Warriors vs. Spurs @ Oakland, Feb. 2, 7:30PM FSN

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It was a tie game with like 2:45 left, then...

Baron gets all backboard on an early, terrible choice from three, then Fish gets a charge...

Meanwhile, San Antonio just scores.

Champions / not Champions

 

We had 10 seconds... So, why in the world Fisher just let it go like we have 0.4 second left?

 

Great effort, but fell short again. Murphy really destroyed Duncan inside. We lost the game because Pietrus blew like 3 layups.

 

We shoot two terrible, rushed threes instead of one decent look. And yeah, Fish caught that and just threw it up WTF.

 

we are the losers once again!!

 

I really don't get it. I am sure we made some sort of plan for the last shot, we had 10 seconds left, and last shot really should come out with at most 3 seconds left, instead of about 30 fts 3 pts with defender jumping toward you. And, I don't think Monty's plan was "Let's make a 3 pts and give Spurs a last chance". Was that an momentary insanity or open rebellion against Monty? Either way, nice effort and not so satisfying ending again...

 

The only thing I can think is that in the huddle they said "let's shoot early so if we miss we'll get another chance."

I don't agree with that philosophy, but it's possible that was their plan.

However, if that was their plan, it was completely botched because Fish's three was a horrible selection -- off balance, poor line of sight and defended well.

I hope you all realize the Warriors were in the driver's seat to beat the defending champs tonight.

They played so well. It's hard to say "nice effort" becuase frankly if I were a player on the W's that wouldn't be good enough for me. If I were on the bench entering the 4th quarter I would have looked up at the scoreboard and yelled at my teammates "We're better than they are! We better win this f**ing game!"

The commentators make it sound like a consolation prize the the W's gave the Spurs a run for the money. Personally this was just as disappointing as the Sonics game last night, for me.

So basically I'm throwing stuff at the wall right now in-between listing stuff on ebay.

 

Are we going to lay this one on Monty too? I'm sure his plan was to jack up a desperation 3 by Fisher. Its total lack of trust in one's teammates. Fisher if he had any trust would have passed it out. Pietrus, great rebound, but then had he looked in the corner, there was Dunleavy standing open, but instead he chooses to jack up the 3.

Doug Collins is good. He said down the stretch, for the Warriors its going to come down to these 3 things (I think):

1. Shot selection;
2. Taking care of the ball; and
3. Getting some stops (or maybe it was rebounding).

Well the Warriors flunked all 3. Sad, really sad. D was pretty darn good during the 2nd half I got to see. Shot selection was good at times and horrible down the stretch.

Where was the penetration that worked so well before the end of the game? Nice cuts by Dunleavy and penetration by Davis.

Murphy is what he is, a nice jump shooter and rebounder when his shot is on. He would be awesome, an All-Star, with a team like the Spurs. How good would he look taking that shot instead of Rasho/Marks? Why the Warriors run the pick and roll with Biedris/Foyle instead of Murphy is beyond me, maybe that's coaching. The closer I look at Murphy the better he is. He's a pretty good fundamental player who does not make stupid mistakes. Yes his shot is off sometimes, and yes his D is not Ben Wallace but he's out there hustling and rebounding in traffic. If there is an untouchable, its him. And I think Mully knows that. He is not as easy to replace as you think.

Ike and Monte are keepers.

I see a lot of hope. Forget this year, let's look beyond that and see the big picture.

Baron and that 3 at the 2 min mark? Total ego driven shot. Awful.

Dunleavy, yes now that's why he was the 3rd pick overall. Give him the ball cutting. Love that 1 on 1 with Marks, total determination, no give up. If only he were a better rebounder. He's a keeper.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Murphy is what he is... If there is an untouchable, its him.</div>

I completely disagree. While I personally feel Murphy has played great this and every year, and has continued to add to his game and stay consistent, he is actually, IMO, one of the more moveable pieces on the team, because the Warriors have some depth at power forward with Ike, Zarko and even Biedrins and he has trade value. Further, the Warriors need some power inside and Murphy (despite his numbers) really doesn't provide that. The Warriors will never be able to defend against the better teams until the upgrade at the bigs -- perhaps they can trade Troy for a good center, start the center and slide Ike to the 4.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Baron and that 3 at the 2 min mark? Total ego driven shot. Awful.</div>

I completely agree. As much as I defend Baron, that was the epitome of what his problem has been. It was like all of us were saying "okay now Baron, we've got this game, whatever you do just don't jack up a three now, okay, here we go... wait, no! no don't shoot the thre... DAMN!!!!!"

