Take it with a grain of salt but the Artest deal may stall all the way until the deadline. The reason is apparently Mullin is holding out hoping to get an even bigger superstar. I personally think this rumor I picked up is bogus. The whole point of Mullin's trades have been to acquire great talent when their value is at low value to keep his core but improve the team. There's no superstar out there who's value will be within reach of Pietrus/Murphy etc. Mullin won't blow up the team yet. Just wanted to let you guys know this Indiana deal may take longer than the end of this week, which is torture for all of us.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">An entire league was put on notice last month when Ron Artest went public with his desire to leave the Pacers. Artest told the Indianapolis Star that his past -- most notably his central role in last season's brawl -- "haunts me here" and suggested that a clean break from Indiana would serve both parties well. As a player, Artest was a single entity. As a trade request, he became a multi-headed enigma. Which teams would be willing to take on the volatile forward? Who would the Pacers get for their disgruntled star? How many players would be involved to make the salaries match? Such remains the Ron Artest Derby, which passes through Oakland with tonight's nationally televised game. Though the Pacers have been fielding offers for nearly a month and general manager Donnie Walsh wants the issue resolved sooner rather than later, a deal for Artest has yet to be struck. Players around the league don't know if they will be headed to Indiana. The Pacers' players don't know if they'll be headed out the door with Artest, who hasn't been with the team since his trade demand. Coach Rick Carlisle is doing all he can do keep the Artest spectacle from becoming a distraction. "We can't allow it to be, it's as simple as that," Carlisle said Wednesday. "Our guys have gotten used to just putting things out of their minds and playing. It's tough when you're shorthanded -- I mean, right now we're without Jermaine (O'Neal) and Jamaal (Tinsley), too, so that makes it even harder. "But the games are still coming. Every two or three days, they're still going to throw the ball up and you got to play. So that's where we are." Where then, are the Warriors in the Artest sweepstakes? Vice president Chris Mullin and general manager Rod Higgins declined to elaborate, citing team policy against commenting on trades and players under contract elsewhere. The Warriors, however, reportedly are one of several teams in the running, and they certainly have the pieces to pull off a trade. They have young talent headlined by rookie Ike Diogu, second-year center Andris Biedrins and third-year swingman Mickael Pietrus. They have older pieces in Mike Dunleavy and Troy Murphy. And they have a proven guard in Derek Fisher. Any trade is likely to involve multiple players because Artest is making a relatively modest $6.5 million this season. NBA rules stipulate that salaries must come within 25 percent of each other, and the Pacers aren't likely to get equal value in a straight-up deal. The Warriors must decide if Artest is worth his excess baggage. And if so, at what cost. Mullin rolled the dice last year when he traded for Baron Davis, sending Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis to the Hornets in February. The trade wasn't an equal exchange of talent, but it also wasn't without risk. Mullin took on the remainder of Davis' maximum contract and pushed the Warriors dangerously close to the luxury tax. The gamble paid dividends. Thirty-two games into the season, the Warriors are 17-15 and six wins ahead of last year's 11-21 record. Another gamble, this time for Artest, who went to St. John's -- as did Mullin -- would require parting with significantly better talent this time. </div> Source
I read on justbball.com the only reason why Artest isnt a warrior already is that the pacers dont want to face him in tonights game. It sounds like the deal has already been made, and will be announced after tonight or tommorrow. I have a bad feeling its murphy and draft picks, but it could still be foyle and dunleacy or pietrus and beidrins.
I just hope it's not Biedrins or Diogu. AB will not get no PT there at all, so what's the point to trade him? I hope it would be Dun and Foyle lol Post x-mas miracle... Like it was said in article "Warriors' Housen much more than an equipment manager" By Marcus Thompson II CONTRA COSTA TIMES (sorry don't have a link). <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Second-year post Andris Biedrins is a regular in the gym, but he doesn't come close. Guard Jason Richardson is a distant second.</div> I have a feeling Diogu might be the one to go with MP, cuz he sudnely recieved a lot of PT from Monty, and it's strange due to his rokie policy...
Hard to imagine the Warriors giving up on Ike already. Where would he fit on the Pacer roster, since JO gets the majority of his minutes at PF, and does not like playing Center. I think Foyle makes a lot of sense for Indy. He can do the things Dale Davis did for them last season, but are the Pacers willing to absorb his contract? Probably not. What ever the combination turns out to be, the Warriors will improve once Artest comes over. The trio of B. Diddy + JRich + Tru Warier is deadly in the West and the Warriors have enoug depth to go deep in the playoffs. He will work out in Golden State, because the fans will embrace him and the Bay Area will embrace him. Just look through the history of Bay Area sports, and all the headcases who have come here and performed great. Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Will Clark, Jose Canseco, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, Latrell Sprewell ... etc. These players had career years playing in the Bay Area, sometimes it doesn't always work out in the long run, but I think Artest and his excentrict style will be more accepted in the liberal Bay than conservative Indiana. I think this Trio could challenge the legendary Run TMC for the best trio to put on the Warrior jersey.
