You guys expect to give up 2 lazy players who will never live up to their potential for a future superstar? Hysterical.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys expect to give up 2 lazy players who will never live up to their potential for a future superstar? Hysterical.</div> I don't think anyone expects it to happen, but if that was the asking price of course most Laker fans would want Mitch to pull the trigger.
i doubt it will ever happen and here's a logical and mathmatical reason as to why. in the offseason, kobe, odon, and bynum will still be signed. the nba salary cap is 50 million, if i remember right, and kobe, odom, and bynum's salary will amount to a total of about 35 million. with that said, we only have 15 million left under the cap to sign bosh, AND fill in the rest of our roster spots. incase you didnt know, odom and bryant both are paid about 15 million a year, so bosh would be asking for that much amount of money and maybe even more. not to mention our other twelve roster spots. the 07 plan is bullshit IMO.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting phiLA:</div><div class="quote_post">i doubt it will ever happen and here's a logical and mathmatical reason as to why. in the offseason, kobe, odon, and bynum will still be signed. the nba salary cap is 50 million, if i remember right, and kobe, odom, and bynum's salary will amount to a total of about 35 million. with that said, we only have 15 million left under the cap to sign bosh, AND fill in the rest of our roster spots. incase you didnt know, odom and bryant both are paid about 15 million a year, so bosh would be asking for that much amount of money and maybe even more. not to mention our other twelve roster spots. the 07 plan is bullshit IMO.</div> Odom doesn't even max out at $15M. Here's his salary for the rest of his contract: 2005-06 - $11.5M 2006-07 - $12.5M 2007-08 - $13.5M 2008-09 - $14.5M Bynum will be making a max of $2.8M heading into the final year of his rookie deal, which is in 2008/09, conveniently when Odom's contract expires. Jerry Buss has no problem paying the luxury tax to put a winner on the floor. They definitely have enough to afford Bosh and fill out the rest of their roster.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys expect to give up 2 lazy players who will never live up to their potential for a future superstar? Hysterical.</div> Shaq came to LA for nothing. Anyone remember that? No one? Impossible is nothing in LA. Orlando could not hold on to him. This Bosh trade could happen. We just have to wait and see.
Chris Bosh would be great if we kept Odom and Kobe. Odom needs to play small forward. That iz most advantageous for his skillz big homie.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting trenchteam:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq came to LA for nothing. Anyone remember that? No one? Impossible is nothing in LA. Orlando could not hold on to him. This Bosh trade could happen. We just have to wait and see.</div> If I remember correctly, Shaq was an unrestricted FA. Bosh will be restricted and if he infact does want a trade, he won't be traded for 2 bums. Rob Babcock isn't as dumb as Mitch and won't trade Bosh for nothing. Stop kidding yourself.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If I remember correctly, Shaq was an unrestricted FA. Bosh will be restricted and if he infact does want a trade, he won't be traded for 2 bums. Rob Babcock isn't as dumb as Mitch and won't trade Bosh for nothing. Stop kidding yourself</div> While I can agree that Mitch has made a fair share of incredibly stupid mistakes....I think the teams records are a fair indication of who's the better GM. That's not to mention the last few years. You guys traded Vince for....oh yeah- Alonzo Mourning...and he averaged...wait no he didn't, he never played for you guys...and you payed him how much....oh yeah...a buy out of $17 million....which took up how much of ur salary cap....oh yeah- great move on Babocks part. Yeah- This could easily happen. Besides, Mitch know's he owe's Buss and the entire organization/fanbase a great trade after he messed up the last one.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">While I can agree that Mitch has made a fair share of incredibly stupid mistakes....I think the teams records are a fair indication of who's the better GM. That's not to mention the last few years.</div> If you would like to explain how Mitch is any better than Babcock, I'd like to hear it. Granted, neither of them arn't that great, but it's stupid how people say he is the worst GM in the league because he really only made 2 bad choices. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys traded Vince for....oh yeah- Alonzo Mourning...and he averaged...wait no he didn't, he never played for you guys...and you payed him how much....oh yeah...a buy out of $17 million....which took up how much of ur salary cap....oh yeah- great move on Babocks part.