Official Game Thread: Jazz @ Rockets

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  1. Trip

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    The Houston Rockets (10-15) return home to Toyota Center Tuesday to play host to the Utah Jazz (11-16). Houston will look to rebound after suffering a 108-86 loss to the Nuggets Friday in Denver. The Jazz host Memphis Monday night in Utah before heading to Houston for the first of three match-ups between the two teams this season.

    Houston and Utah split a four game set last year with each team winning one game on the other?s home court. Two of the three games this year will be played at Toyota Center. Houston is 69-82 all-time vs. Utah, but is 45-30 at home, including a 3-1 mark at Toyota Center.

    Both teams are on a similar course this season as both have had to deal with key injuries. Utah?s record is actually somewhat surprising considering their best player, Andrei Kirilenko, has missed ten games and been limited in six others. Kirilenko is one of the NBA?s best all-around players. Able to score from anywhere, Kirilenko is also one of the league?s? best defenders and is a match-up problem waiting to happen for most teams.</div>Full Rockets.com Preview

    Halftime right now, and the Rockets are up five, 41-36. TMac seems to have gotten out of his funk, scoring 21 of the Rockets' 41, and has already gotten to the line 11 times.
     
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    T-MAC was leaving because of his early due daughter. As a result, Rocket is falling in the 4th quarter by trailing 6pts right now. Hopefully we can get back.
     
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    Why T-Mac isn't playing anymore?
     
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    rockets let it down alot in the 4th quarter.... this is a bad loss... but it did help cd alot by knowing who to trade and not... he can be sure to trade swift... its going to be alright if he waives stephen grahm... he should not trade wesley...
     
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    Had TMac been playing, we undoubtedly would have won. How sad it is that the one game our superstar decides to step it up, he has to play just 9 minutes because a fetus can't wait to come into the new world.

    Stromile Swift is.....undescrible.
     
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    I'm so pissed off by t-mac's leave. He screwed the game up.
     
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    The guy just had a kid. Give him a break, that is imortant to him and he can't make that up. He wants to be there for his family. Wouldn't you do the same for your kid?

    Seriously sometimes some of you can be heartless.

    PS: He also left the game with a performance well done. He even led the team in scoring with just one half. The Rockets team needed to step up for McGrady, but couldn't. 50% shooting in the 1st quarter, and like a combine 22% in the last 2.

    Oh yah don't forget about The Stro Shows 2 very nice dunks. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dingking:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm so pissed off by t-mac's leave. He screwed the game up.</div>
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    having a kid is more important then winning a beggining of the season game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting igotask8board:</div><div class="quote_post">The guy just had a kid. Give him a break, that is imortant to him and he can't make that up. He wants to be there for his family. Wouldn't you do the same for your kid?

    Seriously sometimes some of you can be heartless.

    PS: He also left the game with a performance well done. He even led the team in scoring with just one half. The Rockets team needed to step up for McGrady, but couldn't. 50% shooting in the 1st quarter, and like a combine 22% in the last 2.

    Oh yah don't forget about The Stro Shows 2 very nice dunks. [​IMG] [​IMG]</div>
    I'm not mad that TMac left the game. He did what any family man would do and I understand. The timing is a bit inapproriate though.

    As for the Stro Show; 8 very bad missed shots.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting IversonAllen:</div><div class="quote_post">........
    having a kid is more important then winning a beggining of the season game.</div>

    It's not the beginning of the season. I dont care about anyone's self-interest but our team's benefit here. He got paid so much that he has to take the responsibility to carry on his team rather than dump his teammates halfway. It would be better that if he did not show up at all rather than just play 20 mins of the game.He just interrupted the coach's disposition and strategy, as well as the pace of the game.
    He can stick around with his family all the time if he were not an all-star nba player. He's just not responsible enough and lacks the heart of a champion. He can get 21 points within 20 mins cos he cant wait to leave. How the hell he just did so poorly in the previous games and posted figures such as 7, 17 or so. As the bus driver of the team, he needs to know how to perform in the game and dedicate enough.
     
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    CD im positive will trade the following:

    Stromile will stay because jeff van gundy will convince him to keep stro because this guy is what we all expected him to be. We just need to have patience. We spent money on this guy and i still believe he will get out of his funk and realize that he is on the edge and needs to step it up. He knows that he doesn't want to end up like kwame brown and be the guy everyone says was a waste of a 2nd pick overall.

    Wesley will be traded because hes old and his stock is very high right now and we can get a good deal for him. His stock is so high for an undersized gaurd that can do defense that if CD trades him and doesn't get a good player in return I will begin my angry letter.

    Luther Head will crack the starting lineup when Tmac and Yao are back together because by that time Wesley will be traded(I'm assuming) and Derek Anderson will be back.

    What I want for Wesley: First round draft pick in upcoming draft and a decent player.

