Source: www.realgm.com <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Nets are trying to pry Stromile Swift from Houston. They are concerned about Jason Collins and now have Marc Jackson wondering whether he'd be better off somewhere else after he was benched last night</div> hm who do you guys think you'll have to give up for swift?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">Source: www.realgm.com hm who do you guys think you'll have to give up for swift?</div> Im sure they will be willing to give Jackson and Houtson take him. Swift for Jackson straight up.
nope.... it said that houston wasn't interestted in jackson and first round pick for swift.... swift is starting to find a role in here.... i don't think carrol dawson is that stupid and trade swift for jackson and first round pick...
If I was Dawson, I would do that trade in a second. Swift is lazy and unmotivated, and to get a first round pick would be great.
Jackson and a pick for Swift is not enough by any means...Right now, I'm very reluctant to give up Swift because he's starting to get things more and more with each passing day...I think he's playing at only 60% of what he could become for the Rockets...
Marc Jackson and a pick, most definitely. I've seen Jackson as a Sixer and he definitely has it in him. Jackson can play down low with garbage points, go outside for a midrange shot, and rebound the ball decently. Though he's obviously not the best rebounder, he's still an upgrade over Swift. The pick just makes this trade even better.
I would make this trade if I'm Houston, and then pursue Chris Wilcox, Reggie Evans, or Melvin Ely next summer. There's a lot of quality role players in next year's draft and the Rockets will need cheap young talent to succeed.
i doubt it that rockets will trade away swift for just jackson and a pick i just dont see that happening and T-Mac wont let that trade happen he promised Swift that he will turn him into a star
I really hope the Nets try to pursue Swift. Maybe adding Murray or Planinic to the trade along with Jackson and the 1st round pick from the Clippers can help.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I really hope the Nets try to pursue Swift. Maybe adding Murray or Planinic to the trade along with Jackson and the 1st round pick from the Clippers can help.</div> Wow. All that for Swift is one of the most lopsided trades I've heard. If I was Carroll Dawson, I'd that do trade right away.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PlaTsanity:</div><div class="quote_post">i doubt it that rockets will trade away swift for just jackson and a pick i just dont see that happening and T-Mac wont let that trade happen he promised Swift that he will turn him into a star</div> T-Mac can't turn him into a star. Only Stromile can turn himself into a star, but unfortunetly he probably ever won't. Swift can put up big numbers when he wants and can also turn it off when he wants. The only thing he's got going for him is people are still giving him the 'potential' label.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Only Stromile can turn himself into a star</div> J.kidd could turn him into a star
In the past, I would have agreed, but just watching Kidd this year he doesn't seem to be the same player he was. He has gone away from what he tended to do the past few years, and that is understandable because he is getting older. As far as the Nets getting Swift, I don't see the Rockets doing a deal unless one of the big three is included.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In the past, I would have agreed, but just watching Kidd this year he doesn't seem to be the same player he was. He has gone away from what he tended to do the past few years, and that is understandable because he is getting older.</div> Don't speak too soon. Kidd and the big 3 are starting to get going. He has 13 assists today... in the first half. 16 against Denver. Losing to Charlotte was a wake-up call. I would do the Jackson + a pick trade for swift, but whoever said that one of the big 3 would have to be included is smoking crack. Swift is not that great. I think he would fit in better in NJ, but a pick +Jackson is probably still more than he's worth.
Why wouldn't Houston want one of the big three? I certainly don't see them trading Swift away for just Jackson and a pick. The Rockets are doing very well since McGrady has come back, and Swift has been solid for them providing energy off the bench. Jackson doesn't fit the Rockets better than Swift does. I was looking at it from Houston's perspective... Houston doing a Swift for Jackson + pick deal doesn't make sense to me.
You honestly think that Swift is worth one of the big 3? Salary issues aside, Swift isn't even close to the value of RJ, VC or Kidd.
I'm not saying he is worth one of them, but looking at it from Houston's point of view I don't see why they would just give him up for Jackson and a pick. They were searching for an athletic power forward to put next to Yao, and they got that in Stro even though he doesn't start. I like Jackson after watching him last year with the Sixers, but he isn't exactly what the Rockets need. He is not athletic at all, and pretty much all he is good for is his jumper, and that can be suspect at times. Whatever they'd get from him they are getting with Juwan Howard, and Jackson is useless on the boards against tougher teams. He got slapped around like a little kid last year against Detroit in the playoffs. Once again, I'm not saying Swift is worth one of the big three, but looking at it from Houston's view (or what I think they're view would be), I don't think they'd trade Swift for Jackson (essentially). Maybe if Krstic was added in there as another big body, but if the Nets do that then it is pointless to add Swift.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting virve119:</div><div class="quote_post">You honestly think that Swift is worth one of the big 3? Salary issues aside, Swift isn't even close to the value of RJ, VC or Kidd.</div> Agreed and before we make any move we should wait a few games, because the Nets are playing better for now. I think we should wait a couple of more games before deciding on making a trade.
