Warriors vs. Lakers @ L.A., Jan. 27, 7:30PM FSN

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  1. CohanHater

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    gotta play a strong 4th. The bench is giving the starters some good rest. Let's see if these kids teach the grown ups how to close out a game.
     
  2. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    We need execution, good decision making on both ends of the floor. It helps to have the energy and reaction time of these young guys. Pietrus, Ellis, Andris Biedrins are super quick.
     
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    Time to start attacking the hoop again. Settling for too many jumpers as usual
     
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    Ugh... Heartbreaking endings again and again...
     
  5. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting CohanHater:</div><div class="quote_post">Time to start attacking the hoop again. Settling for too many jumpers as usual</div>
    Won't matter anyway, look at how many calls the Lakers are getting. Unbelievably unbalanced and inconsistent refereeing.

    Also, the Warriors aren't moving the ball again. That final 7 seconds we had Baron was just overdribbling and found nothing. Meanwhile Kobe scored that easy dunk on Foyle/Murphy moving off the ball, cutting to the hoop. Why can't we do that? Our players just don't know how to move, especially when they have an opportunity to drive or cut to the basket wide open. Several times Pietrus or Ellis had an opportunity to drive but they waited and passed up. Also, we're missing free throws...

    Bottom line: I just think this ball club won't go anywhere unless we get a real man in the middle, we start boxing out and setting more screens and moving more and just doing the basics, the big fundamentals. We just can't have static player movement and we can't have a center that tip toes for rebounds and bats it to the other team. The only thing he knows how to do is blocks shots and doesn't know any other nuances of the game. In fact, when was the last time he won a tip off or a jump ball? So besides shotblocking, we got a backup center that's a step too slow, can't jump, is soft, gives up too much position in the post, makes simple offensive plays difficult, and doesn't know how to set a good pick or a screen.

    The other guy I think ruins it is Troy Murphy. Too many times he looks for his own offense and doesn't get it done. Then he also doesn't box out for other guys and he's out of position for everything on defense. He's just one of those players that constantly needs bailing out and I think that's why Foyle/Ike or whoever, is out of position as well. I'm glad Murphy finally took the fouls rather than giving up the easy play. But I think he should have fouled Lamar Odom and never should have given him a dunk. But anyway, foul trouble... we should have never been in foul trouble in the first place. These refs suck so bad and it's no suprise the lakers win with Phantom calls (44 free throw attempts to our 28.. bahh). The Warriors played a decent game for the most part with limited staff on hand and bullsht calls.
     
  6. Run BJM

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    Unbelievable, 19 FTs for the Lakers in the fourth and one for the Warriors. Thats just crazy, the refs gave the game to the Lakers. Someone in the NBA really needs to step up and call these refs out. George Karl complained about it earlier this season and was suspended for a few games. I'm just praying that theres some inconsistency like that in a playoff game so that the media can hound Stern to change it. I'm just amazed that the refs could give one team such a huge advantage. Its sickening.
     
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    The game was rigged.
     
  8. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    The game had to be. I've never seen so many lopsided calls. It wasn't fair at all. Those three boneheads couldn't even agree on what was a foul or a no call anymore. Just sickening. Sure, there were some bad calls going both ways, but look at down the stretch when it mattered. 44 to 28 foul attempts. It's not like we didn't drive the ball in traffic.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">Unbelievable, 19 FTs for the Lakers in the fourth and one for the Warriors. Thats just crazy, the refs gave the game to the Lakers. Someone in the NBA really needs to step up and call these refs out. George Karl complained about it earlier this season and was suspended for a few games. I'm just praying that theres some inconsistency like that in a playoff game so that the media can hound Stern to change it. I'm just amazed that the refs could give one team such a huge advantage. Its sickening.</div>
    It's not gonna happen man, they got star power with the lake show, kobe, the laker organization, phil, jack nicholson. Can't beat em man, they're toying with the W's. I know the lakers think they badass, but really they're not.
     
  10. Run BJM

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    Totally agreed, the fouls werew huge in this game. Even the one play where Baron got called ofr an offensive foul on Mihm (that was the worst call I've ever seen BTW). If he goes to the line and makes just one that dramatically alters the game, even if he misses both that also dramatically alters the game because thats one more foul for Baron later on and one less for Mihm. Total bullshit.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">It's not gonna happen man, they got star power with the lake show, kobe, the laker organization, phil, jack nicholson. Can't beat em man, they're toying with the W's. I know the lakers think they badass, but really they're not.</div>
    I'm just hoping that in the 7th game of a close playoff series one team gets screwed and the coach just goes off on the NBA afterwards.
     