I am bafled by that play.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Ike and Monte are keepers.</div>

I partially disagree. Ike is a keeper. Monty? Expendable. He seems to be a good X and O guy but will he ever be able to grab the reins of the carriage and say "This is my muthafu**ing house?" If not, he will continue to be used by, defied by, and questioned by his players.

I hope he pans out but as of now I'm not sold.


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">I see a lot of hope. Forget this year, let's look beyond that and see the big picture.</div>

I completely agree! Go Warriors


<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy, yes now that's why he was the 3rd pick overall. Give him the ball cutting. Love that 1 on 1 with Marks, total determination, no give up. If only he were a better rebounder. He's a keeper.</div>

I completely agree. Dunleavy has really stayed positive in the face of criticism and has managed to really produce of late. He's a good fit, as long as he and Baron get on the same page.

 

I hope Pietrus in the offseason works on his fundamentals more. He blew by Bruce Bowen like nothing twice but can't damn drop in the layup. That's just sad, wasted points and opportunities in hard work. Ginobili got away with elbowing Foyle in the nose, that was a costly 3 point play.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">I completely disagree. While I personally feel Murphy has played great this and every year, and has continued to add to his game and stay consistent, he is actually, IMO, one of the more moveable pieces on the team, because the Warriors have some depth at power forward with Ike, Zarko and even Biedrins and he has trade value. Further, the Warriors need some power inside and Murphy (despite his numbers) really doesn't provide that. The Warriors will never be able to defend against the better teams until the upgrade at the bigs -- perhaps they can trade Troy for a good center, start the center and slide Ike to the 4..</div>

Could they ever be as consistent as Troy is? He's usually good for 16 and 9 every night. Troy can hit 80% from the FT line, I can only picture Ike matching that. He's also and inside and outside threat, unlike Biedrins and Zarko, who are basically only either inside or out.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">I partially disagree. Ike is a keeper. Monty? Expendable. He seems to be a good X and O guy but will he ever be able to grab the reins of the carriage and say "This is my muthafu**ing house?" If not, he will continue to be used by, defied by, and questioned by his players..</div>

I think he's referring to Monte Ellis

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">
I partially disagree. Ike is a keeper. Monty? Expendable. He seems to be a good X and O guy but will he ever be able to grab the reins of the carriage and say "This is my muthafu**ing house?" If not, he will continue to be used by, defied by, and questioned by his players.

I hope he pans out but as of now I'm not sold.</div>

You're basing this off of very limited PT for Montay. The guy is a high school kid. Give him a chance to show why he was drafted out of high school.

 

Heh -- I thought he was talking about Monty Montgomery.

As far as M O N T A, heck just look at my profile! Monta Ellis and Ike Diogu are my 2 favorite players!

 

P.S. Monta Ellis is awesome, did you see him elevate over Theo ratliff the other night? The kid has bigger hops than Spud Webb and is probably the best or second best perimiter shooter on the team.

Plus he's probably one of the quickest players in the NBA.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Are we going to lay this one on Monty too? I'm sure his plan was to jack up a desperation 3 by Fisher. Its total lack of trust in one's teammates. Fisher if he had any trust would have passed it out. Pietrus, great rebound, but then had he looked in the corner, there was Dunleavy standing open, but instead he chooses to jack up the 3.

Doug Collins is good. He said down the stretch, for the Warriors its going to come down to these 3 things (I think):

1. Shot selection;
2. Taking care of the ball; and
3. Getting some stops (or maybe it was rebounding).

Well the Warriors flunked all 3. Sad, really sad. D was pretty darn good during the 2nd half I got to see. Shot selection was good at times and horrible down the stretch.

