http://www.nba.com/games/20051209/DALMEM/boxscore.html Big lines for the night DeSagana Diop: 6 blocks, 7 rebounds in 19 minutes Devin Harris: 8 assists Dirk Nowitzki: 35 points
The game was won on a bogus foul. Memphis was down by three points with about sixteen seconds left when Eddie Jones took a three pointer that barely hit the rim. No whistle was blown on the play, and after the Grizzlies started to foul out of desperation, the Mavericks sealed the victory. On further review of the tape though, Eddie Jones was clearly hacked on the three pointer. He should have gone to the line for three shots, which would have tied the game with sixteen seconds left if he had converted all three. It's pathetic that the reffs can control a game this much, because the Grizzlies and Mavericks are both competing for that #2 (maybe even #1) spot in the Southwest Division, and the race is incredibly close. It's just our luck that the top three teams in the West this season are all in the same division.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">Oh well, you win some you lose some</div> Sure you do but Memphis win's some, then loses a lot, then wins some, plays dallas and gets there backsides handed to them, then bitches and moans about not being better than us. And Bobby Jackson likes to call Dirk soft, but wasnt he the one who left the game early with a hammy? Play a full season of basketball then you can talk little man.
Yep, bloody middle schoolers Sofest player in the industry..pffft mate, come back when you aren't Mr Inconsistency and plays every other game
Yet another great win for the mavs on the road against a good team without Terry and Howard. I'm really impressed with Avery in getting the players ready to play. Didn't watch the game, but I heard the crowd was booing Dirk for this comments on Gasol the previous game, but Dirk had the last laugh and Gasol stunk it up big time in this game making key turnovers as the Grizz were making the comeback.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">Sure you do but Memphis win's some, then loses a lot, then wins some, plays dallas and gets there backsides handed to them, then bitches and moans about not being better than us. And Bobby Jackson likes to call Dirk soft, but wasnt he the one who left the game early with a hammy? Play a full season of basketball then you can talk little man.</div> Where was all this smack talk when the Grizzlies beat you by 20 points on your home court? I think it's obvious the Grizzlies are the better team. We smack you guys silly in Dallas, and then you come and barely win one in our gym off a b.s. call. The season series is tied 1-1, and we've got the more impressive win. Where do you get off calling out Bobby Jackson for being hurt? What do you want him to do? Play while he's injured? There's a difference between playing hard and playing hurt. There aren't too many players in the league who play as hard as Jackson, and in a way, the injuries kind of show that. He puts his body on the line night in and night out. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Didn't watch the game, but I heard the crowd was booing Dirk for this comments on Gasol the previous game, but Dirk had the last laugh and Gasol stunk it up big time in this game making key turnovers as the Grizz were making the comeback.</div> The crowd had every right to boo Dirk. It was a classless move to take a shot at Gasol, especially after he owned Dirk so badly in that game, and I don't care what Dirk did last night, because he can't match that 36 point, 15 rebound, and 5 assists performance that Gasol had last time he was in Dallas. Also, I really don't think Gasol stunck it up that badly last night. His shot wasn't falling, and believe me, that wasn't a result of Dirk's NBA First Team defense; he was just having an off night from the field. However, Gasol is one of the best passing big men in the game and really knows how to use that to his advantage when his shot isn't on. Just look in the assist column; Gasol finished with six to Dirk's one. Dirk's just mad because he's a horrible team captain and it showed in the Olympics where his German national team stunk it up while Gasol's Spanish national team finished 6-1 with their only loss being a close game against Team USA.
LOL MEMPHIS No matter how you won that one game in Dallas, the Mavs are the better team. Pau the MOUNTAIN MAN was Mr. Softy (his usual self) Based upon the past the Mavericks are the better team. Based upon the present the Mavericks are the better team. Based upon the past the Mavericks and Grizz will exit the first and second round. Guess we should not care who won this game huh? Crown the Spurs! <font color="red">Please don't double post. Use the "Edit" button. - Voodoo Child</font>
Based upon the past the Mavericks are the better team. Based upon the present the Mavericks are the better team. Based upon the past the Mavericks and Grizz will exit the first and second round. Guess we should not care who won this game huh? Crown the Spurs!