I don't know. It's hard to believe that Mullin will chase for superstars instead of Artest, when the deal for superstar is not there (as far as we know) and Artest deal is there for taking. It seems like we can package the best deal for Artest, since number of rumors are linked between Indiana and us. However, Indiana also have games to play, and they would like to receive an immidiate help and end this parade with Artest soon. And, they won't be dragged by us till trade deadline. And yeah. The only reason we can acquire Artest at bargain price is because of his baggage. If we are actually serious about acquiring superstars without baggage, we have to part Richardson or expiring contracts, and we do not have either...
Heard that Mullin is pushing hard for Croshere and wants to give up Mike D Artest Foster Croshere for Pietrus Murphy Dunleavy Cheaney as a filler Maybe a future pick also added In Is the deal that seems very possible.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Heard that Mullin is pushing hard for Croshere and wants to give up Mike D Artest Foster Croshere for Pietrus Murphy Dunleavy Cheaney as a filler Maybe a future pick also added In Is the deal that seems very possible.</div> Where do I sign? I don't think that's what Indiana is looking for though. Although, they may not be able to dump salaries and acquire talents, I don't think they want to add any more salaries. Combination of Murphy and Dunleavy are about 19 mils for next 5 years, significantly adding payroll from already inflated Indiana payroll, not to mention Pietrus' inevitable extension. I can see some team adding Murphy and his 10 mils salary, but it will take a lot of suger coating for any team to even consider taking Dunleavy's contract...
do you think Fish would be involved at all? Even though he's older it seems like he could help their team in a playoff run even tho they do have Jasiksuoidufosidufosidufodsiuf. They could be part of the 2nd unit.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see Artest going to the Warriors because Pacers would be losing out on that deal.</div> Well the Pacers have already accepted they are not going to get equal value in return for Artest. They are hoping to get back young cheap talent or unload some ugly contracts by packaging Artest with them. If Pacers feel Dunleavy or Murphy could be a missing piece to the puzzle, they might scrap their original intentions and accept either of them, possibly both. Right now getting something for Artest is better than getting nothing for him and having to deal with him sitting on the bench all season long. There is also pressure from David Stern now, because he doesn't endorse the Pacers putting Artest on the inactive list for the rest of the season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jzblaze:</div><div class="quote_post">do you think Fish would be involved at all? Even though he's older it seems like he could help their team in a playoff run even tho they do have Jasiksuoidufosidufosidufodsiuf. They could be part of the 2nd unit.</div> GS don't want to lose Fisher due to his experience and the fact they would have no one else to run the point to back-up Baron. Aaron Miles has been waived maybe that means this 8 player trade is set to happen or they just don't want him anymore I think it has come a time where Donny Walsh wants good talent back and they aren't going to get a better deal than this one. Mullin IS worried about the lack of rebounding with Murphy gone and realises that with Artest he would have no room for Mike D. Mainly due to what he is getting paid so he wants another BIG added to the deal. Makes sense to me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">GS don't want to lose Fisher due to his experience and the fact they would have no one else to run the point to back-up Baron. Aaron Miles has been waived maybe that means this 8 player trade is set to happen or they just don't want him anymore I think it has come a time where Donny Walsh wants good talent back and they aren't going to get a better deal than this one. Mullin IS worried about the lack of rebounding with Murphy gone and realises that with Artest he would have no room for Mike D. Mainly due to what he is getting paid so he wants another BIG added to the deal. Makes sense to me.</div> yup
Murphy and Dun in the same deal? I wouldn't think in a million years Indiana would take that deal...it makes no economical sense at all for them. It would be great for the W's, but that is not going to happen. If it does, I will go streaking through the Oakland Arena and provoke Artest to punch me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kensaku:</div><div class="quote_post">Murphy and Dun in the same deal? I wouldn't think in a million years Indiana would take that deal...it makes no economical sense at all for them. It would be great for the W's, but that is not going to happen. If it does, I will go streaking through the Oakland Arena and provoke Artest to punch me.</div> ok
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Lakers, by reliable accounts, aren't in the Artest derby. Golden State remains the favorite. Apparently it has been long enough that the Warriors have forgotten that whole Latrell Sprewell thing. </div> http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/n...orts-nba-lakers
