<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ArizonaSportsFan22:</div><div class="quote_post">I hate how everyone thinks Nash is the only reason we are playing well. That is not true at all. We have a lot of good players on the team this year. Nash is important but I think D'Antoni's offensive system is more important. With Dallas Nash was averaging 3 or 4 less assists, that is a big difference. D'Antoni's first full season was when Nash came. And to say that Nash made Amare good is dumb. Amare was doing very, very well without Nash and when Nash came it was just Amare's 3rd season and that's when young players usually do start playing well, like Barbosa did this year. Without Nash last year we would have been horrible, but this year we have some depth so we would probably be a 6th or 7th seed in the playoffs. Eddie House, Boris Diaw and Leandro Barbosa RIGHT NOW are capable of running the offense as good as most poing guards. The team is not just good because Nash is here. They are good because Bryan Colangelo brought the best possible combination of coaches, all-stars, and other players together.</div> I agree with your points but you do have to admit that the Suns would not be the popular and most exciting team to watch in the NBA when they are playing well.
His play this year has lead me to believe that he is more deserving of the MVP this season than last. Whether or not he gets it, is up to his competition.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chutney:</div><div class="quote_post">His play this year has lead me to believe that he is more deserving of the MVP this season than last. Whether or not he gets it, is up to his competition.</div> I agree because last season, he had Amare to throw to, which helped out his assist numbers. This year, Amare ahs been out for a long time, and his assists per game are up from last season. Plus, he is more of an offensive threat so far this season.
They'll make the playoffs, but won't go far Barbosa is a very good scorer Diaw is a great player Kurt Thomas is consistant Marion is a MVP caliber plaer Raja Bell is a 3pt beast, and a great perimeter defender James Jones and Eddie House are some of the most explosive bench players in the NBA.
^ I think alot of those players are as good as they are this year thanks to Nash. Diaw was pure garbage in ATL, now with Nash on his team all the sudden hes a good player. I think something similar could be said for just about all those players mentioned.
Suns will likely make the conference finals by default. As long as Amare is back no one in their side of the bracket can beat them. Hell they will likely be favourites to make It without him.
Do you think once Amare is back, that him and Nash will carry the SUNS to the Finals and to a Championship?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting theunknown:</div><div class="quote_post">Do you think once Amare is back, that him and Nash will carry the SUNS to the Finals and to a Championship?</div> I think it's a possibility this year, but next year when Amare will be back at full strength, and if they keep this years team together (unlike the dismantling of last year's team) it would be a dissapointment if they didn't win the title. The Suns haven't had such a complete and dominant team since the Barkley era, when the only thing that got in their way of a title were some fellas named Jordan and Pippen, and later Hakeem (cuz they would've won the title both years in MJs absence if it weren't for the Rockets).
^ I think they would have. They were one win away from beating the Rockets when the Rockets won 3 straight, the last on a Mario Elie 3-pointer. The Rockets swept Orlando. So I think the Suns could've handled Orlando. I think Shaq would've had a better series against the Suns since he didn't have to take on Hakeem, but nobody could stop the Barkley/KJ combo back then.
Who? What sig? Me? If you're talking to me, I made the sig a while back. Been meaning to update it, but I never make the time.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Downtown:</div><div class="quote_post">Who? What sig? Me? If you're talking to me, I made the sig a while back. Been meaning to update it, but I never make the time.</div> Yea, that sig is sweet!!!!!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting theunknown:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea, that sig is sweet!!!!!!</div> Thanks for the compliment. Just updated the design.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting GiantMidget:</div><div class="quote_post">^ I think alot of those players are as good as they are this year thanks to Nash. Diaw was pure garbage in ATL, now with Nash on his team all the sudden hes a good player. I think something similar could be said for just about all those players mentioned.</div> That's not fair to Diaw. Didn't he almost win MVP in the Euro Championships in the summer? He was considered the best player on the French team which also had Parker. Diaw wasn't being used well in ATL, but he was far from garbage, looking at his numbers, he was in 5-6 RPG, and 4 APG range if he got the minutes. The change from him is how D'Antoni uses him, and the fact that he actually has good finishers and shooters around him.
I'm going to step outside the Nash boosting for a minute... my opinion on what he beings to this team are well documented on this site. Marion, on the other hand is way underrated and a class-act, which is why he's only now starting to get the recognition he deserves. Like Nash (personally, I thought he was the heart of the Mavs and never got the credit he deserved there), Marion's attention is coming after he was already great. I never try to belittle what Marion means to this team... IMO, the second most valuable Sun, above Amare, and clearly their best defender. j
Nash isn't the only thing this team has, and sometimes he can be a downright setback, but he makes an offense go, and does it with style and flair. But I would really like to see some credit given to his remarkable supporting cast. A bunch of castoffs that were taught to play basketball the right way, and now they win, a lot. A fun story, and a fun group to watch.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Squishface:</div><div class="quote_post">Nash isn't the only thing this team has, and sometimes he can be a downright setback, but he makes an offense go, and does it with style and flair.</div> How is Steve Nash a setback?!?!?!?!?!? He has made the Suns a better team, and each player on the Suns gets better when playing with him.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting theunknown:</div><div class="quote_post">How is Steve Nash a setback?!?!?!?!?!? He has made the Suns a better team, and each player on the Suns gets better when playing with him.</div> Agreed, one hundred percent. I'm speaking of those times, usually around half time and late in the third when an opponent starts streaking, Nash becomes a setback defensively, especially when he hasn't had a breather in a while. The man has no answer for a running team when it comes down to the defensive side of the ball. He gets winded, he gets lazy, and he gives up points. At the same time, I give this man all the credit in the world. He is a unique performer with abilities we rarely see these days.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Squishface:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm speaking of those times, usually around half time and late in the third when an opponent starts streaking, Nash becomes a setback defensively, especially when he hasn't had a breather in a while. The man has no answer for a running team when it comes down to the defensive side of the ball. He gets winded, he gets lazy, and he gives up points. At the same time, I give this man all the credit in the world. He is a unique performer with abilities we rarely see these days.</div> I completely agree with you. I thought you were speaking of in general.He does get tired, i think the Suns should start to look for a solid point guard to give him some breaks throughout the game. But on the other hand, Nash needs to pick his spots of when to take breaks on defense. Even though he gives up some easy buckets, the league isn't known for its defense(unless it's Detroit) and he is needed more on the offensive end.
