The Andrew Bogut development thread

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  1. Schaddy

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    Since the numbers don't show all that Bogut has done so far in his rookie year, I think it's time we have a place to log the great things he does for our team.

    Here's a breakdown of his statistics so far:

    27.9 minutes/game: 9.1 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 2.1 apg, 0.9 bpg, 0.7 spg, 54.2%FG, 61.8%FT

    Those aren't bad numbers. You can see that he's already displaying a good all-around game, and while his FT% is not good, his FG% is fantastic. He's also been improving as the season goes on; in his last 7 games, he's averaging 10.8 ppg, 8.6 rpg, 2.5 apg, 1.2 bpg and 0.9 spg.

    Let's see his statistics projected over 30.2 minutes per game, the average minutes that three other top 10 picks (Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Channing Frye) are playing.

    30.2 minutes/game: 10.0 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 2.4 apg, 1.05 bpg, 0.80 spg

    Not a huge jump, but for a rookie, again, those numbers are solid.

    Now, let's look if he was averaging 34 minutes per game, which is pretty much the norm for good starting centers right now in the NBA.

    34 minutes/game: 11.3 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 3.2 apg, 1.12 bpg, 0.89 spg

    So we see, that if Bogut were getting the type of minutes that a) most top draft picks get and [​IMG] most NBA starters get, he'd be a strong, strong candidate for Rookie of the Year.

    Hopefully this statistical breakdown will help those people who are of the opinion that Bogut is playing like a bust change their tune. And hopefully I'll remember to keep this thread updated by with plenty of anecdotes about Bogut's fantastic play, which usually isn't reflected by his stats.
     
  2. Schaddy

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    At San Antonio on Wednseday, Bogut collected 13 points, 10 boards and a steal and a swat each.

    He now ranks #5 in the NBA in FG% at 54.1%, and is the league's leading rookie rebounder (7.7), yet his FT% continues to slide (59%).
     
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    Bogut was able to exploit a thin Bobcats' frontline tonight, with 15 pts (6/9 FG), 10 reb, 3 ast and 2 blk. He had a sick alley-oop from Mo Williams, showed some crazy athletic ability for a big man. He even hit 3/4 of his free throws. This kid is special, I just can't wait until his game develops more and his minutes increase [​IMG]
     
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    After a double double of 14 and 10 tonight against the Raptors, Bogut's season stats read: 9.4 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 55.1%FG (#3 in NBA), 2.2 apg, 1.00 bpg, 0.79 spg.

    In his last 5 games, including matchups against the Wallace boys andTim Duncan, Bogut is averaging 11.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, 1.3 bpg and 1.0 spg, on 59.5%FGs.

    Looking at Bogut's numbers from the start of January, he's averaging 10.7 ppg, 9.2 rpg and 1.13 bpg on 61.7%FG.

    For my final breakdown tonight, we'll consider this: Bogut is averaging 7.15 shot attempts per game. I'll compare that to the average number of shots being attempted by other young post players who have been recent high draft picks. Chris Bosh (14.65), Chris Kaman (8.38) and Channing Frye (10.77) combine to average 11.26 shot attempts per game. Projecting Bogut's numbers over 11.26 shots per game at his current FG% of 55.1, we arrive at an average of 14.7 points per game. In this way, Bogut is similar to Orlando's outstanding young big man, Dwight Howard: we're not going to fully appreciate how good he is until he gets more shots. Oh well, Bucks fans are plenty happy with what Bogut is giving the team now, and as we see, he's got nowhere to go but way, way up.
     
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    Unfortunately, Bogut isn't getting much exposure over here. I mean, sure our games are usually Buck games but we still only get 1 game a week

    A big question I have is, how has his playmaking translated into the league
     
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    Actually his playmaking has been one of the best parts of his game. He's got a great understanding of where guys are at all times, and he's really good at getting a feed from the post then making a slick pass, either to a cutter or someone waiting on the wing. I've really been impressed with his passing skills, I didn't expect him to be so developed as a playmaker this early.
     
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    The thing I'm most impressed with is how much he's been willing to bang around in the paint.. If the offense wasn't so perimeter oriented and if he were getting more minutes (35+), he easily has enough game to post up 20 & 10..
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting swyftdahoe:</div><div class="quote_post">The thing I'm most impressed with is how much he's been willing to bang around in the paint.. If the offense wasn't so perimeter oriented and if he were getting more minutes (35+), he easily has enough game to post up 20 & 10..</div>


    Right you are, man. I wish we would get him some more touches in the paint, but our best scorers are in the backcourt, and we've also got to keep the Big Cat involved on offense. Eventually, though, Bogut's development will translate to more touches, because we aren't going to be able to ignore him. Even now, with his fantastic FG%, he's showing that he deserves more touches. He's shooting almost 12 percentage points higher than Magloire, and far better than our wings and guards, too. As this season goes on, I think we're going to see Bogut with the ball in his hands more and more. [​IMG]
     
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    After a double/double of 15 and 10 against the Grizzlies, with 5 blocks for good measure, Bogut is proving that he can put up solid numbers against solid players (Pau Gasol, Tim Duncan, etc). His season stats remain 9.3 ppg, 7.9 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.14 bpg and 0.68 spg.
     
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    Bogut gets no publicity, we all talk about Chris Paul. Maybe its because he plays in Milwaukee or isn't a finese guy like Paul.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dtpxcore:</div><div class="quote_post">Bogut gets no publicity, we all talk about Chris Paul. Maybe its because he plays in Milwaukee or isn't a finese guy like Paul.</div>

    [​IMG] Paul's credit is well deserved; he's easily the best rookie, he's going to be a helluva player, and he's doing some pretty special things for his team, so I don't think there's anything wrong with him getting a lion's share of the credit as far as rooks go.

    Bogut doesn't get that much publicity yet for a couple of reasons. First, he's not a dominant player, he's merely a solid one at this point in his career. He also doesn't play a ton of minutes, and he plays for a relatively overlooked team in Milwaukee. I know how much everyone around the country cares about sexy Wisconsin [​IMG] Lastly, Bogut doesn't play a star position. While Shaq, Big Ben and Amare are stars at center, and deservedly so, it's tougher for a player to be a star at the 5. Bogut will get the recogntion and hype later, but for now he doesn't deserve a ton of publicity; he's young, developing, and about as obscure as a #1 pick can possibly get, but that's fine, because there's little pressure on him, and he's using the time he's spending out of the limelight to mature into a very solid player.
     
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    I love Bogut's game...he's smart and rebounds well and is a nice scorer around the basket...I think him, Redd, Ford and Simmons are going to be a nice core if they stay healthy and stay together...While Paul is leaps and bounds ahead of the rookie class, Bogut is surely no slouch...his impact on a rejuvenated Bucks squad cannot be underestimated...
     

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