Official JustBBall.Com Poll (Week 4) -- Updated

<font color="DarkRed">NCAA Division I:
Official JustBBall.Com Poll
(Week 5)</font>

This is the Official JustBBall.Com Top 25 college basketball poll which comes out every Monday or Tuesday, with the number of first-place votes in parentheses and total points outside the parentheses. Team records are through the date the poll was released:

1) Connecticut - 149 (5)
2) Villanova - 144 (1)
3) Duke - 139
4) Washington - 124
5) Oklahoma - 116
6) George Washington - 112
7) Gonzaga - 110
8) Illinois - 110
9) Michigan State - 109
10) Memphis - 108
11) Louisville - 85
12) Florida - 84
13) Boston College - 72
14) Indiana - 72
15) UCLA - 67
16) Ohio State - 49
17) Michigan - 48
18) Maryland - 40
19) Tennessee - 37
20) Texas - 36
21) North Carolina State - 34
22) Pittsburgh - 22
23) North Carolina - 22
24) Iowa - 19
25) Nevada - 17

<u>Others Receiving Votes:</u>

Wake Forest (9), Houston (4), Indiana State (3), Wisconsin (3), Iona (2), Kentucky (2), La Salle (1), Iowa State (1)

The Board of Selected Members is made up of 7 quality college basketball writers at JustBBall.Com. All are respected and credible members. The 2005-06 voters: 44Thrilla, C.K., Schaddy, Shapecity, Shard, UKOwnstheSEC, and Voodoo Child.

Dropped From Rankings -
#18 Wake Forest

 

I love that Duke doesn't get a free pass #1 ranking here. I guess I was right to be skeptical about BC and Oregon last poll. I think Bucknell should have more votes, and I watched them lose to Villanova. Nice to see my boys Ohio State in there, but what is with them having only played three games? Is that like the least games so far in all of NCAA hoops?

 

I definitley agree with Duke not as number one, but why is texas number 4? And Villinova Number 2. I also think Connecticut is very overrated, because Boone cant play D on players That know what theyre doing.



AV8., Out.

 

Good job guys, Im suprised that Duke does not get 1 1st place vote.

 

Duke's still not 1st after they gave Texas the Beat Down?

 

The date is 12-06, which was one week ago. Week 4's poll should be up sometime on Tuesday.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">The date is 12-06, which was one week ago. Week 4's poll should be up sometime on Tuesday.</div>


Well 1st off Twintowers confused me, next it says Shape edited it today. So I'm confused

 

I was just saying that Duke got 0(zero) 1st place votes, that should be better phrased.

 

Oklahoma is #4, do you think they should be so high?
Florida is #15, do you think they should be so low?

No votes for midmajors like Houston or Bucknell? I like Xavier and some of the MVC teams too.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fast Luck:</div><div class="quote_post">Oklahoma is #4, do you think they should be so high?
Florida is #15, do you think they should be so low?

No votes for midmajors like Houston or Bucknell? I like Xavier and some of the MVC teams too.</div>

I agree that Oklahoma is too high, but not by a lot. Afterall, their only loss on the year was to Villanova, our #2 team in the nation, and the Sooners were in control of that one until the later stages of the game. I think I had them at #6 in mine. I just didn't feel like ranking teams over them who are untalented but have padded undefeated records.

Florida is deinitely not too low. In fact, I think we're the only poll in America who has them right. They've got two above average wins with Syracuse and Wake Forest, but most of us don't feel like those wins were that great of quality. Personally, I feel like Syracuse is close to the most overrated team in the NCAA, and Wake Forest is decent, but nowhere near that generous #16 ranking ESPN gives them. The ESPN poll just ranks the Gators #6 because the voters jumped the gun when they won the Coaches vs. Cancer tournament and shot them from barely receiving votes to #14 or so, and because their schedule has been nothing but cupcakes since, they've just kind of fallen into that #6 ranking, very undeservingly. When you compare them to George Washington, Illinois, or Michigan, they're younger, less talented, and really don't have much more to show for their season as both teams.

I don't think that Bucknell and Houston deserve rankings. However, I personally put Indiana State and Iona in my rankings and placed George Washington higher than most people probably would have, so I definitely showed love to mid-majors.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree that Oklahoma is too high, but not by a lot. Afterall, their only loss on the year was to Villanova, our #2 team in the nation, and the Sooners were in control of that one until the later stages of the game. I think I had them at #6 in mine. I just didn't feel like ranking teams over them who are untalented but have padded undefeated records.

Florida is deinitely not too low. In fact, I think we're the only poll in America who has them right. They've got two above average wins with Syracuse and Wake Forest, but most of us don't feel like those wins were that great of quality. Personally, I feel like Syracuse is close to the most overrated team in the NCAA, and Wake Forest is decent, but nowhere near that generous #16 ranking ESPN gives them. The ESPN poll just ranks the Gators #6 because the voters jumped the gun when they won the Preseason NIT and shot them from barely receiving votes to #14 or so, and because their schedule has been nothing but cupcakes since, they've just kind of fallen into that #6 ranking, very undeservingly. When you compare them to George Washington, Illinois, or Michigan, they're younger, less talented, and really don't have much more to show for their season as both teams.

