source: http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/T...322948-sun.html <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Raptors head coach Sam Mitchell wandered over to Jalen Rose inside the locker room at the Staples Center and gave the veteran swingman a playful tap on the shoulder. "Hang in there man," Mitchell said, as Rose hung his head in frustration following Toronto's 103-100 loss to the L.A. Clippers on Wednesday night -- a game in which Rose shot a dismal 1-for-12 from the field, 1-for-4 from three-point range, and missed two free throws in five attempts. A veteran of 12 seasons in the NBA, Rose is mired in what he describes as the worse shooting slump of his career. After 12 games, he is averaging 34% from the field, down from 46% last season, and is scoring 12.6 points per game, which is a good six points below last year. </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I've never endured something like this," he said, shaking his head. "It's a unique scenario overall - our record and my play. There has been other good things I guess I've been doing out there on the floor, but this team needs me to put the ball in the basket and I haven't been doing that. And that really upsets me.</div> Despite his poor performance lately..we gotta give it to this guy he has never demanded a trade nor spoken out againist the organization. I'm sure Rose will once again start performing pretty well..but what i like abt this guy is that he does not speak againist us
Yes, he is doing the worst he's ever been since joining the league... but I'm glad he hasn't said anything bad about this organization and demanded a trade. He's a good guy with a good heart who's just getting older. Props to Rose big time.
bench him for a couple of games... like last year, so then he has the passion/rejuvinated himself to play great ball... haha
That would work ^ also, i like the fact that he is willing to take all the blame upon himself instead of blaming other players.
he's getting older...what is he now 31? it's all down-hill for Rose now but i wish this guy the best..i think he deserves to win a championship when he comes a F.A
man....seems there have been at least 3 or 4 games this year we'd won if jalen had just stuck the wide open jumpers that he's normally capable of knocking down. i really dont get whats up with him i dont get why people are saying "at least he's not asking for a trade or speaking out agains the organization". i dont get that at all...of course he's not...why would he? we're giving him the starting job and putting him in at crunch time despite his HORRID play. why in gods name would he ask for a trade? we'd be lucky to get a handfull of magic beans in return for jalen at this point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">man....seems there have been at least 3 or 4 games this year we'd won if jalen had just stuck the wide open jumpers that he's normally capable of knocking down. i really dont get whats up with him i dont get why people are saying "at least he's not asking for a trade or speaking out agains the organization". i dont get that at all...of course he's not...why would he? we're giving him the starting job and putting him in at crunch time despite his HORRID play. why in gods name would he ask for a trade? we'd be lucky to get a handfull of magic beans in return for jalen at this point.</div> he would ask for a trade because we are a lottery team Jalen is a vet who probably has 3-4 years left in him he would ask for a trade because he would like to be in a winning team where he has a chance to retire with a championship
31 isnt and shouldnt be even close to the age of retirement. its not THAT old. jalen's still got a few good years left in him. to put it in perspective...Garnett and duncan are both 28 going on 29. Jalen is a year older then ben and rasheed. do any of those guys seem like they are anywhere CLOSE to retirement? id say not. futhermore...jalen himself must know his own situation. his contract is a problem, and his play so far this year is garbage...asking for a trade would make him an even BIGGER problem. who's going to want an over paid, underperforming malcontent? lol...im sure jalen isnt quite that stupid
lol @ Jalen deserves to win a championship, no one deserves to win a championship anyways, if you do, you do, and even if they did, Jalen is far from being on top of that list. I'm not sure why Jalen would ask for a trade, he makes so much, and at this point is not worth his contract, he's getting to start and play big minutes which is far from a gurantee for him on other teams. His contract is going to expire in what, 2 years, so when he's 33 he can go join all the championship teams he wants.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">31 isnt and shouldnt be even close to the age of retirement. its not THAT old. jalen's still got a few good years left in him. to put it in perspective...Garnett and duncan are both 28 going on 29. Jalen is a year older then ben and rasheed. do any of those guys seem like they are anywhere CLOSE to retirement? id say not. futhermore...jalen himself must know his own situation. his contract is a problem, and his play so far this year is garbage...asking for a trade would make him an even BIGGER problem. who's going to want an over paid, underperforming malcontent? lol...im sure jalen isnt quite that stupid</div> What he meant was that despite the fact that Jalen is on a slump, his situation in being with the Raps, especially now that their rebuilding the team...he still hasn't spoken out in the media, unlike other veterans would do so at this point in time. I have to respect Jalen a lot because he could be on a team like Miami or San Antonia or Cleveland, but he is still noble and shows his loyalty to the Raps by just sticking with it, even if its a really tough time right now. As far as what you said..."why would he want to be traded when he's getting the minutes and the starting role..." actually, if it was anybody else, i don't think starting or being put to be play in clutch situtations makes the difference playing for a contender. You can't just say he doesn't want to be traded because everyone knows the thought goes through his mind all the time now that he's getting older, which is why you have to admire his mentality to stay focused and stay loyal to his team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">man....seems there have been at least 3 or 4 games this year we'd won if jalen had just stuck the wide open jumpers that he's normally capable of knocking down. i really dont get whats up with him i dont get why people are saying "at least he's not asking for a trade or speaking out agains the organization". i dont get that at all...of course he's not...why would he? we're giving him the starting job and putting him in at crunch time despite his HORRID play. why in gods name would he ask for a trade? we'd be lucky to get a handfull of magic beans in return for jalen at this point.</div> that was mean. i trust the dude when he says he wants to win, thats usually code word in raptor land for trade me to a contending team. and i do think jalen can play crunch time for any team in the league cause he's got an amazing sense of the moment underscored by a competitive instinct. jalen for 35-40 minutues is horrid cause he's prone to bad defense and selfish shots. however, jalen for 20-25 minutes against second line defenders could be the sixth man of the year. thats what i think his role on the raptors or any other team should be. but how do u get an athlete to believe he isn't as good as he was yesterday and still compel him to perform? athletes don't have a grasp on history, they live in the moment and jalen thinks he defies the ageing process.
