After their matchup yesterday, I thought of this thread. One time ages ago I had a huge debate saying why Dirk is better than KG, but whats your opinion. I think they are equal as players, but Dirk can lead his team places. Thats a brief sum-up, but what does everyone else think.
Dirk is better than KG. Dirk intimidates other players and noone can guard him. Dirk is improving greatly at his defensive skills yet KG is still better at defense. I still think Dirk is better than KG and is younger, hopefully he will work on his defensive game to become a all around player which would make him the best player in the league.
dirk has alot of good players around him, while kg has nothin but wally, if u replace kg with dirk, and dirk with kg, dirk would have less stats, while kg has more
I would say no. KG is the better player simply because he is more versatile and has more abilities then Dirk does. In my opinion Dirk is pretty one demensional, he is seven feet tall and he shoots fade a way mid range jumpers a lot. KG also plays similar on offense, but he is more complete when it comes to defense, rebounding, and playmaking ability. Not to mention the fact that Dirk was kind of quiet in the playoffs at one point, the best players are supposed to step it up during the playoffs.
Dirk ability to demand the ball and take and make big shots when called upon is the only aspect I give Dirk over KG. I?ve seen Dirk on plenty occasions scream for the ball and single handily take over a game while Garnett is too unselfish to ever do something like that. But that side, Garnett is better than Dirk in almost every other aspect of the game if you ask me. They are in ways very much alike but Garnett?s passion, defense and leadership is what ultimately sets him apart from Dirk. Dirk has a better resume as far as team success goes but that?s only because he?s had a much better team that KG has ever had, but like someone mentioned in this thread, if you give KG the supporting cast Dirk has I personally think KG would have taken/take them further than Dirk has or may ever will.
Dirk can hit the big shot, but you can go to KG downlow throughout the game. KG provides much better defense and he's doing it with a worse supporting cast.
I've always thought Dirk, but I'm not sure anymore, I didn't like Dirk yelling at Terry last year in the playoffs and calling out Dampier. It's nice to see that he's taking a leadership role, but I prefer players like Duncan when leading teams or Payton who just trash talks the other team not his own teammates. KG is still one of the best players, if not the best. Dirk and KG are pretty even, but if a draft was held today, I would select Dirk. Dirk can do everything and so can KG, but Dirk had pretty cool hair.
dirk isn't better than KG by a long shot. KG's rebounding skills and passing ability are way above dirk's. Dirk, while become a little better on defense, still can't defend a pick and roll properly. Not to mention, dirk can't jus stick with his cool hair and always cuts it randomly, which obviously kills his mojo. Haven't you noticed how he goes through a slump after a hair cut? The man needs to stop that.
KG is a well rounded player but he has no goto offensive move that is unstoppable. With Dirk you can give him the ball and he can create something depending on the matchup. I rather take the great offensive player and pretty good in other areas than the well rounded player.
The difference between Dirk and KG is KG makes his teammates better and Dirk's teammates make him better. Dirk doesn't command a double team every night KG does. My take on this and has always been is KG is a more complete player than Dirk, has been on more All NBA First teams and the Mavs team would be much better if KG was in place of Dirk. KG is a sure shot hall of famer, but its a questionable call for Dirk.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dallasdude:</div><div class="quote_post">The difference between Dirk and KG is KG makes his teammates better and Dirk's teammates make him better. Dirk doesn't command a double team every night KG does. My take on this and has always been is KG is a more complete player than Dirk, has been on more All NBA First teams and the Mavs team would be much better if KG was in place of Dirk. KG is a sure shot hall of famer, but its a questionable call for Dirk.</div> The offense runs alot through Dirk and not so much through KG. Dirk will struggle now and than but with him the mavs are a very good offensive team. KG gets alot of his points off rebounds. With KG you probably want another player who can score alot because he isn't the goto guy as much as Dirk.
Ask any GM who they'd rather have on their team...........I'll guarantee you all of them would say KG.........Dirk is a great player, but KG is on another level and is one of the top 5 players in the game today....like an earlier poster mentioned, Dirk is one dimensional for the most part......last year in the first round the Rockets just did a good job of staying in front of him and forced him to take a lot of tough shots.........Dirk is great when his jump shot is on, but when it isn't going in, he's really not that effective on the court.
The way I look at Kevin Garnett, is that he's a great player who tries to do a little to much. By creating 5 assists a game, he is essentially dominating the ball and not giving team-mates freedom to roam around. He has lead his team past the 1st round ONCE in 8 years, and it was a lot of Sam Cassell who is showing his worth in Los Angeles (taking a perennial under-achieving team to the next level..like in Minnesota). Dirk has consistently lead his team further in the playoffs, but you may say "Thats coz Dirk has a better supporting cast" well I say thats because players can adapt around Dirk easier. Sure, you argue about defense? And I'd agree....2-3 years ago. Ever since Dampier came and the new coach Avery Johnson, we've seen a new defense in Dirk that was unheard of and laughed at before. No longer is he letting his many blow past him, but I must say that his last hurdle is help defense -- I can';t count the number of times that Dirk doesn't know when to step in leaving his man open or when to let the opposing player get past. KG is a great defender, but to say Dirk isn't a decent defender is propesterous (Dan Rosenbaum rates Dirk as the 10th best PF defender in the league, a legit ranking..Link) Sure KG is one of the elite players in the league, probably the most talented along with Kobe Bryant but until he shows me he can lead his team like a true leader I wil take Dirk. The defensive discrepancy isnt that big
Dirk is Offense as KG is to defense. Id rather have Dirk because hes younger and more exciting and isnt as injury prone....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting miles:</div><div class="quote_post">Dirk is Offense as KG is to defense. Id rather have Dirk because hes younger and more exciting and isnt as injury prone....</div> More exciting? Ok, well that means nothing. Injury prone? I don't know which Garnett you know, but the KG I know hasn't missed a game in 4 years, and hasn't missed more than 5 games in any season in his career.
Suppose they were to play one on one. I'd deftinteley put my money on KG. Suppose they were to play horse. I'd still put my money on KG. Suppose.. I'd go with KG 9 times out of 10. There are things KG can do that Dirk can't do. KG can do every signgle thing Dirk can do.
Dirk has been on much better teams than Garnett has been on his career, hence making Dirk's game much easier. The only time Garnett had some help was couple of years ago when Cassell and Spree joined(which can be comparable to Dirk having Nash and Finley on the team). It was his MVP season and went to the West Finals. I truly believe if KG had been on the Mavs team in place of Dirk thus far, the Mavs team would've been a whole lot better. The NBA efficiency rating is an excellent way to grade a player. KG has been at the top of the list for the past 6-8 years. While Dirk is good, he has never been in the top 5. Here's the latest ratings for this season. http://www.nba.com/statistics/2005/default...rsEFFQuery.html The only thing Dirk's gonna give for the mavs fans in the post season is throwing more bricks, more whining and more yelling at the teammates. 'nuff said..
Actually, despite last season, Dirk is one of the best playoff performers in the league. He consistently stepped up in previous season (eg when he burned Portland in 2003) and to say he is a whiny choke job is just wrong. ESPN only highlights the "angriness", which is smart as who would want to see Dirk congratulating. Notice how last year when he called Dampier out, Dampier started playing better? Exactly. Sure, he can go a little over the top but it's good to see him providing emotion <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The NBA efficiency rating is an excellent way to grade a player. KG has been at the top of the list for the past 6-8 years. While Dirk is good, he has never been in the top 5. Here's the latest ratings for this season.</div> Actually, Dirk was #3 last season.
