Wow...

Discussion in 'Phoenix Suns' started by unbeliever, Jan 10, 2006.

  1. unbeliever

    unbeliever JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    It sucks watching refs essentially *give* the home team the win. Congrats denver, your investments must have paid off. Fouls being called where none happened, no calls where they should and bull blocking fouls that were obviously offensive fouls. Oh and deciding to change what was legitimately a 3 pointer into a 2 pointer, very classy.

    Bad refereeing ruins the game.
     
  2. Jerry West

    Jerry West JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    Messages:
    1,000
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    That's a cheap cop out.

    Every single time Phoenix lose a close game their fans have a cry and blame the refs.

    Denver came out on top in what was an awesome game. All props go to them.

    Suck it up dude.
     
  3. Run BJM

    Run BJM Heavy lies the crown. Staff Member Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2005
    Messages:
    8,749
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Welcome to the NBA. Seriously, it sucks, I'd know as a Warrior fan, but theres nothing we can do about it.
     
  4. Jerry West

    Jerry West JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    Messages:
    1,000
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Refereeing is pretty ordinary, i just get pissed when people always blame it for their team losing.

    It seems to be very common amongst Phoenix fans.
     
  5. unbeliever

    unbeliever JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    We had our share in some poor plays here and there. But there were some seriously bad calls in the closing seconds of the last, er, 4 quarters. If you don't think that doesn't affect the game.. then I dunno what to say.

    It's sort of like the 2004 presidential election. I'm just as mad about the appearance of shenanigans (or in this case, ineptitude) as I am about the actual outcome. It's that doubt in the fidelity of the control that can ruin a game.

    Or, to wax poetic; Doubt casts a long and dark shadow, obscuring any good elements of a thing.
     
  6. Jerry West

    Jerry West JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    Messages:
    1,000
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    I understand your pain and anger (i feel it often being a Grizz fan), just don't see a point in blaming refs for losses.

    Good luck for the rest of the year.
     
  7. unbeliever

    unbeliever JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">I understand your pain and anger (i feel it often being a Grizz fan), just don't see a point in blaming refs for losses.

    Good luck for the rest of the year.</div>

    Heh, I'm blaming the refs for my frustration I guess. The suns and nuggets I blame for the loss. The refs just made it an ugly loss, in my opinion. It's been a long day and I'm extra bitchy. Heh.
     
  8. Jerry West

    Jerry West JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2004
    Messages:
    1,000
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting unbeliever:</div><div class="quote_post">Heh, I'm blaming the refs for my frustration I guess. The suns and nuggets I blame for the loss. The refs just made it an ugly loss, in my opinion. It's been a long day and I'm extra bitchy. Heh.</div>

    No worries at all

    Like i said, i can sympathise. We lost a double OT game to the Pistons recently. Stung for a while.
     
  9. unbeliever

    unbeliever JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">No worries at all

    Like i said, i can sympathise. We lost a double OT game to the Pistons recently. Stung for a while.</div>

    Yeah, the suns lost a triple OT game to the Knicks just a few games back, that was a real heart breaker too. When the games go on that long the tensions gets drawn out to the point of being painful. I can only imagine how it is for the players to deal with, on top of the physical demands of playing all those extra minutes.
     
  10. emannen

    emannen JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2004
    Messages:
    300
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">Refereeing is pretty ordinary, i just get pissed when people always blame it for their team losing.

    It seems to be very common amongst Phoenix fans.</div>

    Based on what, the 30 fans in this forum?! Great label!!!

    [​IMG]
     
  11. *Scotch

    *Scotch JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2004
    Messages:
    115
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">Refereeing is pretty ordinary, i just get pissed when people always blame it for their team losing.

    It seems to be very common amongst Phoenix fans.</div>

    The suns should have won both of those 3OT's in regulation. I blame the suns for careless fouling early in those games that lead to being shorthanded down the stretch. However that's the game you win some you lose some. To me every lose stings in its own unique way.

    However, I have never once blamed the refs for a games outcome!

    sure they make bad calls sometimes, but more often than not they make the correct calls. Jerry West I take offense to your acqusations, each person is entitled to their own opinion, but please don't generalize your opinion of one as an opinion for the whole.[​IMG]
     
  12. theunknown

    theunknown JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2006
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Im a Suns fan but i have to disagree with u unbeliever. Refs do make bad calls sometimes but the players are the ones who control the game. The players are the ones who decide who wins the game. The refs can't pick or vote on who wins. It's the players decision who wins, by which team plays the best.
     
  13. unbeliever

    unbeliever JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting theunknown:</div><div class="quote_post">Im a Suns fan but i have to disagree with u unbeliever. Refs do make bad calls sometimes but the players are the ones who control the game. The players are the ones who decide who wins the game. The refs can't pick or vote on who wins. It's the players decision who wins, by which team plays the best.</div>

    How about calls like where they blatantly ignored tim duncan hanging on the rim for offensive basket interference? Free two points toward the end of a close game. Luckily it didn't matter, but it easily could have. There really needs to be one or two coach's reviews, at the very least in the playoffs.

    I'll say it again though, I'm not blaming the refs for the loss really, I'm blaming them for my frustration and for "tainting" a game with bad calls.
     
  14. theunknown

    theunknown JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2006
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting unbeliever:</div><div class="quote_post">How about calls like where they blatantly ignored tim duncan hanging on the rim for offensive basket interference? Free two points toward the end of a close game. Luckily it didn't matter, but it easily could have. There really needs to be one or two coach's reviews, at the very least in the playoffs.

    I'll say it again though, I'm not blaming the refs for the loss really, I'm blaming them for my frustration and for "tainting" a game with bad calls.</div>


    Even if it's your <u>FRUSTRATION</u>, it is still the Suns you should be blaming for your <u>FRUSTRATION</u>, not the refs.
     
  15. theunknown

    theunknown JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2006
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jerry West:</div><div class="quote_post">That's a cheap cop out.

    Every single time Phoenix lose a close game their fans have a cry and blame the refs.

    Denver came out on top in what was an awesome game. All props go to them.

    Suck it up dude.</div>


    I don't think you can say that is the way all Phoenix fans react. I agree, all props should go to the team who shows up to play hard and go all out, but you can't say <u><font color=""Purple"">ALL</font></u> Phoenix fans are that way just b/c one fan posted this...nice try tho.
     
  16. unbeliever

    unbeliever JBB JustBBall Member

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2004
    Messages:
    384
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting theunknown:</div><div class="quote_post">Even if it's your <u>FRUSTRATION</u>, it is still the Suns you should be blaming for your <u>FRUSTRATION</u>, not the refs.</div>

    I'll blame whom I wish for my frustration, thanks. I was frustrated with the Suns for not pulling out the win. I was frustrated with the Refs because the bad calls soured the overall game. Those are two different things.
     

Share This Page