Chuck Hayes

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  1. ownage

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    Hey how about this guy. From seeing his game against the Bulls, it seems he can become a solid contributer for the rockets. He had 12pts, 13 rebs, 2 blks and stl. Pretty solid off the bench if you ask me. What do yous guys think? Should we keep this guy? Will he be a good contributer for the rockets in the future?
     
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    well you never know if it was just some freak game or something, but I think he'll be a good spark off the bench
     
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    I didn't watch the game, but from the numbers, he did great. The 13 rebs are crazy. This number is not easy even for a starter center. For sure Rockets should keep him if he keeps playing so well.
     
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    Definitely a keeper. Hayes is very undersized but his knack for rebounding impressed me last night. He seemed to always be at the right spot and his boxing out is solid. If we use him the right way, I can see him becoming a 6/7 guy off the bench for us.
     
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    I actually think it was a freak game just because the Bull are undersized at the gaurd position and undersized and the front court position. Harrington is a vey snall PF. He is a great rebounder, but we will see in the next game.
     
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    it's what typically happens when a new guy comes in.. teams don't have scouting reports on him and don't know what to expect. we won't know if he'll be a permanent guy for the rockets until a few more games and teams will know how to play him.
     
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    Wow, he still bring good stats off the bench so far.

    Today, v.s. the Bucks, he had 7pts (3-4 shooting/ 1-1 ft) , 12 rebs, and 1 ast off the bench, in just 20 mins. of playing time!!

    He seems to be capable of getting 10-13 rebs in 20-30 mins of playing time ----> good, even for a star!
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ownage:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow, he still bring good stats off the bench so far.

    Today, v.s. the Bucks, he had 7pts (3-4 shooting/ 1-1 ft) , 12 rebs, and 1 ast off the bench, in just 20 mins. of playing time!!

    He seems to be capable of getting 10-13 rebs in 20-30 mins of playing time ----> good, even for a star!</div>

    Yep. Totally agree with you. He is a guy Rockets wanna keep for sure. [​IMG] The thing is, what happened to Head recently? He played so bad.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Yep. Totally agree with you. He is a guy Rockets wanna keep for sure. The thing is, what happened to Head recently? He played so bad.</div>
    Head's probably in just a shooting slump. Before when he would score a bunch of points, many of them were off three pointers, but now it just seems his shot is off. No big deal. The thing I'm most concerned about is his mentality. With his quickness and speed, he's probably the fastest player we have on the team next to Alston. Thus, I think it would benefit us more if he cuts more and drives into the paint more.
     
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    Three games in a row Hayes has impressed me. He has great hands and a nose for the ball. He seems to make all the right rotations on defense. It seems like has JVG's system figured out in less than 3 games. Either he's a basketball genius, or Stromile Swift is a basketball doofus.

    I mean, he's like the freakin' anti-Swift. When Swift comes back, JVG needs to be careful not to let them get on the court together. If they come into physical contact, the universe might explode or something.
     
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    Or maybe they will mutate into a super PF where both have each others skills and retain there own.
    Chuck hayes would have the ability to fly
    while swift can finally learn this system
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Or maybe they will mutate into a super PF where both have each others skills and retain there own.
    Chuck hayes would have the ability to fly
    while swift can finally learn this system</div>
    LOL. Sorry but you just can't teach intelligence in Swift's case. So far Chuck Hayes has shown that the college game has taught him a lot and its obvious with his recent productions compared to Swifts. He actually knows how to box out, knows the fundamentals, and can get acquainted with systems pretty well. The only problem I see with Hayes is his height. However, that can easily be remedied if he works on his jumper and consistently boxes out the biggermen, sort of like Kenny Thomas.
     
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    Hayes has something that you can't teach....He wants the ball more than anyone else on the court and he does'nt wait for it to come his way, he goes after it!!Next time he's in a game watch HIM, not the guy with the ball but watch how he gets position and boxes out. Another thing that impresses me is the timing on his jump, he may not get up as high as Stro but he times his jumps perfectly. HE IS A DEFINITE KEEPER!!![​IMG]
     
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    Chuck Hayes contributed well to TMac's high-scoring game. Eventhough he was undersized at the PF spot he seems to position himself well. Grabbing loose balls especially defensive rebounds was improved noticeably since Hayes was given ample of playing time. His offensive rebounds also resulted baskets for TMac and his defensive game is effective. Giving second chance points was the number one cause why the Rockets lose a lot of games especially those close ones and if they continue to minimize it, they'll gonna get back on the right track. Chuck Hayes deserves to have the Rockets 15th spot. That means when everyone gets healthy Lucas is expendable although he's a hardworking kid. I hate to see him go. Maybe the Rockets should release Moochie besides they would surely not going to excercise their team options on his 06-07 season contract.
     
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    Shouldn't Lucas's ten-day contract be up around now? Has he been re-signed, or will he be let go?

    With Hayes, I love the fact that so far, he's brought the same things to the team. Sometimes, rookies play well for the first few games but Hayes looks like he could give us 8+ rebounds every nigght and some stellar defense. I think he should definitely take Baxter's minutes and Swift's as well when he comes back.
     
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    Something real important was said. C.Hayes knows how to BOX OUT when the ball is in the air, and he goes and gets it.
    Baxter can to, but is not the quickest or highest jumper.

    Stro is usually behind someone watching the flight of the ball.

    Bad for Stro, just when he was showing the hustle to produce, he goes out 2 wks with pink eye. The injuries are getting more unique.
     
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    the thing with lonny baxter and chuck hayes.. is they don't rely on athleticism to get their rebounds. they get their boards by working harder than their opponents, by paying attention to the play and to who they're supposed to box out. stromile has always relied on his athletic ability to jump over people for rebounds, just as yao learned to use his height. it's nice to see 2 guys (3, if you include bowen) who will dive for a loose ball or aggressively box out to grab that important rebound.
     
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    If Hayes can maintain the level of play of his last 3 games, I honestly think he should be starting ahead of Juwan. His offensive rebounding and ability to finish close to the basket would be more useful than Howard's scoring. And defensively, he's much better as well.

    Van Gundy, on Chuck Hayes:

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting "Houston Chronicle":</div><div class="quote_post">
    "The ball doesn't fumble out of his hands," Van Gundy said. "It's not going to be popped away. Contact is not going to make him stumble and drop it.

    "He's rebounded on every level he's played. To come from the NBDL to a rotation and help you win is quite a compliment to his intensity, attention to detail and his basketball IQ."
    </div>

    Van Gundy rarely is that positive about a player. Hopefully, he sticks with him in the regular rotation, even when Yao and Stro come back.
     
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    i can see hayes in the starting lineup when Yao comes back, but until then I think they will definitely need Howard's low-post scoring. Maybe start them together and have Mutombo come off the bench?
     
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    This kid just amazes me i read that he was 6'5" and he plays pf wow. and umm does he jump real high or real strong or how does he rebound with the big guyz
     

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