</div> Haha, everyone mentioning the Carter trade is just old now. What could Toronto get for a guy averaging 15/3/3 and playing with a noticable lack of effort, no energy and no defense? The 2 first round picks were the key. If your going to bring up the Carter trade, the O'Neal trade was just as worse. At least Shaq was still dominant. It was pretty much Lamar Odom, Kwame Brown, Laron Profit and a first round pick for Shaq. Not too good I would say. Oh yeah, great move on Mitch's part. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah- This could easily happen. Besides, Mitch know's he owe's Buss and the entire organization/fanbase a great trade after he messed up the last one.</div> Think to yourself what LA could actually give to Toronto. If you were the GM, who would you trade for Bosh?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ilive4ball:</div><div class="quote_post">While I can agree that Mitch has made a fair share of incredibly stupid mistakes....I think the teams records are a fair indication of who's the better GM. That's not to mention the last few years. You guys traded Vince for....oh yeah- Alonzo Mourning...and he averaged...wait no he didn't, he never played for you guys...and you payed him how much....oh yeah...a buy out of $17 million....which took up how much of ur salary cap....oh yeah- great move on Babocks part. Yeah- This could easily happen. Besides, Mitch know's he owe's Buss and the entire organization/fanbase a great trade after he messed up the last one.</div> Carter's value was really down at that point due to his constant injuries and his lack of effort however--observing that trade--we gained 2 first round picks (one which we aldready selected Graham with) and im loving this pick..because IMO graham is the next artest and mourning--the trade would not have balanced if they did not add him into the deal
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting trenchteam:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq came to LA for nothing. Anyone remember that? No one? Impossible is nothing in LA. Orlando could not hold on to him. This Bosh trade could happen. We just have to wait and see.</div> A whole lot has changed since shaq came to LA and him leaving Orlando was the cause of most of this. Shaq left Orlando after his rookie contract but back then there were no restricted free agents and the salary cap was a lot more loose back then if it even existed. Since shaq left, rookies are restricted free agents on their first attempt in free agency so that a player of Shaq's caliber can't leave your franchise for nothing. Max Salaries were invented(the reason his salary is so high is because he signed his before they were invented so he and KG can sign for more money than anyone else) The salary cap is also more strict so that big time free agents can't just go anywhere. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ilive4ball:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys traded Vince for....oh yeah- Alonzo Mourning...and he averaged...wait no he didn't, he never played for you guys...and you payed him how much....oh yeah...a buy out of $17 million....which took up how much of ur salary cap....oh yeah- great move on Babocks part.</div> That buyout didn't affect the salary cap any more than it would have if they didn't buy him out. They did however save money because I believe they bought him out for less than his contract was worth, which is usually the point of a buyout. As far as the 2007 plan goes, the 6 players you do have signed are making 42 million, so I don't know if the lakers will have the money to sign bosh. Plus Bosh would be a restricted free agent meaning he wouldn't go to the lakers w/o compensation... however a 2008 plan could work if the lakers do not make any big splashes until then. Assuming Bosh signs a 1-year tenure offer with the raptors(such as vlad did w/ seattle) for 2006/2007, a big if, he could then sign with the lakers as an unrestricted free agent leaving the raptors with no compensation
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">NEW YORK, Dec. 15, 2005 ? The Los Angeles Lakers have been fined $25,000 for public comments made by head coach Phil Jackson on December 8, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Senior Vice President Basketball Operations. Jackson publicly expressed the Lakers? interest in Toronto Raptors forward Chris Bosh, in violation of the NBA?s anti-tampering rule. </div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post"></div> I have to admit they deserved this fine. Tampering rules are very clear, and obviously PJax's comments fell into that category.
lol whats gayer is the fact that the Ron Artest trade-to-be doesn't look promising any more. Everyone agrees the Lakers would be unstoppable with Artest but that Lakers have no peices to trade for him. I personally disagree. With a combonation of a certain #10 pick, an expiring contract, and a battle tested veteran role player I think we can get him still....
