though it won't ever match Pejas. He's a better defender than Peja and he's only going to improve on that side. Overall, he has so much more upside than Peja ever had, and he's going to become a better overall player in this league than Peja was and ever will be. The fact of the matter is this. You don't trade away someone like Deng. He's a lock to be a star. Not many 19 year olds come into this league and make the impact on a team that he did. He's a phenomenal talent that Pax and company would be stupid to trade away, especially for an overrated shooter like Peja. Peja won't add anything to this team that they don't already have in Gordon and Hinrich. Deng on the other hand, adds a different style of player. If the Bulls ever did that, I would forever question the sanity of Paxson and the rest of Bulls management, because that would be pure stupidity on their part. Deng has too much upside, and Peja is just not the kind of player this team needs. So to say that they'd be stupid for not doing this, means you really have no clue what you're talking about.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">This is exactly why you're not an NBA GM. Deng has far too much upside to trade away. Peja is 28 years old and he's on the downside of his career. Deng is 20 years old and still growing and getting better. His all around game is already better than Pejas. Peja knows one thing and one thing only, and that's shooting. He's not good at creating his own shot, he can't get to the rim, and he's a defensive liability. Deng on the other hand, is still learning the game. He's still developing his all around abilities. He's already a better rebounder than Peja. He can hit the mid range shot with some good consistency. His three point shot will get there, though it won't ever match Pejas. He's a better defender than Peja and he's only going to improve on that side. Overall, he has so much more upside than Peja ever had, and he's going to become a better overall player in this league than Peja was and ever will be. The fact of the matter is this. You don't trade away someone like Deng. He's a lock to be a star. Not many 19 year olds come into this league and make the impact on a team that he did. He's a phenomenal talent that Pax and company would be stupid to trade away, especially for an overrated shooter like Peja. Peja won't add anything to this team that they don't already have in Gordon and Hinrich. Deng on the other hand, adds a different style of player. If the Bulls ever did that, I would forever question the sanity of Paxson and the rest of Bulls management, because that would be pure stupidity on their part. Deng has too much upside, and Peja is just not the kind of player this team needs. So to say that they'd be stupid for not doing this, means you really have no clue what you're talking about.</div>

    Oh, I did not know YOU were a NBA GM! Deng has upside, there is no argument about that. Peja is known for shooting; FOR SHOOTING THE LIGHTS OUT OF THE GYM!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post"> Peja is known for shooting; FOR SHOOTING THE LIGHTS OUT OF THE GYM!</div>
    And not much else...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Best Kept Secret:</div><div class="quote_post">And not much else...</div>
    He was a legit MVP candidate. He scored 25pts per game. How long will it be until Deng does that IF he ever does. See that is the thing with fans. They get so enamoured with a play or 2 and begin having thoughts of the next Jordan or Magic or whatever that you get blinded by his "potential". Yet when a sure thing is staring you in the face you say, no because he MIGHT be just as good someday. But you forget, he MIGHT NOT be as good ever...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">He was a legit MVP candidate. He scored 25pts per game. How long will it be until Deng does that IF he ever does. See that is the thing with fans. They get so enamoured with a play or 2 and begin having thoughts of the next Jordan or Magic or whatever that you get blinded by his "potential". Yet when a sure thing is staring you in the face you say, no because he MIGHT be just as good someday. But you forget, he MIGHT NOT be as good ever...</div>
    Listen how many times a year do you watch the Bulls play? We do not need Peja take it from all the Bulls fans who have posted in this thread so far. Peja was a legit MVP candidate when he had Chris Webber, Doug Christie, Mike Bibby, Brad Miller, etc on his team at the same time. Peja is a one dimensional player who has nothing but a jump shot he is not a player I would build a franchise around, and not a player I would pay big money to get. Deng I do not care how long it takes him he has shown the potential to be a franchise player, and has a lot more dimensions to his game then Peja. Peja has been in the league how long? Compared to Deng?s two NBA seasons. Like someone else said he is only twenty years old. Will Peja make the difference for the Bulls in terms of getting them to the NBA finals if we sign him? No so why not let the young talent develop. I do not care what the numbers say, what Peja has averaged in the past. The Bulls do not need/or want him. The Bulls have plenty of good shooter from three point range Hinrich (45% this season) and Gordon (43% this season) they have no need for Peja. Also Peja has been known to choke in the clutch games. He struggled in the playoffs against the Wolves a few years ago when the Kings had a legit shot at making it top the finals. Then he could not take the criticism from Webber, and whined about it until Webber was traded.
     

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