Korver at the Four

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  1. Really Lost One

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Right about now, if I’m Jim O’Brien I’m saying, “Why didn’t I think of that?”

    What am I talking about? Well I’m talking about the crunch time lineup of Allen Iverson, John Salmons, Andre Iguodala, Kyle Korver and Chris Webber. Remember last year how O’Brien went on and on about surrounding Allen with more shooters, and how his vision of the Sixers was Allen Iverson, three perimeter players and a big guy? Well Coach Maurice Cheeks put that concept into action against both the Los Angeles Lakers and the Los Angeles Clippers—with all players that O’Brien had last year!

    Mind you, this lineup can’t play for an entire game together, but it is effective for more than just spot minutes because Kyle Korver actually can play the power forward position. Offensively the combination of players causes match up nightmares. For instance if you want to take Korver’s three point shooting away, you now have to waste one of your wing defenders on him, which means you’re forced to put a big guy on either Salmons or Iguodala. Both are too quick for a big so your defense will crumble under the dribble penetration of Salmons, Iguodala, and Iverson. If you decide you’re going to guard Korver with a conventional power forward then you’ve now created an opportunity for him to pop quick 3’s and two’s or you create seams and passing lanes in your defense that all five of the Sixers players can and will pick apart with precision passing.
    Defensively, Korver can harass and bother all but the elite power forwards, and he’s so active that he provides excellent help. Plus if he’s posted up, he’s strong enough to hold his position until help comes from the equally active Iguodala and Salmons. Also, he’s such a tough player that he has no problem throwing his body around and scrapping for rebounds.

    So there you have it. Jim O’Brien had a vision and now Coach Maurice Cheeks is making it a reality—albeit for only about 12 minutes a game.</div>

    link:http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_14975.shtml

    that lineup seems like one strictly used for offense. it might have some trouble on the defensive side....
     
  2. AIFan

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    But in order for that to be effective, Korver has to start knocking down the long ball consistently like he did last year. His stroke is missing in action this year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AIFan:</div><div class="quote_post">But in order for that to be effective, Korver has to start knocking down the long ball consistently like he did last year. His stroke is missing in action this year.</div>
    Korver started off bad, but he's picked it up in the last few games we've won.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kunlun:</div><div class="quote_post">Korver started off bad, but he's picked it up in the last few games we've won.</div>compared to the first 3 games, ur right. Consistency is the key though.
     
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    I'd like to see him play the 4 against Villanueva.
     
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    I don't like that lineup, to much of a defense liability.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting B-22:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't like that lineup, to much of a defense liability.</div>

    That's true, but they wouldn't use it against a title contending team, they'd use it on offensively challenged teams like Charlotte or NO/OK for more wins.
     
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    Korver put up another goose egg from 3pt land tonight........
     
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    Korver has been trying to show he has a midrange game too much, concentrating on driving and stepping inside the arc to show that hes not so one-dimensional...the problem is that he IS one-dimensional...he's not helping the Sixers if he's not hitting 3s...they have plenty of 2-point shooters with AI, AI2 and C-Webb...but Korver's their only legit 3-point shooter so he must make 3-4 per game in order to be effective...opponents arent going to care if Korver's scoring most of his points on 2-point shots, they care if he's hitting his points off 3s...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Houston:</div><div class="quote_post">Korver has been trying to show he has a midrange game too much, concentrating on driving and stepping inside the arc to show that hes not so one-dimensional...the problem is that he IS one-dimensional...he's not helping the Sixers if he's not hitting 3s...they have plenty of 2-point shooters with AI, AI2 and C-Webb...but Korver's their only legit 3-point shooter so he must make 3-4 per game in order to be effective...opponents arent going to care if Korver's scoring most of his points on 2-point shots, they care if he's hitting his points off 3s...</div>Exactly. He's forcing his shots right now. He needs to take his shots off ball movement cause he can't create his shot. He's got to be open and be able to spot up, so either his man is gonna have to help against and AI drive and AI's gonna have to kick it out to him or their gonna have to get into a passing game and catch a slow rotation by the defense.
     

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