I don't think that Bucknell and Houston deserve rankings. However, I personally put Indiana State and Iona in my rankings and placed George Washington higher than most people probably would have, so I definitely showed love to mid-majors.</div>

I will disagree of course. We still beat 2 ranked teams are are 4-0 against the Big East and ACC. I think 6th is too high, but I would put us around 10-12. Our team is so fun to watch because they love playing ball together. They have such great chemistry. No one wants to be the superstar, they are happier getting others involved then them scoring themselves. We are playing Billy ball again! We just do the little things that give us wins. Al Horford and Joakim Noah get a defensive board and immediately start the break and 8 times out of 10 they make the right decision and stay under control. Taureen Green is better than Roberson. He shoots better, plays defense and passes to others. We are screwed though if Brewer or Green goes down. Our depth is our biggest concern and we don't have anyone to be consistent in backing up the PG. I see Hodge developing into a good backup, but not yet.

Our schedule is a joke though. If we can beat Miami and Georgia on the road, we could easily go 17-0 and with everyone in front of us losing, we could be ranked #1 at some point this season. I'm just hoping that this success isn't going to our heads and we lose a game that we should win.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GatorsowntheSEC:</div><div class="quote_post">I will disagree of course. We still beat 2 ranked teams are are 4-0 against the Big East and ACC. I think 6th is too high, but I would put us around 10-12. Our team is so fun to watch because they love playing ball together. They have such great chemistry. No one wants to be the superstar, they are happier getting others involved then them scoring themselves. We are playing Billy ball again! We just do the little things that give us wins. Al Horford and Joakim Noah get a defensive board and immediately start the break and 8 times out of 10 they make the right decision and stay under control. Taureen Green is better than Roberson. He shoots better, plays defense and passes to others. We are screwed though if Brewer or Green goes down. Our depth is our biggest concern and we don't have anyone to be consistent in backing up the PG. I see Hodge developing into a good backup, but not yet.</div>

You beat two ESPN ranked teams, but not two teams that I'd consider ranked. I mean, after I just made a post denouncing ESPN's rankings you point out to me that you beat two teams ranked by ESPN? C'mon.

As for beating two Big East and two ACC teams, congratulations on beating Providence and Florida State, two giants of their conferences. Seriously, beating a team from a big conference doesn't mean anything. I'd take George Washington, Gonzaga, Memphis, and even Nevada over most big conference teams, and I wouldn't take Providence over most mid-majors.

Team chemistry and unselfishness can do great things for your team, but there are tons other teams in the NCAA with great team chemistry too; George Washington for example.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Our schedule is a joke though. If we can beat Miami and Georgia on the road, we could easily go 17-0 and with everyone in front of us losing, we could be ranked #1 at some point this season. I'm just hoping that this success isn't going to our heads and we lose a game that we should win.</div>

Agreed. You could be #1 because of the way ESPN hypes up big name schools who don't play anyone. How sickening is that?

 

No, they could be #1 because all the teams are bad this year! Seriously, remember last year? Do you think Duke's team this year would be sniffing #1?

So far, the only team that has REALLY shown anything is UConn. Villanova, I'm sure they're good too although they rely on jump shooting too much, and then you've got some teams like Michigan State, Gonzaga, Washington, Duke, Illinois, Florida who have faced some challenges and won. That's about it, and it's really kind of funny that a team with two losses and no good wins like BC is still in the top 15, but I just don't see that many other teams that have shown much this year.

Maybe it will take time for more names to emerge, but Chris Paul is gone. Felton, May, etc. are gone. Deron is gone. Warrick is gone. Etc., etc.

 

i think you guys vote just so that you can disagree with espn and then rag on them. ohio state at 20 w/ what 4 or 5 wins over noone. You say texas is overrated but you still have them at 6, i think blowing out athe #6 team in the country deserves some credit.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting babybulls:</div><div class="quote_post">i think you guys vote just so that you can disagree with espn and then rag on them. ohio state at 20 w/ what 4 or 5 wins over noone. You say texas is overrated but you still have them at 6, i think blowing out athe #6 team in the country deserves some credit.</div>It's funny you say that, because Ohio State sure did better against Virginia Tech than Duke did, wouldn't you say?

The OSU ranking is a funny one to pick on, since the ESPN poll does have them #25, and since this poll isn't that different. They beat VT well and have that away win against St. Joe's, and they're 6-0 right now. Of course, I can see them losing the tough game at Iowa State on Saturday, but there's nothing strange about putting them over three loss Iowa and Kentucky and so on.

As for Duke, we've talked about it before, even in this thread. There's nothing that weird about putting them #3. It's not saying they're bad, it's saying those other teams might be better. As I wrote about before, Duke is a lucky halfcourt heave away from having a loss at home.

 

I wonder when 8-1 Bucknell might gets some votes or 7-0 Indiana St. get some respect after beating Indiana.