Official Trade Idea Thread (Bulls)

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  1. Midnight Green

    Midnight Green NFLC nflcentral.net Member

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    Well I?m not quite ready to give up on the roster we currently have. however, it is painfully obvious after last nights lost we need to make a tweak or two before the trade deadline if we hope to advance in the playoffs. Their are many serviceable big men who could make life easier for our guards available in the market right now. At the same time we could also do a big trade, and acquire a go to player, which Steve Kerr considers our biggest weakness. If we choose to go that route the most likely candidates we could pursue would be Rashard Lewis, Peja, or even a guy like Paul pierce(long shot to say the least).

    So the point of this thread is really just to get a feel for what Bulls fans on the forum believe should be the Bulls next move this season. If you are thinking about a trade you would like to see go down, but are not sure about the contract numbers, you can check out how your trade would work out on the trade checker. Personally with the youth we have on our roster right now I would prefer to acquire a big man. As opposed to going out and trading key pieces for a all star. Here is a trade scenario I would love to see go down.

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    Chicago Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    <font color=""Black"">Eric Piatkowski
    6-7 SG from Nebraska
    2.4 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 8.8 minutes

    Malik Allen
    6-10 PF from Villanova
    2.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 7.1 minutes</font>
    Incoming

    <font color=""DarkRed"">Nazr Mohammed
    6-10 C from Kentucky
    4.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.6 minutes
    Change in team outlook: +0.1 ppg, +1.5 rpg, and -0.3 apg.</font>


    San Antonio Trade Breakdown
    Outgoing

    <font color=""DarkRed"">Nazr Mohammed
    6-10 C from Kentucky
    4.8 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 0.3 apg in 12.6 minutes</font>
    Incoming

    <font color=""Black"">Eric Piatkowski
    6-7 SG from Nebraska
    2.4 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.6 apg in 8.8 minutes

    Malik Allen
    6-10 PF from Villanova
    2.3 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.0 apg in 7.1 minutes</font>

    Change in team outlook: -0.1 ppg, -1.5 rpg, and +0.3 apg.


    Successful Scenario
    Due to Chicago and San Antonio being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Chicago and San Antonio had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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    This trade would provide the Spurs with a good three point shooting threat who could play either the two or three spot. While at the same time bringing home Chicago native Nazr Mohammed who has struggled in San Antonio, but would likely flourish in a new environment. The Spurs could also get a big man in return in Malik Allen who is a solid player when given playing time. There was rumors of a trade like this taking place earlier in the season, but they seem to have lost some fire, however, with the Bulls recent struggles maybe they might ignite again. We also need to find some where to move Tim Thomas, but due to his huge contract a trade right now would be hard to find.
     
  2. I-Miss-MJ

    I-Miss-MJ JBB I am so SMRT

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    nice idea (the thread)
     
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    That's a good Idea or we can get gugliota, he's a FA he can score down low, and will give us some oards, but i never thought nazr mohammed
     
  4. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">All I want for Christmas is someone who can get a rebound, defend an opponent with size and take pressure off the guards?

    Yes, this is the time for all those corny sports wish lists, but this one could rescue the Bulls from what looks like six months of mediocrity. Granted, this was supposed to be the Bulls' fall-back season before next summer's free-agent bounty, so the question is whether the Bulls should even try to do something to become more competitive - or whether it's even possible.

    And whether what seemed impossible a few months ago should occur: Trade Ben Gordon.

    Even given my unofficial title as shadow general manager, I'm not sure any move would make sense now. It's hard to see where this Bulls team could go with one trade. Since division winners get the top seeds, there seems little chance the Bulls could get a first-round playoff bye, so why panic for a likely opening-round playoff ouster?

    But this mini-guard thing is getting old and seems to be breaking down. And the odd man out might well be Gordon. Not because he has played poorly, but because he is valuable and still has considerable value around the NBA after being the first rookie ever to win Sixth Man of the Year.

    There is little question Gordon, despite not saying much, believes he's a starting player. That's a bigger issue than most believe with young players.

    Listen to the Celtics' Paul Pierce: "I remember my first couple of years, I was playing for my next contract. Even though I wanted to win games, you're playing for your NBA livelihood. Your first two or three years are your most important. I think they think about winning, but at the same time they want to play well and be the best individual that you can be."

    Though it won't become an issue for at least a year, another problem with a youth movement is that most players come up for contracts at about the same time, meaning the Bulls could be looking at almost simultaneous demands from Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng, Chris Duhon and Andres Nocioni. You can't pay them all.

    There have been rumors all season, denied by Gordon, that he would like to be traded. It may not be a bad time to think about it if the Bulls can find a piece that fits for the future.

    The Bulls continue to play hard and it's impressive to watch the relentlessness of their style. But the size issue that they and everyone else talked about to open the season appears to be having a cumulative effect. There's really nothing wrong with playing the season out and taking the one or two lottery picks and salary-cap room and making moves. No one was predicting a championship this season.</div>

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> While Chandler has no reason to worry about being traded before the 2 p.m. Thursday deadline -- in part because of the six-year, $63 million contract he signed before the season -- other Bulls might wonder if their names have come up in talks.

    Ben Gordon's recent scoring spurt -- he has averaged 23.2 points this month to increase his season average to 16.4 -- could make him an even hotter commodity if Paxson is willing to part with the second-year guard.

    "Hopefully, what it will do is make me more valuable to the team, so I won't be traded,'' Gordon said. "It never hurts to play good. I'm just trying to help my team win, so I'm not really thinking about the trade thing.''

    Paxson assured Gordon earlier this season that a broadcast report that the Bulls were talking about trading him to the Boston Celtics as part of a deal for Paul Pierce was false.

    "It's out of my hands,'' Gordon said. "So I'm just going to continue to prepare for games and keep a positive mentality that I'll be here.''

    That's the approach Skiles suggests young players take when it comes to trades.

    "It's just another bridge that young players have to cross if their name is mentioned in some sort of trade rumor or even if it is fact-based,'' Skiles said. "It's part of the business. Guys need to get used to that at this level.''</div><div align="center">

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