Baron Davis: Player of the Week

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  1. YayAreaFanatic

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    I wasnt expecting that but nice job BD. Hopefully hes got his shot back for good and he can get a few more of these.
     
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    Gotta love this part.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Combined with Jason Richardson?s Player of the Week nod last March 20, the Warriors have now had four of the last 10 award winners. Prior to Richardson?s award, Golden State had not had a Player of the Week winner since Tim Hardaway claimed it in November, 1994.</div>
     
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    Thanks to Davis, I lost to custodianrule2 in the assists department of our fantasy league, even though I had Nash on my roster. Baron was great this past week, scoring, passing and make threes in an amazing fashion. Definitely well deserved.
     
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    Baron Davis is one of the more talented players in the league and his skills are awesome. I'm glad a warrior won but JRich should have won this award. He is the heart of this team who wills himself to anything. One can usually assess that a player can only get better to a certain point but JRich has improved at a rate which has dumbfounded us all. Baron's shot will come around and things should even out between the 2 but as of now, it's no contest JRich has been the heart of this team.
     
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    I agree Jrich has been the heart and soul of this team on offense and defense, but I guess Baron gets more props because he gets people open and delivers the ball so other guys can score a lot easier.
     
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    And without Baron we just suck.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">Thanks to Davis, I lost to custodianrule2 in the assists department of our fantasy league, even though I had Nash on my roster. Baron was great this past week, scoring, passing and make threes in an amazing fashion. Definitely well deserved.</div>

    [​IMG] Thanks. I can't wait for Grant Hill and Amare Stoudamire to get healthy now.
     
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    BD is just amazing
    i'm really hoping that he makes the all-star game this year
    and btw you guys got the better outcome of that deal that brought BD
    like wth? you didint even give a first round pick

    it was basically speedy for BD
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">BD is just amazing
    i'm really hoping that he makes the all-star game this year
    and btw you guys got the better outcome of that deal that brought BD
    like wth? you didint even give a first round pick

    it was basically speedy for BD</div>

    Which is why we're doing so good right now, we barely gave up anything for an all-star.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    I'm still a big fan of Speedy Claxton, but Baron Davis is an upgrade in so many different areas.

    I'd say the best attribute of Baron Davis is he can play injured and still have that huge floor presence if he's making the effort to drive. He has excellent one-on-one skills like Claxton, he can steal the ball like Claxton, but he's stronger, has the same leaping skills, has more weapons on him like an outside shot, better floor vision, great interior passing, and a strong post game. Baron makes the most difficult plays seem easy and the great thing about it is he doesn't need any memorized playsets to do this. He just sort of creates it as he goes along and the rest of the team stands ready to catch a pass.

    He is sort of like Steve Nash in that he makes open court play successful.
     
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    I believe he has passed Nash for most assist this season so far.
     
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    I believe Baron passed Nash and is currently the league leader in assists. According to Fantasy...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">I believe he has passed Nash for most assist this season so far.</div>

    Nash has more assists per game and has played 2 games less.
     
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    Well more assists per game, but overall assists Baron has more. Currently Baron has 164 assists to Nash's 156. But at the rate Baron is going his average may go above Nash's. And Baron has 30 stls to Nash's 17. Baron is a thief [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">Well more assists per game, but overall assists Baron has more. Currently Baron has 164 assists to Nash's 156. But at the rate Baron is going his average may go above Nash's. And Baron has 30 stls to Nash's 17. Baron is a thief [​IMG]</div>
    Again, Nash has played two games less, of course his overall assist numbers aren't going to be the highest at that point in time. Now when Baron and Nash have played equal number of games each, we'll see who has higher assist numbers overall. It will be Nash right now and probably more so when Amare Stoudamire comes back and gets his high fg% game going.

