Channing Frye Is Soft?

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  1. Mr. J

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    Where in the world did he get that Charmain rep?
     
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    wheres the facial on burke?

    and youre stupid if you think frye is soft
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting superman32:</div><div class="quote_post">wheres the facial on burke?</div>
    I was looking all over for that picture, but I couldn't find it. I was also looking for the one on Mbenga yesterday, but couldn't get it again. Don't worry though, we'll probably add a lot more to the list as the season progresses.
     
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    Great pictures! The Alonzo Mourning one and the Dunk against Bogut are really nice. Hmm for a poster I would buy the Mourning one for sure. [​IMG]
     
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    ^He got blocked against Alnozo, but it just shows how aggressive he is taking it to the rack against the NBA's best shot blocker.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">^He got blocked against Alnozo, but it just shows how aggressive he is taking it to the rack against the NBA's best shot blocker.</div>
    Mike Dunleavy Jr. did the exact same thing, is he still soft? Just because you've made some nice dunks doesnt necessarily mean you aren't soft. Channing Frye isn't as soft as he is made out to be but he still isn't a tough player inside.
     
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    no way is he soft.
    but the last picture reminds me of Amare.
     
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    He's not soft, but he's not what you'd call an intimidating big man.
     
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    Okay, MR J. you got me....I was wrong...for the first time.
     
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    Ain't it funny how Frye always seemed soft at Arizona, and now isn't anymore in NY? Did Larry Brown toughen him up?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Mike Dunleavy Jr. did the exact same thing, is he still soft? Just because you've made some nice dunks doesnt necessarily mean you aren't soft. Channing Frye isn't as soft as he is made out to be but he still isn't a tough player inside.</div>
    The way most people depicted Frye, especially before the draft was as a soft player. His dunks are just a testament of how aggressive he is no matter who it is. Alonzo Mourning has been intimidating players for well over a decade now, but he still tried to throw it down on him, despite him being one of the front runners for defensive player of the year. He doesn't shy away from contact and has dealt with the media, fans, and coaching criticism. So, what makes Frye not tough in the inside like you say?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">The way most people depicted Frye, especially before the draft was as a soft player. His dunks are just a testament of how aggressive he is no matter who it is. Alonzo Mourning has been intimidating players for well over a decade now, but he still tried to throw it down on him, despite him being one of the front runners for defensive player of the year. He doesn't shy away from contact and has dealt with the media, fans, and coaching criticism. So, what makes Frye not tough in the inside like you say?</div>
    If a center is always hanging around the perimeter and only shoots fade aways, those are soft skills.

    Let me say that its not bad to be soft, because with being soft comes skill.

    Shaq is not soft, he has no touch. However he is very physical.

    Centers are needed to be physical a lot of times, being physical is the ability to bang for offensive boards, block out people on d, back your man down and do a post up move.

    So a combination of having the soft touch, and being physical is needed. However for centers it is more important to be physical than soft.

    I don't know Frye's game enough to know what style of player he is. I can say Bosh is a soft PF, Brand is a physical PF, KG and TD can be physical or soft. (TD is more physical and KG is has more soft skills).
     
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    who cares if hes soft or not, he like to do all kinds of things when he get the ball at the perimeter, he takes jump shots, when hes downlow he does hooks or drive past his defender for a dunk and i think hes quicker than most pf's
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Okay, MR J. you got me....I was wrong...for the first time.</div>
    ... and that time you said the isiah built a team that could never go on a win streak[​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">If a center is always hanging around the perimeter and only shoots fade aways, those are soft skills.

    Let me say that its not bad to be soft, because with being soft comes skill.

    Shaq is not soft, he has no touch. However he is very physical.

    Centers are needed to be physical a lot of times, being physical is the ability to bang for offensive boards, block out people on d, back your man down and do a post up move.

    So a combination of having the soft touch, and being physical is needed. However for centers it is more important to be physical than soft.

    I don't know Frye's game enough to know what style of player he is. I can say Bosh is a soft PF, Brand is a physical PF, KG and TD can be physical or soft. (TD is more physical and KG is has more soft skills).</div>
    Frye plays mostly power forward. He plays center for a small portion. But because he's on the perimeter doesn't mean he's soft. He's very effective shooting on the perimeter, so that's why he does it. Frye is a very thinly-built big man, so he's not a type of player to push players around centers; this is where is jumper comes into play. He's also been working on some post moves and has a very nice hook shot. Just the fact that he's willing to take it to the rack on anyone shows he's got some toughness in him.

    I guess what I'm asking is, what's the definition of a soft player?
     
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    dont know how to explain the def but dwyane wade is the exact opposite of soft player, soft player = the opposite of wade
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting rookie789:</div><div class="quote_post">dont know how to explain the def but dwyane wade is the exact opposite of soft player, soft player = the opposite of wade</div>
    lol, good definition. [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Frye plays mostly power forward. He plays center for a small portion. But because he's on the perimeter doesn't mean he's soft. He's very effective shooting on the perimeter, so that's why he does it. Frye is a very thinly-built big man, so he's not a type of player to push players around centers; this is where is jumper comes into play. He's also been working on some post moves and has a very nice hook shot. Just the fact that he's willing to take it to the rack on anyone shows he's got some toughness in him.

    I guess what I'm asking is, what's the definition of a soft player?</div>
    I guess my definition of a soft player is a player that has size and tends to take jump shots over being a post presence, is a weak post defender, shoots too many fadeaways in the post, does not attempt to outmuscle opponents for better position for offensive boards and post moves.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SkiptoMyLue11:</div><div class="quote_post">I guess my definition of a soft player is a player that has size and tends to take jump shots over being a post presence, is a weak post defender, shoots too many fadeaways in the post, does not attempt to outmuscle opponents for better position for offensive boards and post moves.</div>
    Channing Frye is too weak to attempt to outmuscle anyone in the post. That's not his fault, he was just born with that body type. He's working on his post moves, but with Eddy Curry around, Frye is more effective as a compliment jump shooting big man. Frye is doing what he?s good at and it?s been working out for him and the Knicks. It?s not like he?s shying away from contact. As the pictures show, he?s been very aggressive. Guys like Dwyane Wade are pretty strong for guards, so they attack the basket a lot more. Wade?s jumper has improved a lot since coming into the league, but his forte was never shooting ? it was always attacking. I just don't think because Frye is big and likes to shoot jumpers means he's soft. He can take contact, criticism, and isn't initimidated by an opposing big man.
     
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    soft = not ginobili
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">Channing Frye is too weak to attempt to outmuscle anyone in the post. That's not his fault, he was just born with that body type. He's working on his post moves, but with Eddy Curry around, Frye is more effective as a compliment jump shooting big man. Frye is doing what he?s good at and it?s been working out for him and the Knicks. It?s not like he?s shying away from contact. As the pictures show, he?s been very aggressive. Guys like Dwyane Wade are pretty strong for guards, so they attack the basket a lot more. Wade?s jumper has improved a lot since coming into the league, but his forte was never shooting ? it was always attacking. I just don't think because Frye is big and likes to shoot jumpers means he's soft. He can take contact, criticism, and isn't initimidated by an opposing big man.</div>
    I really can't judge Frye very well, it sounds like he is trying hard and is trying to improve in the nba. So if he keeps that up, good things will happen. Larry Brown should keep playing him and Curry together, because that could become a decent tandem.
     

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