Somebody please tell me if this is actually going to happen or is it just rumours. Also if he were to be traded then who is the most likely team to aquire him and who would the Knicks get in return.
I discussed this with gotskillz92 and agree with him that this is a ploy to get him to raise his game. We couldnt get anyone else half as good, nobody wants to be knick anymore and the way the company treated heros like Houston and Ewing, who can blame them?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnny D:</div><div class="quote_post">I discussed this with gotskillz92 and agree with him that this is a ploy to get him to raise his game. We couldnt get anyone else half as good, nobody wants to be knick anymore and the way the company treated heros like Houston and Ewing, who can blame them?</div> How did the knicks treat Ewing and Houston bad? Ewing had wonderful seasons here and his number was retired. Houston was also treated very good here. Him and Dolan are real tight and thats why they didnt do the AH rule on him. Houston loves the knicks and even said that he wants to have a job with NYK.
I wish Marbury would get traded. He really isnt needed here anymore. He's not a Larry Brown player and in exchange for Marbury we could get back some more helpful players. Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
Who would take on his contract? Who else would want him? I truly believe New York is Marbury's last chance to prove he's a winner and can be a leader and be the cause of a team winning ballgames...I like his approach towards this season though, and I do think he's trying to play right by Brown...I think the Knicks need to deal Crawford and either Taylor or Rose before concerning themselves about Marbury...
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.</div>Here here.
I would have liked Ewing and Houston to finidh out their playing careers at NYK is all I ment. I know AH has retired, but I read somewhere he would play for another franchise, which is sad, cause he could still have been pro-active for the team this season in some capacity.
I'm sure most of you watched the game last night on national television. It was a close game with the Lakers, but despite the Knicks having a chance to win down the stretch, somebody was missing during crunch time. That somebody was Stephen Marbury. Not only was he not in the game, Larry Brown used an undersized, turnover prone rookie to close out the game for the Knicks. Larry Brown just sent a loud message to Marbury. He's letting Marbury know he doesn't trust him to close out games, and he wanted to make sure to embarrass Marbury infront of the national media, in two of the largest sports markets. Marbury only scored 4 points in the game and was terrible on the defensive end.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm sure most of you watched the game last night on national television. It was a close game with the Lakers, but despite the Knicks having a chance to win down the stretch, somebody was missing during crunch time. That somebody was Stephen Marbury. Not only was he not in the game, Larry Brown used an undersized, turnover prone rookie to close out the game for the Knicks. Larry Brown just sent a loud message to Marbury. He's letting Marbury know he doesn't trust him to close out games, and he wanted to make sure to embarrass Marbury infront of the national media, in two of the largest sports markets. Marbury only scored 4 points in the game and was terrible on the defensive end.</div> Marbury was missing during crunch time?! Sorry. I didnt notice. He always finds a way to disappear when the game is on the line so it's not really a big deal. I'm glad he was sitting at the critical stages of the game. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting marcelonbraga:</div><div class="quote_post">Please, tell me one player you could trade Marbury for that could help the knicks better than him</div> Well I'm glad you asked! I came up with a few semi-realistic trade ideas: Marbury and Nate Robinson to Dallas for Van Horn and Devin Harris(brand new young pass first point guard, perimeter shooting and poetic justice). Marbury to Minnesota for Marko Jaric and Wally World(pass first point guard and perimeter shooting). Marbury to Los Angeles for Walton, McKie and Odom(upgrades at forwards and a decent pass first point guard) Marbury to Memphis for Eddie Jones and Bobby Jackson.(perimeter shooting and...dont know it just looked like a good idea at the time) Marbury to Utah for Carlos Boozer, Matt Harpring and a first round draft pick(upgrade at powerforward, an alright small forward and a pick to get a PG). Marbury to Toronto for Jose Calderon and Jalen Rose(Rose is expiring sooner and Calderon looks great). I think either of these deals would make the Knicks better except maybe the Utah and Memphis trades. Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
Interesting trade ideas, I think the most realistic one is Dallas. Mark Cuban is crazy enough to get involved with Marbury's contract, and the Mavs aren't sold on Jason Terry as the starting PG. If Marbury can't get along with LB, then PJax and Sloan won't want to touch him with a 10 foot pole. Same goes for Jerry West, he spent all summer getting rid of the knuckleheads on the Grizzlies. Minnesota, would be a nice fit, but he left on bad terms and I'm not sure they'd want him back. Toronto is another good idea, but they seem intent on rebuilding and Marbury would crush that plan. Dallas is the best scenario.