I watched the replay a couple of times, there was no foul on Eddie Jones so quit whining. And yeah, you beat the Mavs in Dallas after they came from a hectic schedule.. especially that back to back against Miami. Oh and the Mavs just took you out without the services of Stack, Terry and Howard. No disrespect to Memphis but they need to do a lot to prove themselves as one of the elite teams in the West this year. They have never made it past the first round.. so that would be the first step for them.
Sorry, but your now comparing Germany to Spain? Everyone in their right mind would laugh that off, Dirk's national team is horrible, it's amazing how they even win once with that team. Dirk leads them despite them all being scrubs
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pj555:</div><div class="quote_post">I watched the replay a couple of times, there was no foul on Eddie Jones so quit whining. And yeah, you beat the Mavs in Dallas after they came from a hectic schedule.. especially that back to back against Miami. Oh and the Mavs just took you out without the services of Stack, Terry and Howard. No disrespect to Memphis but they need to do a lot to prove themselves as one of the elite teams in the West this year. They have never made it past the first round.. so that would be the first step for them.</div> I'm not whining. I'll accept the fact that the Mavericks tied up the series, but I watched the replay a couple of times too, and there definitely was enough contact to alter the shot. As for the Mavericks' "hectic schedule", the Grizzlies played on Friday too, so you can't really use that as an excuse, and the fact that you guys were playing Miami isn't anything special, because they're just 10-10 this season and have been smacked around by teams like Toronto. As for you argument about missing all of those players in the win, you had both Terry and Howard the first time around, and we were without Mike Miller and Brian Cardinal, yet we still came away with a 20 point win. As for proving ourselves as one of the elite teams, we blew out you guys, we blew out the Lakers, we blew out the Suns on the road, and we beat LeBron's Cavs. We've more than proved ourselves this season. You can look at our 0-8 all-time playoff record and pick on us because of that, but I'm not arguing which franchise has the best history. I'm arguing which team is better right now, and the Grizzlies look like the better team so far.
It just seems to me that the refs always favor the Mavericks. We've seen it time and time again; calls just seem to go Dallas's way. Maybe the league is scared of Mark Cuban stirring again. Or Mark Cuban just bribed the refereeing association. Btw, why are the Grizzlies wearing jerseys saying Pro on them? Is it something to do with the city of Memphis?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post"> and the fact that you guys were playing Miami isn't anything special, because they're just 10-10 this season and have been smacked around by teams like Toronto.</div> It's not just that, we were playing at Miami and we had to fly from there to Memphis which wasn't all that fun <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> As for you argument about missing all of those players in the win, you had both Terry and Howard the first time around, and we were without Mike Miller and Brian Cardinal, yet we still came away with a 20 point win. </div> Wow, Brian Cardinal missing? Oh No!! He's alright, but nothing special...he'd be what? 8th man? He hasn't even played a game this season (according to NBA.com). If your going to mention Cardinal, then I'll mention Stackhouse who is much more important to us, yet we're still doing well this season So your missing Miller (a scorer) + Cardinal (hustle) compared to Jason Terry (second leading scorer, starting PG), Josh Howard (easily best defender on team, 2nd most important..debateable) and Jerry Stackhouse (instant offense, can score when we are down) <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">As for proving ourselves as one of the elite teams, we blew out you guys, we blew out the Lakers, we blew out the Suns on the road, and we beat LeBron's Cavs. We've more than proved ourselves this season. </div> I'm not arguing that, I'm arguing that we are better than you. You beat LeBrons Cavs? By 7 points...but then you lost to them by 19 points a few games later Your only few real impressive victories are Cleveland, Dallas and Phoenix...with Dallas being the best. Whereas we beat Detroit..the reigning champions who were at 8-0 by 37 points..which is 3 more points than your victories (over the three teams I mentioned above) combined We beat Miami by about 12, you lost by about 20 We beat San Antonio by 19, you haven't played There is no doubt that Memphis are doing great this year, but they don't strike me as a great team. They need to do that consistently before I start praising them (although, they have been starting to do that). I feel Dallas is in the top 3 teams this season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">It just seems to me that the refs always favor the Mavericks. We've seen it time and time again; calls just seem to go Dallas's way. Maybe the league is scared of Mark Cuban stirring again. Or Mark Cuban just bribed the refereeing association. Btw, why are the Grizzlies wearing jerseys saying Pro on them? Is it something to do with the city of Memphis?