    I'm not complaining I'm telling it like it is. I think Baron Davis does a lot more than Nash overall. I understand that completely. I just wish Davis was a better shooter. He's pretty shaky from the field and at the line. I like a point guard that will hit at least hit 44% from the field, take more midrange shots and sink 80% at the foul line. Otherwise the defense will dare Baron to shoot away from the basket and won't mind fouling him harder so he doesn't make the basket. If you look at Nash he's great at finding that small pocket where he can take a high % midrange shot off the dribble. He sometimes does it while fading away so it's even harder to contest. Both he and Baron Davis are quite the trick shots as well as the playmakers, but I think Baron needs to get the inside/midrange shot going before he starts bombing away.

    Nash is gifted in that he is both quick and tall, but he's also gifted in that he can really flat out shoot. Some of the best players in the game were guys you could not leave alone otherwise it was automatically in.
     
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    Good, I'm happy for Baron and the team.
     
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    Jrich gets the numbers but there is no way he's the "heart and soul" of the team.

    Baron is the engine that makes the Warriors go. Without Baron, JRich is dribbling around trying to create a shot or just throwing up the uncontested 22 footers that everyone will give him.

    Baron without JRich? Well I bet that off guard is still going to get at least 16 ppg. Warriors without Baron? Do will really need to think about that again? Mookie, Speedy, DFish? Ugh.

    Baron does it not only offensively, but defensively. Baron sets the tone and will pressure the PG to create a turnover at times and also knows when to help down in the post without giving up too many easy buckets.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Jrich gets the numbers but there is no way he's the "heart and soul" of the team.

    Baron is the engine that makes the Warriors go. Without Baron, JRich is dribbling around trying to create a shot or just throwing up the uncontested 22 footers that everyone will give him.

    Baron without JRich? Well I bet that off guard is still going to get at least 16 ppg. Warriors without Baron? Do will really need to think about that again? Mookie, Speedy, DFish? Ugh.

    Baron does it not only offensively, but defensively. Baron sets the tone and will pressure the PG to create a turnover at times and also knows when to help down in the post without giving up too many easy buckets.</div>

    +1

    It is clear to me that with the team we have, having a PG like Baron Davis is key. I swear I've been saying this for years and years.

    At the moment, I can't think of any other PG that would be a better fit for the W's right now. Baron Davis + the rest of the W's is a match made in heaven.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Jrich gets the numbers but there is no way he's the "heart and soul" of the team.

    Baron is the engine that makes the Warriors go. Without Baron, JRich is dribbling around trying to create a shot or just throwing up the uncontested 22 footers that everyone will give him.
    </div> Both players are the heart and soul of this team then, but obviously Baron Davis is the true franchise player and guy that makes everyone better. I think Jason Richardson works very hard on both ends, but the position he plays and the type of player he is will never make him a franchise worthy guy. His job is to score and play defense. I still think he's a catalyst in his own way. He brings energy, effort, toughness, hustle, and tremendous work ethic night in and night out. This was before Baron Davis.

    Jrich was the only star on this team before Baron Davis came. He was one of the few making the effort to play offense and defense and was putting up some huge numbers to pull the Warriors out of a losing streak. Besides it's not like Dunleavy Jr., Murphy, Fisher, or Foyle was helping him out by taking away the pressure on him. He was the only guy who was constantly having to face defenses designed to stop him and nobody else stepped up. All through that he manages to get at least 3 or 5 assists per night and 2nd chance opportunities with his 22 points. Who besides Jrich was really contributing to that effort and slowing the opposing guy down on D?

    Without Jrich, it wouldn't be the same. It would probably be high volume shooting Baron at 35% field goals and unless Pietrus has really transformed, the 16 ppg would also come at a price (since his game is really flawed). Nobody can underrate Jason Richardson after what he's done. Anytime a team gets two all-star caliber 2nd or top tier players they are going somewhere in this league. Obviously the better of the two, gets the most credit, but I think Jason Richardson deserves to have that title of "the heart and soul" of this team. He does his job like a shooting guard should do without being selfish. The only thing he needs to work on is his ballhandling, free throws, and his 3-point shooting.
     

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