*Marbury and Nate Robinson to Dallas for Van Horn and Devin Harris(brand new young pass first point guard, perimeter shooting and poetic justice)= What did you say when Van Horn was here??? *Marbury to Minnesota for Marko Jaric and Wally World(pass first point guard and perimeter shooting): Jaric is not a PG, Wally doesn´t defend no one *Marbury to Los Angeles for Walton, McKie and Odom(upgrades at forwards and a decent pass first point guard)= Odom?????, please he is very talented but he has no heart! Have you ever seen play? *Marbury to Memphis for Eddie Jones and Bobby Jackson.(perimeter shooting and...dont know it just looked like a good idea at the time)= It could be a good trade *Marbury to Utah for Carlos Boozer, Matt Harpring and a first round draft pick(upgrade at powerforward, an alright small forward and a pick to get a PG)= Just what we need, another Power forward *Marbury to Toronto for Jose Calderon and Jalen Rose(Rose is expiring sooner and Calderon looks great).... Jeejjejejej What do you think Isiah would do with Rose contract
Well Van Horn would give the Knicks another expiring contract. Add his salary to Penny and Antonio Davis... Penny - $15,750,000 Davis - $13,900,000 KVH - $15,694,250 Plus the $57Million still left on Marbury's deal. That's a lot of savings and cap flexibility for the Knicks.
That's why I love the idea of trading Marbury to Dallas. In addition to getting back an expiring contract we get back a young point guard for Larry Brown to mold. We also get a starting calibur small forward that Larry Brown would probably like to use(he doesnt really like Richardson at the 3 and Barnes shouldnt start on an NBA team), some perimeter shooting to spread the floor for Curry and a good rebounder. It's perfect for the Knicks. Too bad Isiah is too stupid to think of a great idea like that. Maybe I should be the one running the Knicks... Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
Isiah doesn't know a salary cap exist, so I doubt he would have interest in any expiring contracts, I would be for it, but oh well thats reality, we have to live with it i guess, but I would do this Dallas Trade Breakdown Outgoing Jason Terry 6-2 PG from Arizona 12.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 30.0 minutes Keith Van Horn 6-10 SF from Utah 12.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.6 minutes Incoming Stephon Marbury 6-2 PG from Georgia Tech 21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes Malik Rose 6-7 PF from Drexel 8.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.6 minutes Change in team outlook: +5.4 ppg, +0.5 rpg, and +2.3 apg. New York Trade Breakdown Outgoing Stephon Marbury 6-2 PG from Georgia Tech 21.7 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 8.2 apg in 40.0 minutes Malik Rose 6-7 PF from Drexel 8.3 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 0.7 apg in 23.6 minutes Incoming Jason Terry 6-2 PG from Arizona 12.4 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.4 apg in 30.0 minutes Keith Van Horn 6-10 SF from Utah 12.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.6 minutes Change in team outlook: -5.4 ppg, -0.5 rpg, and -2.3 apg. Successful Scenario Due to Dallas and New York being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Dallas and New York had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Send New York a first rounder, since Chicago owns ours now lol, but its a waste of time thinking about it
Its a waste of time thinking about Terry and Van Horn coming to New York. Terry is an offensive PG just like Starbury is. But Starbury is a better scorer and a better passer. With that in mind, Marbury has been here for 3 years. He has more experience with the teammates and the gameplan. Bringing in terry would disrupt an already leaky chemistry. Van Horn would be a good addition but not good enough to take Marbury out of NY.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GotSkillz92:</div><div class="quote_post">Its a waste of time thinking about Terry and Van Horn coming to New York. Terry is an offensive PG just like Starbury is. But Starbury is a better scorer and a better passer. With that in mind, Marbury has been here for 3 years. He has more experience with the teammates and the gameplan. Bringing in terry would disrupt an already leaky chemistry. Van Horn would be a good addition but not good enough to take Marbury out of NY.</div> Van Horn and Terry are both in the final year of their current deals. If neither works out, then simply don't bring them back. The main goal is to rid the team of Marbury's contract to at least open up the possibility of signing other players who fit into Larry's system.