</div> Not neccesarrily (sp?), I remember last year versus San Antonio Horry (or someone) did offensive interference with about 8 seconds left but they didn't call it (he clearly touched the rim on the replay), and San Antonio ended up winning by 3 points. Yao Ming was getting his way in the first games of the playoffs, then they finally called it straight. It seems Dallas gets the advantage, but people only remember the calls that favour them.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">It's not just that, we were playing at Miami and we had to fly from there to Memphis which wasn't all that fun</div> Actually, the game was in Dallas, so the Mavericks were flying home. The Grizzlies flew in as well. It's not like a few hours on a really lavish team plane is a detractor here. The only real advantage for any team in the game was that it was played on Dallas' home court. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Wow, Brian Cardinal missing? Oh No!! He's alright, but nothing special...he'd be what? 8th man? He hasn't even played a game this season (according to NBA.com). If your going to mention Cardinal, then I'll mention Stackhouse who is much more important to us, yet we're still doing well this season</div> I can't believe you're downplaying the Custodian's importance. He's one of the top bench players in the NBA. What Cardinal does for us is extremely important. I'm not going to give him the label of an 8th man, because Memphis is a team that plays with a ten man rotation. Benching on Memphis is just as good as starting on a lot of teams. Having Cardinal on the bench is important for when Gasol is having off nights, like the one he had the other night. When we put Hakim Warrick into the game, Dirk murdered the kid. We could have really used Brian Cardinal. It would have helped Pau Gasol get back into the game more than anything else. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">So your missing Miller (a scorer) + Cardinal (hustle) compared to Jason Terry (second leading scorer, starting PG), Josh Howard (easily best defender on team, 2nd most important..debateable) and Jerry Stackhouse (instant offense, can score when we are down)</div> Actually, when we beat you guys by twenty, you were only missing Stackhouse. Miller's role with the team is far more important than just being a "scorer", although he can really put the points up and is probably one of the top five shooters in the NBA. Miller was the only reason we were even in the game last night. You can't trivialize his importance. He's just as important to the Grizzlies as Terry is to the Mavericks, if not more. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not arguing that, I'm arguing that we are better than you. </div> You're taking my comments out of context. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You beat LeBrons Cavs? By 7 points...but then you lost to them by 19 points a few games later</div> Kind of like what the Grizzlies did to the Mavericks, right? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Your only few real impressive victories are Cleveland, Dallas and Phoenix...with Dallas being the best. Whereas we beat Detroit..the reigning champions who were at 8-0 by 37 points..which is 3 more points than your victories (over the three teams I mentioned above) combined We beat Miami by about 12, you lost by about 20 We beat San Antonio by 19, you haven't played</div> You're counting the Miami game? Why? The Grizzlies played them when they had Shaq. When they have Shaq, they're the #1 team in the NBA. The Mavericks played the Shaq-less Heat, a team with about a 9-10 record. Great victory. And even while the Grizzlies might have lost big in that game, it was tied in the third quarter; the Grizzlies just collapsed in the end. The final score really does no justice to the type of game that was played. The Grizzlies haven't played San Antonio or Detroit, but the Mavericks haven't played Cleveland, a team who are very much on San Antonio and Detroit's level this season, even if they have a few more losses. Phoenix also took them to two overtimes, whereas Memphis blew them out. I really don't think the Mavericks had a harder schedule than the Grizzlies at all. The only thing that I'm looking at is the matchups between the two teams, and the series is split with the more impressive win going to Memphis. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Btw, why are the Grizzlies wearing jerseys saying Pro on them? Is it something to do with the city of Memphis?</div> There was an ABA team in Memphis called the Pro's. I think George Karl even played for them. I don't understand why the Grizzlies would wear the jerseys though. Aside from playing in the same city, the two franchises are completely unrelated.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm arguing which team is better right now, and the Grizzlies look like the better team so far.</div> Wow..You better pray the Grizz don't get to meet the Mavs in the first round playoffs this year. It'll be another 4-0 exit for your team.
