<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Houston: "In all fairness, I don't even want to be remembered for playing there. It was a bad situation for me. I didn't realize what I was stepping into. I thought Dream [Hakeem Olajuwon] was better than he was. I didn't realize he was dead. I'd just come off my second back surgery. My game was limited, but no one knew it. I had a dead foot. It's still dead today. When I went to camp we were thinking the nerve would regenerate. Playing in Houston was such a step back from what I was accustomed to, the way things were run, how disorganized practice was, guys late all the time. It's the little things that destroy a team. Things were too casual for me. I needed to get to L.A. and Phil [Jackson]."</div> Source
Pippen is overrated anyways. Matt Bullard said from 610sports radio, that Pippen have his own trainer traveling with him and he don't corporate with the rest of the team and all he did is keep complaining about the Rocket's system. No wonder why Charles is not taking his crap when he was with the team
Just ignore Scottie Quitten Read this instead <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><font color=""Red""><font size=""4"">"Thanks for nothing, Scottie"</font></font> <font size=""1"">FRIDAY, OCTOBER 1, 1999 12:00 AM CT By Clutch Copyright 1999 CF</font> Scottie didn't always think this low of Charles Barkley. In fact he probably didn't think too low of Chuck until he realized that talks with the Lakers weren't going as well as he hoped At the time this article is being written, Scottie Pippen is technically still a Houston Rocket. However, the sooner he has absolutely nothing to do with this organization, the better. Being a diehard Rocket fan, or even a casual fan, you've heard it all the past 24 hours. "This is Scottie's fault"... "Scottie is a quitter!"... "Pippen is a selfish loser!"... "Get rid of him!" All justified. Every bit of it. To think Barkley did so much for Pippen, defending him at every turn and taking one measly (by NBA standards) million so the Rockets could fit Scottie, and then to have it all slapped back in his face just makes you realize the kind of character that makes up a Scottie Pippen. Scottie Quitten is more like it. Barkley was and is the easy target. Pippen and his agent Mr. Sexton no doubt created this spin doctoring ploy to truly push Scottie out of Clutch City. But what is truly eye-opening and reveals the type of person Scottie Pippen really is is to look back at comments and promises he made throughout the season. Most of the ones here were said on March 25 of this year in an interview with Cheryl Miller, but there are many more. Before we run by the past however, lets run over one more time Scottie's recent comments about Charles: "I wouldn't give Charles Barkley an apology at gunpoint. He can never expect an apology from me. ... If anything, he owes me an apology for coming to play with his fat butt. He's a very selfish guy. He doesn't show the desire to want to win. That's my reason for wanting to get away from playing with him anymore because he just doesn't show the dedication. I probably should've listened to Michael (Jordan) a year ago when he said that Charles will never win a championship because he doesn't show any dedication. I was very shocked to see what type of player he was by spending half a season with him. I'm a guy that's dedicated to winning, and I put out a lot of effort on the court. I expect that from my teammates, especially from a guy of his caliber. You know he's not willing to go the distance. There's no reason for me to put my last three or four years at risk of never winning. Charles is definitely one of the guys that needs to show more leadership for this ballclub to be successful, and he don't show that to me. ... He feels that if he gets 10 rebounds and double-figure points, he's done a good job. But that's not what the game's about. It's about defending, being professional and coming to work every day." And now... what Scottie said before he wanted to be traded: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm very happy to be here. <font color=""Red"">I realize what this franchise means. I want to bring a championship to the city of Houston.</font> There's been a lot of hard work over the last few hours to try and get this deal done. I just hope we put as much hard work on the floor this season. I'm just looking forward to the season. <font color=""Red"">The fans here have been very supportive of me being in Houston.</font> I want to thank you guys for sticking around and waiting." - Scottie Pippen at the Rocket press conference upon signing his ridiculous contract Cheryl Miller: Scottie, has it been hard working in with the new team at all? Scottie Pippen: No, it hasn't. I think these guys make my transition coming in really easy. <font color=""Red"">They welcomed me</font> and the opportunity to come in and sort of step in where Clyde (Drexler) was a year ago has been an easy transition for me. I've enjoyed the opportunity of coming and training with Charles and Hakeem and playing for Rudy (Tomjanovich), and it's a <font color=""Red"">great opportunity for me to play with a great center and also a great power forward ? two future Hall of Famers. </font> Miller: So you're telling me that Charles actually made your transition easy? Pippen: Yes, pretty easy. Very easy. (laughter) Miller: In '93, you two (Scottie and Charles) went toe-to-toe in the Finals. Six years later playing on the same team, did you think that would ever happen? Pippen: <font color=""Red"">I was hoping some day I'd have the opportunity to play with Charles. I think he's a guy that comes out, he plays hard, he's a gamer.</font> I had the opportunity to play with him in two Olympics and at All-Star Games so <font color=""Red"">I know the total package he brings to the game.</font> Miller: What are some of the things people don't know about Charles? Pippen: <font color=""Red"">I think people just don't know the mentality of how hard he really works and the package he brings to the game. You know he's never been voted to the All-Defensive Team, but it may be to the point where people just don't understand what type of defense he plays. I think he is a great team defensive player, maybe just not a one-on-one individual defender. I think he brings a lot to the team from a team defensive standpoint ? being able to go and help out and block shots.</font> Miller: Scottie you have six rings. Hakeem, you have two. Is this season the "Win one for Charles" year? Pippen: I feel like it. <font color=""Red"">I think having Charles really campaign to get me here shows me that he wants to win a championship.</font> I'm one of those players that when June comes, I want to be still playing and <font color=""Red"">Charles deserves to have a championship.</font> He has had a great career, and he's one of the top players in a lot of categories in the game. He deserves to have a championship, and <font color=""Red"">I'd love to have the opportunity to say I helped him win it.</font> Miller: Scottie, you've won six championships, is it important to you to win one without Michael? Pippen: It's important from a personal standpoint, but I think <font color=""Red"">this organization has invested a lot in me to come here and put this team back at a championship level. I want to feel like it's my responsibility to get them there, and I'm going to do whatever I can to make sure this team gets to a championship level. </font> Thanks for nothing, Scottie. CF </div>
You know, I'm going to get hated on for this, but I do believe Rudy T was overrated as a coach...Being a Rockets loyalist for the past 10 years and having worked with the organization, he ran a loose ship and had very little organization or discipline...he tried way too hard to please his players...Scottie was harsh in his comments, but, yes, he was accurate...I think he blames the way the team was run and/or handled opposed to his teammates more than anything...
