there is nobody really doing well in their sophomore year now except dwight howard, everybody else is waaaaaaaaaack, do you think there will be a star/superstar in the future from this draft class??
Call me a homer, but I believe Andre Iguodala will become a star in this league. He's young, athletic, hard working and always looking to improve himself. He's not having a bad season himself, he's averaging 12.5 ppg on 56% shooting and 50% from three point land (remember the biggest knock on him coming into the league was that he couldn't shoot), 7 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.3 steals per game. He's a great all around player and knows how to play to the game. Let's forget... His dunks are vicious too!
Your a Bulls fan you should know Ben Gordon and Luol Deng have both emerged as early season candidates for this years sixth man of the year award. Ben Gordon has been leading a very balanced Bulls team in scoring while Luol Deng ranks third on the team is scoring. Two picks from last years draft having that type of effect on a team, and not get the recognition they deserve that is wrong. Then Andre Iguodala is another superstar in the making he has improved his three point shot tremendously and is averaging around fifteen a game this year. He has had some games where his scoring has not been up to par, but most of the time it was because he was in foul trouble, and nothing was really wrong with his game. To be doing what he is doing on the offensive end of the court while averaging only eight shots a game is astounding, not to mention being a legitimate shut down defender in the league. Do I even need to mention last years rookie of the year Emeka Okafor with Raymond Felton and Sean May arriving in Charlotte not to mention the big games so far this year by Gerald Wallace and Kareem Rush Emeka’s performance has been taken for granted. He is a good defender, and can do a lot more than many people expected him to be capable of on the offensive end of the court. Another player who has yet to make a name for himself due to injury Shawn Livingston. When he gets back if he can build up his endurance a little to prevent injury then he can be another great player from that draft class. Jameer Nelson as well in a limited role he is averaging 10 points a game. Chris Duhon had a triple double as well this year, and has nearly doubled his numbers in the assists and points per game categories. Sebastian Telfair and Delonte West I can go on and on, but I think I have proven my point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kunlun:</div><div class="quote_post">Call me a homer, but I believe Andre Iguodala will become a star in this league. He's young, athletic, hard working and always looking to improve himself. He's not having a bad season himself, he's averaging 12.5 ppg on 56% shooting and 50% from three point land (remember the biggest knock on him coming into the league was that he couldn't shoot), 7 rebounds, 2.5 assists and 1.3 steals per game. He's a great all around player and knows how to play to the game. Let's forget... His dunks are vicious too!</div> I love watching Iggy. When I saw some of the stuff he did at Arizona the year before he declared, he just blew me away. Then Scott Van Pelt starting calling him Andre 3000, and we had liftoff. This guy is a marketing dream, a sound all around player, and an all out good guy. The more we see of him the better. I think this year's playoffs will not only hold him in high regard as he gets some national attention, it will also have him strutting his stuff come next year, as the Sixers net a couple more network games.
First off, it's far too early to even discuss this draft class, it's only been two seasons for these players. Give these guys at least 5 years before you start evaluating their performances. As of now, I think this was one of the strongest draft classes and not the worst. Look at the 2000 draft class, there's not a single All Star from that year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Look at the 2000 draft class, there's not a single All Star from that year.</div> Pardon me, Kenyon Martin anyone? I'll try to whisper that next time so as not to offend you. Michael Redd while we're at it? And I give that class a pass for its contribution of some of the funniest names, nicknames, or images the league has ever seen. I belive the Custodian's bio shot on NBA.com was enough right there, and as for Igor Rakocevic and Hanno Mottola, I think I need say no more as testament to their unintentional comedy.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Squishface:</div><div class="quote_post">Pardon me, Kenyon Martin anyone? I'll try to whisper that next time so as not to offend you. Michael Redd while we're at it? And I give that class a pass for its contribution of some of the funniest names, nicknames, or images the league has ever seen. I belive the Custodian's bio shot on NBA.com was enough right there, and as for Igor Rakocevic and Hanno Mottola, I think I need say no more as testament to their unintentional comedy.</div> I forgot about Michael Redd, I conveniently forgot about KMart being one though. Was he an injury reserve or did the fans foolishly vote him in? Either way Jason Kidd deserves all the credit for him being considered. Speaking of comedy nicknames from the 2000 class ... Hidayet Turkoglu, Why? because the "H" is silent. He also had one of the goofier hairdos in the league when he was with the Kings, blonde highlights creep me out.
I'm glad we got Turkoglu now, he's actually been a pretty good player for us. Thank god he doesn't have the blond highlights still though. Dwight Howard is going to be a superstar. He's already one of the best rebounders in the league(if not the best). His offense is improving a lot. He is starting to feel more comfortable with the ball and is now starting to get the hang of double teams. Does anyone realize that he's avg 15 pts and 13 boards? 13 boards and he's my age(19). At the end of this year(like last 15-20 games, when he gets comfortable), he will be getting 20+ ppg and 12-15 boards a game with ease every single night. Not to mention the durability factor. He hasn't missed a start in 96 games right now. Next year he is going to bust out onto the scene similar to Amare did last year. That could just be my bias talking though. btw, Jameer Nelson has been great in the 4th quarter. I think he can be a solid starting role player on another team or if we get rid of Francis. He's an asset to our bench right now and always is in the ball game during crunch time.