Where was the penetration that worked so well before the end of the game? Nice cuts by Dunleavy and penetration by Davis.

Murphy is what he is, a nice jump shooter and rebounder when his shot is on. He would be awesome, an All-Star, with a team like the Spurs. How good would he look taking that shot instead of Rasho/Marks? Why the Warriors run the pick and roll with Biedris/Foyle instead of Murphy is beyond me, maybe that's coaching. The closer I look at Murphy the better he is. He's a pretty good fundamental player who does not make stupid mistakes. Yes his shot is off sometimes, and yes his D is not Ben Wallace but he's out there hustling and rebounding in traffic. If there is an untouchable, its him. And I think Mully knows that. He is not as easy to replace as you think.

Ike and Monte are keepers.

I see a lot of hope. Forget this year, let's look beyond that and see the big picture.

Baron and that 3 at the 2 min mark? Total ego driven shot. Awful.

Dunleavy, yes now that's why he was the 3rd pick overall. Give him the ball cutting. Love that 1 on 1 with Marks, total determination, no give up. If only he were a better rebounder. He's a keeper.</div>

Geez, who's laying last play on Monty? We were saying how awful last shot was and there was no way for Monty to plan like that.

At the last quarter, Spurs (or any other team) won't ally penetration like first 3 quarters. That's why we have been struggling at 4th quarter, because we do not have a post up player to set up in and out game or great shooters to make outside jumper at last mins.

Murphy would be nice with strong and physical center. That's why his weakness was covered with Dampier. But, without that kind of center, Murphy's weakness is really exposed, and our middle defense is wide open for other players to lay up the ball at will. In order to solve the problem we either have to acquire Dampier like center or move Murphy for physical power forward. While, I am not down on Murphy like many fans, getting physical PF is so much easier than getting a center, so if we ever plan to solve interior defense, Murphy may need to be sacrificed.

Both Ike and Monta looks promising. Also, Biedrins are getting better and better. Monty should really think about replacing Foyle to Biedrins.

Regardless of what happens or whatever the circumstance may be, if we do not make PO this year, it will be a gigantic let down for fans. The biggest problem is that our salary situation is really bad, unless we dump our salaries fast, we may not be able to keep our players with rookie contracts.

That was a bad 3 pts by Davis.

Dunleavy had very nice game. But, wake me up when he actually play consistantly like tonight, instead of showing this type of game in every 3 games. Also, Dunleavy really needs to shup up about taking a shot at his teammates, no matter how right or wrong about what he says. It has been at least 3 times in this season, when Dunleavy used the media to take a shot at Davis and other players, last one being after Sonics game. Those matters should be discussed inside the team, not through media...

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">P.S. Monta Ellis is awesome, did you see him elevate over Theo ratliff the other night? The kid has bigger hops than Spud Webb and is probably the best or second best perimiter shooter on the team.

Plus he's probably one of the quickest players in the NBA.</div>

Dude do you realize Spudd Webb is 5'7 and Monta Ellis is 6'3?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting openglfx:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude do you realize Spudd Webb is 5'7 and Monta Ellis is 6'3?</div>

Dude yes I do.

The post is about their jumping ability, not their height.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AlleyOop:</div><div class="quote_post">Heh -- I thought he was talking about Monty Montgomery.

As far as M O N T A, heck just look at my profile! Monta Ellis and Ike Diogu are my 2 favorite players! </div>

I'm a retard.

 

The last shot Fisher took, was definitely a "shoot first and play D" shot. Unfortunately the tying 3, was a 2 because Fish has his foot on the line. Anyway, the W's shouldn't have been in that position if it wasn't for the five turnovers in the last 7 minutes of the game. You can't win, especially against a REAL team if you can't take care of the ball.

Pietrus wasn't able to slow his game down. He was able to blow by people, but just couldn't make any finesse moves. I counted 2 plays where he just went right by Bowen but couldn't finish or draw the foul.

Disappointing lost, yet alot better then a 24 point blowout. BD isn't garnering any respect, I hope he and JRich can turn the ship around after the all-star break. I guess, we won't be rooting for JRich in Houston this year.