To start off I do agree that Rudy was someone overrated as a coach...but I think every coach is overrated in one way or another..........as far as Pippen goes, imo he's one of the most overrated players in NBA history......not saying that he sucked or anything, but the dude was never just one of the games greatest, as many people made him out to be.
First off, no coach can be overrated if he has 2 championship rings. More interesting, we won 2 rings with a team of underdogs. Outside of Hakeem, we had very good role players but no superstars. So Rudy can't be overrated as a coach if you wanna go by the facts. Secondly, Pippen has no right to disrespect Hakeem like that. Hakeem is argubley the best player EVER at his position. Pippen, while very talented, went only as far as Jordan took him. So for Scottie to call Dream "dead", and claim "he wasn't as good as I thought", my question is who are you to even say that?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post"> Outside of Hakeem, we had very good role players but no superstars. So Rudy can't be overrated as a coach if you wanna go by the facts. </div> Well, the rockets did also have Clyde Drexler who became a Hall of Famer, but yeah I lost alot of respect for Pippen with the statements he made.
I never liked pippen...and yes he is definitely one of the most overrated players in NBA history. Thanks to Jordan, Pippen has gotten the attention he has...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting devin:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, the rockets did also have Clyde Drexler who became a Hall of Famer, but yeah I lost alot of respect for Pippen with the statements he made.</div>Only for one year. And even when they had Drexler they started off as the 6th seed. And they did it with an even weaker team then the 94 team. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting monty001:</div><div class="quote_post">I never liked pippen...and yes he is definitely one of the most overrated players in NBA history. Thanks to Jordan, Pippen has gotten the attention he has...</div> I never liked Pippen either because of the Rockets thing. But I still think he was a great player. Pippen did it on both sides of the court playing great offense and defense. But without Jordan, Pippen would another ringless Hall of Famer like Charles Barkley.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">But without Jordan, Pippen would another ringless Hall of Famer like Charles Barkley.</div> I've read this tons of times (no not the Barkley part). The little comeback will always be that Jordan never won a ring without Pippen. And its true. Back in his day, he was an incredible defender that could basically shut anyone done as well as dropping around twenty points on them. Think of a better all around game Artest without the craziness. I mean, Pippen's name is scattered through the all time lists with steals, assists, rebounds, and three pointers. You can make a strong case for him by saying he revolutionized the small forward position. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">First off, no coach can be overrated if he has 2 championship rings. More interesting, we won 2 rings with a team of underdogs. Outside of Hakeem, we had very good role players but no superstars. So Rudy can't be overrated as a coach if you wanna go by the facts.</div> I'm the type of person that can say Phil Jackson is overrated here, so I'm sort of going out on a limb. But if a coach has amazing players for two plus years, wouldn't he be overrated if he coached them to two championships? So coaches actually can be overrated if they coached a team to two championships. In fact, I'll even go further to say that Rudy is overrated because of those two championships. What has he done with the Rockets years later with Francis and Mobley? It was basically just letting the players do there thing, there really wasn't too much system.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">I've read this tons of times (no not the Barkley part). The little comeback will always be that Jordan never won a ring without Pippen. And its true.</div> I guess they were just meant to be. If you think about it, nobody has ever really done it alone. 2005 - Duncan, Manu, Parker 2004 - Detroit's Starting 5 2003 - Duncan 2002 - Shaq and Kobe 2001 - Shaq and Kobe 2000 - Shaq and Kobe 1999 - Duncan and Robinson 1998 - Jordan and Pippen 1997 - Jordan and Pippen 1996 - Jordan and Pippen 1995 - Hakeem and Drexler 1994 - Hakeem 1993 - Jordan and Pippen 1992 - Jordan and Pippen 1991 - Jordan and Pippen 1990 - Thomas and Dumars 1989 - Thomas and Dumars 1988 - Magic, Worthy, Kareem 1987 - Magic, Worthy, Kareem 1986 - Bird and McHale Nobody in the past 20 years has really won a Championship on their own besides Hakeem and Duncan.(Parker and Manu weren't as good as they are now) So there you have it. Hakeem and Duncan are the best players to ever lead a team. Lol, I don't know. It all depends on how you see it.
