Frye rookie of the month

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  1. Bleed Green

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    Frye's definitely been playing amazing. But I don't think anybody could beat out Chris Paul for this award.
     
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    Channing Frye for ROTY!
     
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    I think we should all give Isiah the credit for drafting Frye when most of us (included me) didn“t want him in NY.
    I really like what I have seen from this guy
     
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    I don't think any of us ever thought Channing would be playing the way he has... and for LB to say that Channing will start even after Curry comes back... I'm amazed at how fast he's progressing.

    I like the move... with Channings shooting it will definitely open up Curry's game cause he won't be double teamed as much.

    Congrats Channing.
     
  6. Mr. J

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    I'm happy for Frye. When he first got drafted, many labeled him as a bust and not being "tough enough" for the NBA. One thing people neglected to mention about Frye was his work ethic which, in my opinion, is the most important aspect to look at when drafting a player. Frye has a great work ethic and is much more aggressive than what people label him as. If he continues progressing like this, he will definitely be on the All Rookie First Team and might even give Chris Paul some serious competition for Rookie of the Year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">One thing people neglected to mention about Frye was his work ethic which, in my opinion, is the most important aspect to look at when drafting a player. Frye has a great work ethic and is much more aggressive than what people label him as. If he continues progressing like this, he will definitely be on the All Rookie First Team and might even give Chris Paul some serious competition for Rookie of the Year.</div>

    Actually, the one thing people neglected to mention about Frye was that he'd be playing about 27-30 minutes every night for a team with a 33% winning percentage.

    If you're going to compare Channing Frye to any rookie, you should at least compare him to a rookie in comparable circumstances. For example, Danny Granger's playing for Indiana, one of the hottest teams in the league, so he's not going to get the playing time and isn't going to put up the stats to be a Rookie of the Month, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be a stud in New York. If you want to talk about how the Knicks did in the draft this prematurely, then compare him to Charlie Villanueva or some other player who gets big minutes and a lot of touches on a horrible team.

    Sorry, I had to take a shot. Frye has exceeded expectations, but you're going a little far with the whole "Rookie of the Year" line. I don't think it's close at this point. What Chris Paul has done for the Hornets so far has been nothing short of amazing - 16.3 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 6.9 apg, and 2.0 spg. Most importantly, the Hornets have a 53% winning percentage, which is enough to put them in the playoffs. The team finished 18-64 last year for God's sake.
     
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    Good on Channing.

    Chris Paul is clearly the best rookie in the NBA whilst Channing is in the next group with Deron Williams and Charlie V.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, the one thing people neglected to mention about Frye was that he'd be playing about 27-30 minutes every night for a team with a 33% winning percentage.

    If you're going to compare Channing Frye to any rookie, you should at least compare him to a rookie in comparable circumstances. For example, Danny Granger's playing for Indiana, one of the hottest teams in the league, so he's not going to get the playing time and isn't going to put up the stats to be a Rookie of the Month, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be a stud in New York. If you want to talk about how the Knicks did in the draft this prematurely, then compare him to Charlie Villanueva or some other player who gets big minutes and a lot of touches on a horrible team.

    Sorry, I had to take a shot. Frye has exceeded expectations, but you're going a little far with the whole "Rookie of the Year" line. I don't think it's close at this point. What Chris Paul has done for the Hornets so far has been nothing short of amazing - 16.3 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 6.9 apg, and 2.0 spg. Most importantly, the Hornets have a 53% winning percentage, which is enough to put them in the playoffs. The team finished 18-64 last year for God's sake.</div>
    Even though they have a .333 win percentage, they?re still three games back and are in the mix for the Atlantic division crown. They?ve also had one of the hardest schedules playing ten of fifteen on the road. I wasn?t comparing Channing Frye to anyone, all I was saying was if he continues progressing he?ll give Paul some competition. At the end of things, I, too, see Chris Paul taking the Rookie of the Year, but I think Frye will give him a fight, feel me?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Even though they have a .333 win percentage, they?re still three games back and are in the mix for the Atlantic division crown. They?ve also had one of the hardest schedules playing ten of fifteen on the road. I wasn?t comparing Channing Frye to anyone, all I was saying was if he continues progressing he?ll give Paul some competition. At the end of things, I, too, see Chris Paul taking the Rookie of the Year, but I think Frye will give him a fight, feel me?</div>

    The fact of the matter is that they're 33%. Playing in a weak division doesn't sugarcoat it. I mean, the Grizzlies have the 3rd best record in the NBA but are only 2nd in their division because of the Spurs. Your rank in your division doesn't mean anything. Everyone plays hard schedules too. Look at some of the teams Paul has played - Sacramento, @ Cleveland, @ Houston, Dallas, @ Miami, Denver, @ Philadelphia, Minnesota, @ Seattle, @ Golden State, @ Denver, and Philadelphia again. That's not hard? The Knicks schedule hasn't been harder at all. If anything, the Hornets have had the stronger schedule.

    I see where you're coming from in saying that he'll challenge Paul for the ROY, but it's more like a dream than a realistic possibility, and his numbers are certainly not a great indication of how good the draft was for the Knicks.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">The fact of the matter is that they're 33%. Playing in a weak division doesn't sugarcoat it. I mean, the Grizzlies have the 3rd best record in the NBA but are only 2nd in their division because of the Spurs. Your rank in your division doesn't mean anything. Everyone plays hard schedules too. Look at some of the teams Paul has played - Sacramento, @ Cleveland, @ Houston, Dallas, @ Miami, Denver, @ Philadelphia, Minnesota, @ Seattle, @ Golden State, @ Denver, and Philadelphia again. That's not hard? The Knicks schedule hasn't been harder at all. If anything, the Hornets have had the stronger schedule.

    I see where you're coming from in saying that he'll challenge Paul for the ROY, but it's more like a dream than a realistic possibility, and his numbers are certainly not a great indication of how good the draft was for the Knicks.</div>
    I agree with you on the Hornets schedule, but because the Hornets are doing much better than expected despite a hard schedule, doesn't mean the Knicks should. All it shows is the Hornets are a better team than the Knicks. Frye has put up some good stats against good defenders like Chandler, Dalembert, the Wallaces, Ratliff and Przybilla, Adonal Foyle, and Marcus Camby. I'm sure the same can be said about Paul and some perimeter defenders. All I'm saying is although Paul is the frontrunner for Rookie of the Year (and will probably stay that way), there will be some fight for the award.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting marcelonbraga:</div><div class="quote_post">I think we should all give Isiah the credit for drafting Frye when most of us (included me) didn?t want him in NY.
    I really like what I have seen from this guy</div>
    Totally agreed.

    Which is the reason why Isiah Thomas should be the head of scouting, not a GM.
     

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