Well it depends on how you associate a draft, if you are looking for guys who are or will be superstars then the 04-05 may come up a bit short...but I do think this draft produce alot of players that can be special role players and eventually be quality members of good teams down the line. I think you look at a guy like Emeka Okafor, I dont ever think he will be a franchise superstar...but I think as the Bobcats develope and they do obtain that superstar player...Emeka can fit into his role as the 3rd or 4th best player, which I think he would be on a really good team. But right now, people look at him as the face of the franchise because he is the first ever pick. I dont think he is a guy that can carry a franchise..but he can be a very solid building block. And then you look at some others guys like what Chicago has with Duhon and Gordon...both are probably giving a little more responsblity then they should because the Bulls are still in developement stage. But as the Bulls get better and those guys can just focus on what they are godo at... Their are more guys like Trevor Ariza, JR Smith, Josh Smith etc... that have alot of potential but they are still so young that they havent really discovered what their basketball roles are maybe a few of those guys will be all-stars, maybe not...but they havent lerned the right way to for fill there potential yet, we dont know....they are living off their raw athletism as of now...so you cant really see what they bring. I think Andre Iguodula is kind of in that same boat..but I think playing under Lute Olsen for the time he did, help his game develope more of a niche then those other guys. But when its all said and done I think you will see that this draft produce alot of quality role players more then anything else....guys that can be parts to a successful team, just not the mega superstars of a Wade or James that came the year before.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">Well it depends on how you associate a draft, if you are looking for guys who are or will be superstars then the 04-05 may come up a bit short...but I do think this draft produce alot of players that can be special role players and eventually be quality members of good teams down the line. I think you look at a guy like Emeka Okafor, I dont ever think he will be a franchise superstar...but I think as the Bobcats develope and they do obtain that superstar player...Emeka can fit into his role as the 3rd or 4th best player, which I think he would be on a really good team. But right now, people look at him as the face of the franchise because he is the first ever pick. I dont think he is a guy that can carry a franchise..but he can be a very solid building block. And then you look at some others guys like what Chicago has with Duhon and Gordon...both are probably giving a little more responsblity then they should because the Bulls are still in developement stage. But as the Bulls get better and those guys can just focus on what they are godo at... Their are more guys like Trevor Ariza, JR Smith, Josh Smith etc... that have alot of potential but they are still so young that they havent really discovered what their basketball roles are maybe a few of those guys will be all-stars, maybe not...but they havent lerned the right way to for fill there potential yet, we dont know....they are living off their raw athletism as of now...so you cant really see what they bring. I think Andre Iguodula is kind of in that same boat..but I think playing under Lute Olsen for the time he did, help his game develope more of a niche then those other guys. But when its all said and done I think you will see that this draft produce alot of quality role players more then anything else....guys that can be parts to a successful team, just not the mega superstars of a Wade or James that came the year before.</div> Agreed, I don't think people give enough credit to the guys that come up with 75-79 overall ratings in the video games. That's just a silly example, but not enough people lend credence to the idea that dynasties start with superstars and are built on the backs of hard-working, marginally talented, and intelligent role players. Players that know the roles they must fit, and the situations they must excel in. I've heard too much talk of marginal players getting too much money. Those players are the ones that make championship teams click, and championships are worth more to an organization monetarily than some five or six mill a year deal to that glue guy who makes the offense go or comes up with that key stop. 04's gonna be chock full of 'em.
Well. Not to me. Spurs are thrilled with their pick. I think we'll all learn soon enough after Pop is done with him in Europe.
future superstars? Okafor, howard, igoudala..the smiths no not gordon, if he doesnt feel comfortable of being a starter he cant be a superstar
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting superman32:</div><div class="quote_post">future superstars? Okafor, howard, igoudala..the smiths no not gordon, if he doesnt feel comfortable of being a starter he cant be a superstar</div> I disagree. First off, I can see Okafor, D12, and Iggy capable of becoming a superstar in this league. But JR and Josh I don`t see the name of superstar for them. Second, just because a player isn`t comfortable with his position he plays on the court, doesn`t shut out his chance of becoming a great star in the game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting superman32:</div><div class="quote_post">future superstars? Okafor, howard, igoudala..the smiths no not gordon, if he doesnt feel comfortable of being a starter he cant be a superstar</div> What? Gordon doesn't feel comfortable as a starter? I'd like to know where you got that one from. Most likely it was pulled out of your .. Just because Gordon may not start in his 2nd year in the league, does not mean anything with him becoming a superstar. The Bulls have Hinrich and Duhon at the 1 and 2 and they both are playing good together, that is why he is not starting. And I think Luol Deng has a chance to be really good. He has the athleticism and body to become a star. We'll see how he developes.
And personally I don't see Okafor becoming a superstar. Actually, I don't see him getting THAT much better than he already is. Just some feeling, could be wrong.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ~Fatality~:</div><div class="quote_post">What? Gordon doesn't feel comfortable as a starter? I'd like to know where you got that one from. Most likely it was pulled out of your .. Just because Gordon may not start in his 2nd year in the league, does not mean anything with him becoming a superstar. The Bulls have Hinrich and Duhon at the 1 and 2 and they both are playing good together, that is why he is not starting. And I think Luol Deng has a chance to be really good. He has the athleticism and body to become a star. We'll see how he developes.</div> I got it from NBA.com, in the preseason, he started and he even said himself he didnt feel rigth starting. and nooooow he wants to start again, and he might be traded to denver or indiana
I didn't see any mention of Devin Harris. He would've probably been on the All Rookie team last year had he not been picked by the mavs. Don't know if he'll be a future star or not..He may become one if he becomes a starter and gets more play time.
Emeka Okafor IMO will never really become a dominating player in the league. He will be a solid 15 and 10 player throughtout his carreer IMO. He may get an all-star appearence or two, but that's reallly all I see from him. Dwight Howard will become a superstar in this league. I think the Magic made a good move by picking him although I didn't at first. This guy is a beast. He had a better rookie season than several other high school superstars such as Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett. He will be an all-star by next year.
Okafor won't be a superstar. He'll be a solid double double guy with great defense. Howard, however, is going to be a superstar.
