The warriors arent getting a lot of love from the refs....and i think monty has a lot to do with it. I think he's a soft *****...just like dun-dun. Why cant the warriors hire dennis rodman to like a fire under these guys??
Guess what? Refs are people just like the players. They make mistakes, sure. But they try just as hard as the players. Players need to realize that before they start whining. Somehow, players are allowed to screw up but refs must be 100%. Get over it, its part of the game, calls go for you and they go against you. Refs do not have the quickness to make a call based on bias, no one is that smart/quick. Unless you want to play with computerized referees, which would be horrible, see Orwell's <font color=""RoyalBlue"">1984</font>.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kensaku:</div><div class="quote_post">Dennis Rodman, huh? We might as well hire a hooker.</div>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Guess what? Refs are people just like the players. They make mistakes, sure. But they try just as hard as the players. Players need to realize that before they start whining. Somehow, players are allowed to screw up but refs must be 100%. Get over it, its part of the game, calls go for you and they go against you. Refs do not have the quickness to make a call based on bias, no one is that smart/quick. Unless you want to play with computerized referees, which would be horrible, see Orwell's <font color=""RoyalBlue"">1984</font>.</div> I agree they will make mistakes, but why is it the NBA refs that are the only bad ones? MLB and NFL refs/umps are accurate almost all the time and for the most part have to make tougher calls. The biggest problem with NBA refs IMO is consistency. In Memphis Murphy got his shot blocked but when Lo Wright (I tihnk it was him) had the exact same thing happen to him it was a foul. They just have to call the game the same on both sides of the floor. Another huge problem is when you have one refferee calling double the fouls of the other two officials, it just doesnt work and its going to cost one team the game.
Run, that's just part of human nature. Yes some guys call too many fouls, I agree. About 8 years ago I ref'd at my local gym, it was pretty high quality play with some bigs (one of my teammates was 7'0" and started at Brown and there were a couple of retired (white) NBA guys), and one of my buddies who ref'd all the time at HS games told me don't call a foul unless someone was getting an advantage. Well if you watch, most of the time its no big deal, just let it go. The NBA has a lot of ticky-tack fouls but I think that's just a byproduct of how big and how fast the guys are. NBA refs are no different that MLB or NFL officials. Probably a little better if you ask me.
I think the NBA referees review each game to see how many calls they blew or to see if they were calling the game fair. That's better than nothing even if a team lost because of a bad call (jazz vs. lakers game was really horrible!). I don't know which refs in the league are the worst but I think names like Bill Spooner and Zach Zarba have to be the refs that never call the game consistently. Sure, it's tough getting up and down on that floor, but it's about decision making and vision of the floor. If they had all that, they might be point guards for some team.
You never know. Steve Javie used to be thought to be one of the worst around here (by Greg Papa I think, oh I miss him and maybe Don Nelson.) But now he's looked upon as one of the best I think and he gets good assignments. The best are Jess Kersey types (Old school Jake O'Donnell) who do not do too much nor call too many fouls but make quick decisive calls.
ok....fine....i agree there is nothing that can be done about the calls. But everytime there is a bad call, Monty stands up, gives the ref a blank stare, and a little smirk. When Lo Wright got called for the same foul as Murph, Monty went back into his bad call routine... I think he needs to show more emotion and make a stand for the team by verbally abusing the refs by any means necessary....Get Kicked out of Games!!! Even Barnett mentioned this the other night...get 2 t's...it would show his team how passionate he is about winning. ****...lets let Keith Smart take a head coaching spot somewhere in the league next year, and hire Bobby Knight. There are some coaches that get quite respect (Phil Jackson, Larry Brown) and there are others lower on the totem pole that need to get off their fat wallet and beg for it... Some night...like tonite...the Warriors dont look like the advertised product at the beginning of the year...and this starts imo with the coach. I really dont want to compare him to the dennis erickson era of the 49ers, but if he continues to sit on the bench and suck on his ricola....it may come to that.
And if Dunleavy was a real triple threat....i wouldnt be this frustrated with the warriors. Dunleavy is exactly the same athlete as Kevan Barlow....they are great until they get a contract....then the bags of cash in their pockets are too heavy for them to get off the ground...
Barlow was a malcontent in college and he's showing the same selfish tendencies in the NFL. Dunleavy has not ever been anything of the sort, in fact that's his biggest problem, unselfishness.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting scania612:</div><div class="quote_post">And if Dunleavy was a real triple threat....i wouldnt be this frustrated with the warriors.</div> He is a triple threat. He's a threat to us! He's 1.) soft 2.) timid 3.) inconsistent Scania, In Dunleavy's defense he is a guy that can 1.) pass 2.) shoot (midrangers) 3.) drive (against slower/weaker dudes than he) I can't explain his passivity and his softness, other than Mike Dunleavy only releases testosterone when he gets whacked in the head from guys like Matt Harpring or shoved by Dirk Nowitzki on the drive. The other thing is I don't think Dunleavy knows his role on the team quite yet with scorers such as Baron/Jrich/Murphy/Fisher/Pietrus and he feels he doesn't have the green light to do a lot of things as the other scoring players. But he looked a lot better without Murphy on the floor or other guys that tend to stand around only moving if they are looking for their own shot. Maybe there's something that points to Murphy impeding Dunleavy's style of play a certain way. Dunleavy could very well be a coach someday, he plays smart, but unfortunately he's not going to play aggressive unless he sees the logic behind taking chances in an half court, perimeter oriented team. A perimeter oriented team will take tons of chances to create something out of nothing when the defenses are already set such as driving the ball through traffic or shooting a long shot without anybody under the hoop to get the offensive board. Since Dunleavy is on a harder, different level than he was at college, he can't beat anybody off the dribble like Baron Davis can. Nobody on this team can unless they turn on the blinders and fail to hit the open guy. That's why we need to figure out what the team's roles and identity are. Ideally, we want this team to be an inside/outside scoring force with adequate defense coming from all 5 starting positions. Baron Davis, Jason Richardson, Mike Dunleavy jr., and Ike Diogu are all high basketball I.Q. type players with vison of the floor and can create for others as well as defend. I think these guys should be starting. It's just a question of who is the real big man center that can control the glass and protect the paint, get 2nd chance points, and score within the flow without stopping the ball? We've found Foyle can't set the tone as starter and some people are seeing that Murphy would rather shoot than pass, which is especially annoying because he's a big man who should be creating down low for us and getting more physical with the other team. We're just too soft inside.
