Official Game Thread: Rockets at Timberwolves

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  1. chineseafro

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Head is quicker, faster, stronger, and definatley plays better D than Wesley. All the evidence has been in the first 7 games of the season. Wesley has been terrible in just about every aspect of the game. Despite your claim, Head hasn't made many rookie mistakes. Actually, he's been one of the more efficient guards on our team. He's shooting the 3ball better than anybody on the team also. Aslong as Van Gundy keeps playing Wesley over Head, we're going to have a uphill struggle winning games.</div>

    If he plays better D, then why is he getting 10 less minutes a game than Wesley? It's because Wesley is a veteran, that knows how to shut down players.

    Shooting the 3 ball better? A couple of those shots came in trash time, beside that Head hasn't had his shooting skills tested just yet, so let's go back to that in a couple months.

    As for Wesley's shooting, go out and play basketball, but this time instead of playing the regular shorts and shoes, wrap a giant ace bandage around your knee, and try to shoot a few jumpers. See how that affects your shot, Wesley just came off knee surgery, give the man a break.

    Rookie mistakes are silly fouls, carrying the ball etc. Which head has done already.
     
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    umm.. chinesefro i don't know why you are sounding like head is not a good shooter and he made like 100 mistakes... he makes one mistakes per game maybe but his 3s just make the game better... if wesley, anderson, and alston starts to make their 3s like they use to then i wouldn't be that mad that luther didn't play... but so for luther and barry are the only one that can make 3s (besides t-mac)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tr@cy&ya0:</div><div class="quote_post">umm.. chinesefro i don't know why you are sounding like head is not a good shooter and he made like 100 mistakes... he makes one mistakes per game maybe but his 3s just make the game better... if wesley, anderson, and alston starts to make their 3s like they use to then i wouldn't be that mad that luther didn't play... but so for luther and barry are the only one that can make 3s (besides t-mac)</div>

    Did I go out and say that Head was making 100 mistakes? No I didn't, but I did say that he's made rookie mistakes.

    I've said it a million times, David Wesley knows how to play defense. He's a veteran that rarely makes mistakes on the defense side of the ball. I'll take a defensive player over a sparkplug like Mike James any day of the week.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting chineseafro:</div><div class="quote_post">Did I go out and say that Head was making 100 mistakes? No I didn't, but I did say that he's made rookie mistakes.

    I've said it a million times, David Wesley knows how to play defense. He's a veteran that rarely makes mistakes on the defense side of the ball. I'll take a defensive player over a sparkplug like Mike James any day of the week.</div>

    Mike James scored 38 points and had 9 assists in last night's game. If you'd take this year's incarnation of David Wesley over that, then you're crazy.

    On the season, Mike James is shooting over 50% and averaging over 17 points in 30 minutes. That's all-star level production.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting chineseafro:</div><div class="quote_post">As for Wesley's shooting, go out and play basketball, but this time instead of playing the regular shorts and shoes, wrap a giant ace bandage around your knee, and try to shoot a few jumpers. See how that affects your shot, Wesley just came off knee surgery, give the man a break.

    Rookie mistakes are silly fouls, carrying the ball etc. Which head has done already.</div>

    I'd rather have Head do 1 or 2 rookie mistakes a game then cringe everytime I see Wesley shoot, sure it's his knee thats causing him troubles when shooting, but so what? we're a professional team and we have to do what's best for our team and right now I think that's play Head more then Wesley.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">Mike James scored 38 points and had 9 assists in last night's game. If you'd take this year's incarnation of David Wesley over that, then you're crazy.

    On the season, Mike James is shooting over 50% and averaging over 17 points in 30 minutes. That's all-star level production.</div>
    Not to mention Mike James' play has lifted the Raptors to a 0-8 record.

    I've been watching the guy in Toronto, and yes, he's absolutely a beast on the break and at getting to the rim, but don't let those 9 assists deceive you. James had about 5 until the last three minutes of the game when it was pretty clear that the Raptors won't make it back. He has been scoring like a god so far, but many Raptors fans still want Jose Calderon, a rookie, to start, simply because he is much better at getting others the ball. If we still have James and he's starting, then he'd take 15 shots a night at least. Do we really want that?
     
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    To be honest I haven't seen Head make that many rookie mistakes, to be honest out of all the new Rockets acquired this offseason, he's impressed me the most......Wesley has been playing a little better as of late, but I would still like to see Head more often.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting chineseafro:</div><div class="quote_post">If he plays better D, then why is he getting 10 less minutes a game than Wesley? It's because Wesley is a veteran, that knows how to shut down players.

    Shooting the 3 ball better? A couple of those shots came in trash time, beside that Head hasn't had his shooting skills tested just yet, so let's go back to that in a couple months.

    As for Wesley's shooting, go out and play basketball, but this time instead of playing the regular shorts and shoes, wrap a giant ace bandage around your knee, and try to shoot a few jumpers. See how that affects your shot, Wesley just came off knee surgery, give the man a break.

    Rookie mistakes are silly fouls, carrying the ball etc. Which head has done already.</div>
    I truly don't think you actually watch the whole game. If your still promoting Wesley as a "shut down" defender, your looking at the game thru Stevie Wonder glasses[​IMG] . Wesley's defense has been as bad as it's ever been. Head hasn't made rookie mistakes. He's pretty much done everything a rookie should do, play defense, bring energy, hustle, limit mistakes, pass the ball, and hit open jumpers. All of which Wesley isn't doing. If your excuse is he's hurt, then he shouldn't be playing. He's hurting the team tremendoulsy, and he should be sitting right next to Mooch.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Not to mention Mike James' play has lifted the Raptors to a 0-8 record.

    I've been watching the guy in Toronto, and yes, he's absolutely a beast on the break and at getting to the rim, but don't let those 9 assists deceive you. James had about 5 until the last three minutes of the game when it was pretty clear that the Raptors won't make it back. He has been scoring like a god so far, but many Raptors fans still want Jose Calderon, a rookie, to start, simply because he is much better at getting others the ball. If we still have James and he's starting, then he'd take 15 shots a night at least. Do we really want that?</div>

    According to the +/- numbers, the Raptors are +14.0 with James on the court. Granted, they are worse than the opponent regardless, but they aren't as bad when he's playing. Calderon has +9.3, which is also very good.

    And certainly I'd rather have Mike James taking 15 shots a night than what we have now with our guards. We need a third scorer who can get us about 15 ppg, and Mike James was more the capable for that. Particularly now, when it looks like McGrady might be out for a period of time, having Mike James would have been invaluable. James is also a very good perimeter defender and provides a winning attitude. Alston -- not so much.
     

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