  12. Warriorsfan

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    i cant take it anymore, too many heartbreaking losses, im gonna stop watching warriors for a while.
     
  13. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    So how many benjamins do you think the game officials got on the side, tonight? In a game where we reasonably shot free throws pretty well (except for Dunleavy's two misses in a row), we lost by one point... one point. It's like the Utah Jazz vs. Lakers game all over again where they gave the game to the Lakers even though the Jazz should have won. I wonder if it's the same set of refs controlling the game.

    Anyway, I think I'm done. Not much you can do. I don't want to bitch too much as I probably already have.

    Feel free to rant in this thread.
     
  14. Run BJM

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Feel free to rant in this thread.</div>
    I'm really tempted to rant in the Lakers' forum but its not their fault. They're just fans. Its just so frustrating and theres no way to deal with it.
     
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    The refs SUCKED. They didn't even know how many fouls the teams had in OT.
     
  16. Custodianrules2

    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Run BJM:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm really tempted to rant in the Lakers' forum but its not their fault. They're just fans. Its just so frustrating and theres no way to deal with it.</div>
    Yeah, it's better to keep it here and within one thread with some context and not several one or two post only threads ranting about how they're giving up on the season because of this really bad streak of games.

    As long as we're not violating any site rules or causing personal arguments, we're here to share our frustrations. Plus we know why there is a bad taste in our mouths. It was this game. Very winnable, we did everything we possibly could, but we got shafted big time IMO by three officials who couldn't call anything consistently. Injuries haven't helped.

    As Warrior fans we can relate to this feeling of we was being robbed! Clippers and Dallas we just shot ourselves in the foot by not hitting free throws and jacking up more threes. This time we had an excuse for wanting to take threes. Anytime we went to the hole, the Lakers would body up and there would either be a charge or a no-call. Can't get anything if they just slam into you for defense. On the other side of the floor it's a blocking foul on us or softy touch foul. Anyway, I still see the same Warriors 1 on 5 type of game. We need more talent badly and long time fans know what we're missing and injuries + rawness + small lineups haven't helped us any.
     
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    While it was frustrating, I really enjoyed watching Ellis. Great athleticism, speed, and good defense. He will most definately be one of the top stealers in the future. With more consistent minutes he will be very good off the bench. At times he always looked to pass even when he had an open lane. Just some rookie nervousness, it'll wear off with some more pt.
     
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    Though the ending wasn't what a team would want, and though the free throws were favored to the Lakers, I agree with Anime, it was a fun game to watch.

    The defense was very good for the Warriors, especially on the perimeter. I loved how Baron, Pietrus, and Ellis played together on defense. They feed of each other's energy so well. The three do kind of take a lot of three point attempts, something which may not be wanted, because those three each have the ability to take it to the rim off the dribble. But it's stuff that could be adjusted. Ellis is a good defender, he got two steals and six rebounds this game, that is good stats and production. For never really playing together with this group of players, I think they played very very well and showed a lot of promise. I think if they had been given good minutes before hand and played more together, I think that could have helped. The Warriors without Jason Richardson and Mike Dunleavy put this team back in the game, played the best defense all quarter in the third, and just came up short of a victory against the Lakers on the road. I guess that would be a moral victory for this team.

    Oh and I want to see Biedrins use his butt more on the rebounds. It's something that is necessary. And Diogu did look a bit small last night, especially after being blocked by Devan George. And it's nice to see Zarko get minutes, because like on many cases he did produce. A lot of fouls too though, heh.

    Though Pietrus and Ellis don't need any extra confidence. It was good to see them get more experience playing together, especially for today's game. Will Dunleavy be back today? I think we need to recontact Aaron Miles or someone if not.
     
  19. Run BJM

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    Agreed Clif, it was a fun game to watch. Its just dissapointing that we already had a huge dissadvantage with J-Rich and Dunleavy out, we still otuplayed the Lakers but the refs gave the game away. Its just unfair, the Warriors worked their asses off and the Lakers were handed the game.

    Monta looks like a total stud, hes got A.I. defense and Jason Kidd rebounding. From the few times I've seen him go to the rack this season hes been pretty unsuccessful, thats probably why hes hesitant. Also, last night he didn't want to make any mistakes in a close game which is probably why he kept passing up possible drive opportunities early in the shot clock. Once he gets some more strength and experience he'll probably be better around the rim. His passing is better than I expected as well, hes had some nice passes to Zarko and J-Rich this year.
     
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    i hate those refs, they keep calling charging fouls on us, thats the whole reason we lost, and they favor the lakers [​IMG]. so not fair. If fisher didnt foul out because of that charge at the end we culd have won.
     

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