Wow, I never knew Pippen said such things. Then again, this was back when the Rockets were on the down-low and Sam Mack was my favorite player on NBA Live '98..Wow.
Pippen played 1 (strike shortened season with the Rockets). If anybody remembers we made it to the playoffs and played the Lakers. Pippen cost us one of the first games in LA when he fell and lost the ball. We had an old team...I'm Glad to forget that year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">First off, no coach can be overrated if he has 2 championship rings. More interesting, we won 2 rings with a team of underdogs. Outside of Hakeem, we had very good role players but no superstars. So Rudy can't be overrated as a coach if you wanna go by the facts. Secondly, Pippen has no right to disrespect Hakeem like that. Hakeem is argubley the best player EVER at his position. Pippen, while very talented, went only as far as Jordan took him. So for Scottie to call Dream "dead", and claim "he wasn't as good as I thought", my question is who are you to even say that?</div> Right on target, very good comment. You see, this is what you call a hyp-o-crite. He also has a very ugly nose. I believe anyone that plays alongside MJ is overrated (including Phil Jackson in this one). Simply because they get noticed and praised for every simple thing they do, and then let MJ do his job. Edit: kind of like the Rockets now if you want to see T-Mac as MJ and Yao as Pippen
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> He also has a very ugly nose. I believe anyone that plays alongside MJ is overrated (including Phil Jackson in this one). Simply because they get noticed and praised for every simple thing they do, and then let MJ do his job.</div> Yeah, but when Jordan wasn't there, in his prime Pippen still did some amazing things on the Bulls. In the season without Jordan, Pippen put up an all around nice stat sheet with 22 points, 8.70 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.93 steals, and .491 percent shooting. You call that overrated? Without Jordan he still shined and brought the Bulls dangerously close to the Conference Finals. Pippen's numbers without Jordan are actually strikingly similar to McGrady's last season in about two minutes less. In two minutes less amount of time, Pippen was about three points off from McGrady's scoring average, had a little more than two rebounds, better shooting, and around the same in assists. Oh, and he averaged a whole two steals more.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, but when Jordan wasn't there, in his prime Pippen still did some amazing things on the Bulls. In the season without Jordan, Pippen put up an all around nice stat sheet with 22 points, 8.70 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.93 steals, and .491 percent shooting. You call that overrated? Without Jordan he still shined and brought the Bulls dangerously close to the Conference Finals. Pippen's numbers without Jordan are actually strikingly similar to McGrady's last season in about two minutes less. In two minutes less amount of time, Pippen was about three points off from McGrady's scoring average, had a little more than two rebounds, better shooting, and around the same in assists. Oh, and he averaged a whole two steals more.</div> Not to mention Pippen finished third in MVP voting that year. In fact, he's been in MJ's shadow so long that I would call him underrated. However, the way he carried himself while with the Rockets deserves hatred from every Rockets fan. The way the team and Barkley sacrificed itself just to accomodate Pippen was definitely not what Pippen brought to the team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, but when Jordan wasn't there, in his prime Pippen still did some amazing things on the Bulls. In the season without Jordan, Pippen put up an all around nice stat sheet with 22 points, 8.70 rebounds, 5.6 assists, 2.93 steals, and .491 percent shooting. You call that overrated? Without Jordan he still shined and brought the Bulls dangerously close to the Conference Finals. Pippen's numbers without Jordan are actually strikingly similar to McGrady's last season in about two minutes less. In two minutes less amount of time, Pippen was about three points off from McGrady's scoring average, had a little more than two rebounds, better shooting, and around the same in assists. Oh, and he averaged a whole two steals more.</div> Lets not forget, that was 1 season without Jordan. For some reason you guys fail to mention his stats from Portland. I don't think we're sayin that Pippen wasn't a good player, but I don't think he'd be in the top 50 or a hall of famer without the Greatest player ever beside him. With that said, he has disrediting Hakeem's talent.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rock4life:</div><div class="quote_post">Lets not forget, that was 1 season without Jordan. For some reason you guys fail to mention his stats from Portland. I don't think we're sayin that Pippen wasn't a good player, but I don't think he'd be in the top 50 or a hall of famer without the Greatest player ever beside him. With that said, he has disrediting Hakeem's talent.</div> He was playing more of a veteran role in Portland, with scorers like Rasheed Wallace, Damon Stoudamire, Steve Smith and Arvydas Sabonis around him. Is Barkley's numbers with the Rockets a fair indication of his ability and his career? Or Hakeem's numbers from his later years?