I think his age is catching up with him. Does anybody else notice a lack of speed when he turns the corner? Compared to last year, defenders seem to find him a lot more predictable on offense. They don't bite on his pump fakes as much, and if he decides to take one-on-one, they're easily able to keep up with him. Unless he gets his shot working, I don't see this changing either. The way he's been playing, it looks like Jalen can't be a primary option on our offense anymore.
With Jalen, I think he genuinely likes the city, the team, the fans, and his teammates. Like Mike James, when he came to Toronto people where wondering what reaction he would have being shipped to the Toronto Raptors. He bought a red leather jacket with a red maple leaf. He has been class. HELL NO, he is not worth the money he is paid. I have liked having Jalen in Toronto over the last couple of season. When he goes, I hope he does have the chance to compete for a championship. I agree that no one 'deserves' it however I personally would like to see him have that opportunity. I personally like his character and you want to see those people you like, succeed. He will get out of his slump this year, he will contribute. This has been a humbling experience for him and maybe this could work out for everyone on the Raps. 2 games ago was the first time CB4 was THE GUY in the crunch. Jalen has given it up to Bosh during that time when he would usually force things. It has been great to watch, though we haven't been successful. Like most fans in Toronto, I am not satisfied with just talent. I want people who want to be here OR at least fake that they do. I would rather have Jalen on our team then Vince.
Jalen never really beat people off the dribble, that's why it's so amazing how he was scoring so much, he used the least athletic ability possible, kinda like how Sam Cassell scores.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">I think his age is catching up with him. Does anybody else notice a lack of speed when he turns the corner? Compared to last year, defenders seem to find him a lot more predictable on offense. They don't bite on his pump fakes as much, and if he decides to take one-on-one, they're easily able to keep up with him. Unless he gets his shot working, I don't see this changing either. The way he's been playing, it looks like Jalen can't be a primary option on our offense anymore.</div> you kids that say this really dont know what you're talking about. you're clearly too young. 31 is not old. even in the nba...its still young. for someone who's battled injuries for their carrer, its old...but someone like jalen or cat mobley...or how about steve nash? he's roughly the same age as jalen...is age catching up with the MVP!? really...stop saying its his age, because you're clearly too young to understand that 31 is NOT that old
Jalen Anthony Rose 6' 8" 217 lbs. Detroit, Michigan January 30, 1973 Jalen is 32 going on 33, and since im a yr older than Jalen when you reach 30ish your body cant handle it, yes you can still do some of the things you used to do, but its in spurts...when i play ball now with these young 20 yr olds, man they can run like its out of style...i feel for ya Jalen...no way he as 3 or 4 yrs left in him. Im sorry to say, but 33 yr old players are dinosaurs in the NBA, the top players are in their 20's, the only guys that are still dominating in their 30's are Shaq (when he plays) and Iverson. Look at webber, yah he still can play (when he plays) but cant dominate anymore. Raptors should just use Jalen as the 6th man. Have a rotation of: Araujo Bosh Villanueva MoPete Mike james Reserves: Rose Calderon Graham
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">you kids that say this really dont know what you're talking about. you're clearly too young. 31 is not old. even in the nba...its still young. for someone who's battled injuries for their carrer, its old...but someone like jalen or cat mobley...or how about steve nash? he's roughly the same age as jalen...is age catching up with the MVP!? really...stop saying its his age, because you're clearly too young to understand that 31 is NOT that old</div> First of all, why're you bringing up my age? I've been watching basketball long enough and I don't need some punk talking to me like I'm a child. Second, are you honestly ignorant enough to believe that all players age at exactly the same rate? Of course Nash hasn't lost his quickness at his age, but they're two completely different players. This ain't Dynasty Mode on NBA Live, and players don't automatically start to decline at a certain age. What I said came from observing him play. He hasn't been able to roll off screens or even put the ball on the floor as quick as he did last year. I see a slower Rose who has become more predictable to his defenders and I chalk it up to age. For a player like Rose, who already wasn't that athletic, it is entirely reasonable that he could have lost some of his speed over the offseason. If you have another reason for his decline in production you could've stated it (notice how I put it forward as a question?), instead acting like a dumbass.