    First Round draft pick because this years draft is very deep. If we make the playoffs then we can easily get daniel gibson and another player.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dingking:</div><div class="quote_post">It's not the beginning of the season. I dont care about anyone's self-interest but our team's benefit here. He got paid so much that he has to take the responsibility to carry on his team rather than dump his teammates halfway. It would be better that if he did not show up at all rather than just play 20 mins of the game.He just interrupted the coach's disposition and strategy, as well as the pace of the game.
    He can stick around with his family all the time if he were not an all-star nba player. He's just not responsible enough and lacks the heart of a champion. He can get 21 points within 20 mins cos he cant wait to leave. How the hell he just did so poorly in the previous games and posted figures such as 7, 17 or so. As the bus driver of the team, he needs to know how to perform in the game and dedicate enough.</div>

    Please.........one day you'll have a kid and understand, and since whe do you know what JVG's "Disposition and strategy" is???The fact is we had a chance to win but with 17 TO's and again not hitting open shots we gave it away,T-mac or not we still could have won. And BTW as a man, you have WAY more responsibility to your children than anything else.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dingking:</div><div class="quote_post">It's not the beginning of the season. I dont care about anyone's self-interest but our team's benefit here. He got paid so much that he has to take the responsibility to carry on his team rather than dump his teammates halfway. It would be better that if he did not show up at all rather than just play 20 mins of the game.He just interrupted the coach's disposition and strategy, as well as the pace of the game.
    He can stick around with his family all the time if he were not an all-star nba player. He's just not responsible enough and lacks the heart of a champion. He can get 21 points within 20 mins cos he cant wait to leave. How the hell he just did so poorly in the previous games and posted figures such as 7, 17 or so. As the bus driver of the team, he needs to know how to perform in the game and dedicate enough.</div>

    Are you not human? Do you have a soul? Do you have a heart? No? Okay.

    As a fan you should care about the welfare of the team and its players. Your first responsibility as a person is to be decent human being, not a rabid animal who would sacrifice your superstar's firstborn child to win a championship.

    I don't know how the chinese are programmed to value duty over family, because family is much more important than a win, its much more important than a championship. You only get to see your child born once, and if you see it twice... Well thats just sick.
     
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    Doesn't anyone think its pretty impressive McGrady had twenty one points in one half? I'm pretty sure his teammates feel for him and more than likely told him to go see his newborn daughter. It wasn't really too much of a distraction rather than something that pushed them harder to step it up. Even without McGrady, Houston still stayed in the game so its obvious it took a lot of effort from guys like Howard, Wesley, or Head. By the way, could we be seeing the revitalization of the career of Juwan Howard? He's been doing great the past few games, perhaps a miracle can happen and he'll keep this up a bit longer.
     
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    it seems when mcgrady out the number 1 option is pass it to howard... i like that idea... casue sometime the guard thats the closet to howard would try to strip it, but he passes it to wesly... then he passes it to head (at top) then he passes it to whoever is in t he corner.... thats when stephen grahm is.. but he is not consistent in shooting at ALL.... he tends to shoot it himself.. casue there was tons of chances where he could have pass it to Luther....
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting chineseafro:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you not human? Do you have a soul? Do you have a heart? No? Okay.

    As a fan you should care about the welfare of the team and its players. Your first responsibility as a person is to be decent human being, not a rabid animal who would sacrifice your superstar's firstborn child to win a championship.

    I don't know how the chinese are programmed to value duty over family, because family is much more important than a win, its much more important than a championship. You only get to see your child born once, and if you see it twice... Well thats just sick.</div>

    You know what, if Yao had the same case he would never leave the game. Yes, we do have different point of view towards this. We were brought up like this. BTW, please dont relate my personel comments to any irrelavant thing such as "do u hav a soul" n' stuff like that.
     
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    It's funny how one person makes a stupid comment and everyone turns on him. We had a really good topic going which was based on this game, who will be traded/waived/or kept on the team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">CD im positive will trade the following:

    Stromile will stay because jeff van gundy will convince him to keep stro because this guy is what we all expected him to be. We just need to have patience. We spent money on this guy and i still believe he will get out of his funk and realize that he is on the edge and needs to step it up. He knows that he doesn't want to end up like kwame brown and be the guy everyone says was a waste of a 2nd pick overall.

    Wesley will be traded because hes old and his stock is very high right now and we can get a good deal for him. His stock is so high for an undersized gaurd that can do defense that if CD trades him and doesn't get a good player in return I will begin my angry letter.

    Luther Head will crack the starting lineup when Tmac and Yao are back together because by that time Wesley will be traded(I'm assuming) and Derek Anderson will be back.

    What I want for Wesley: First round draft pick in upcoming draft and a decent player.

    First Round draft pick because this years draft is very deep. If we make the playoffs then we can easily get daniel gibson and another player.</div>
    Stromile Swift is already in Van Gundy's doghouse and I don't see how Van Gundy will want him to stay. If he doesn't get traded, the only reason will be his contract and lack of market value.

    As for Wesley, his stock might be high but definitely not worth a first rounder, let alone another decent player. He is 35, with a moderate-sized expiring contract and about two more productive seasons in the NBA. He'd fetch two second-rounders at most. Also, you seem to dislike him as you badger for him to be traded no matter how he's playing. When he's doing bad, you say trade him now because he can't help us, and when he does well, you say trade him now because his value is high. Why not trade Luther Head too? His value is high. [​IMG]
     
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    Actually, I was one of the ones that didn't want to trade Wesley because he was shooting bad. I was advocating giving him time because he was recovering from surgery. I wanted him to be moved to the bench and let anderson start, but never wanted him traded. Of course, I want him to be traded now or near the trade deadline, but when he was in his slump I didn't.
     
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    Why are we thinking about trading Wesley anyway? There is a reason why his stock is so high, its because he is doing well, contributing pretty well for this cursed Houston team. I suggest keeping him for a while. Besides, it will be hard to get a player like him who can play defense, hit the 3, and be a leader.

    Even if Stromile Swift is traded, we couldn't get crap for him. There is a reason we got him, we didn't even need him to improve from last year, we just asked for rebounding, a scorer in the post, a capable defender. Give Swift some time, he will suprise us sooner or later, and I think giving him more minutes is an option.

    And I expected Barry and Alston to be back by now?
     

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