I am feeling 76er rookies Louis Williams/Shavlik Randolph

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  1. Super_Sixer_Fan

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    When the 76ers drafted Guard Louis Williams, he has sounded, like Le-hype. Okay not maybe, but anytime you win the Heisman Trophy of the year award (Not College Football, HS Basketball player of the year), it obviously meant something. I didn’t see that something.

    The 76ers signed Forward Shavlik Randolph, MO cheeks, is one of the worse coaches in the NBA when it comes to developing young players. A good example, of why we missed these guys are this. In the Pre-season Louis Williams got quite a bit of time (More like 1 minute, DAMN YOU CHEEKS).

    Shavlik Never touched the floor (Okay so he was injured.) In the regular season we go, Shavlik was injured for some part (9-17 games I believe) And hardly got time after-wards. It was a blowout half, by Milwaukee, that allowed Shavy to be in the game. He changed the flow, with his seemingly dominate plays. He always got the boards, he always attempted a shot when he could. He played Defense, he did all the little things.

    Now your asking what about Louis Williams? I for one, wrote what I know believe, was an absurd article, defending Louis Williams on his attempts of taking Allen Iverson’s spot. That’s how loyal a fan I been to Louis Williams, the kid, seemingly has a Super-star like name, and after his outings, has the look of a star.

    The Injury to Allen Iverson (2-2), turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Matt Barnes got minutes and looked well, Shavlik hustled against Detroit. There were times, when Ollie would knock down that 18 footer. We were sharing the ball, on the offensive end of the court. Things looked so much better without Allen Iverson. But looks could be deceiving.

    Louis Williams took the oppurinity to rise and step up. His first moment, came against the Orlando Magic, he made a wide-open lay up, and hit a jumper. He also had 3 assists. A better defining moment, came against the Detroit Pistons, where with some help from the 76ers, shut down Chanucey Billups, and drew several fouls, and seemed to be the one to carry us to a ALMOST-surprise victory over the so called NBA champs! In the 4 games without Iverson, Louis Williams Nunbers (He played limited minutes, and I think Ollie needs an Amplifer) Looked something like this: 4.8 PPG 3.0 APG 2.1 RPG, such an all-around game by a PG, in such limited minutes, just shows you his potential. This is one of the many reasons, why MO must go.


    The Bench could look so much better, I bet this article of mine could too. But if one thing, can’t look better it’s Louis Williams.

    I am behind him, all the way, and you can be rest-assured, I will protest, until he gets LEGIT minutes like he deserves.
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  2. Smitty

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    A to the freaking MEN. You and me both man. [​IMG]

    I loved that post haha.
     
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    Well, Amen to you, Mr.Freak, Without you, I wouldn't have paid THAT much attention to Louis Williams' Play, Mr.Reggie Brown too, is looking like a stud.
     
  4. Really Lost One

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    [​IMG] i really dont agree with anything you just said. i also dont feel like writing a huge reply right now, so for now im just going to say it plain and simple, mo cheeks being fired? no way. who else are we going to bring in? and how will that effect players like salmons, who has finally gotten in a groove. you want to lose that by giving him his what, fourth coach of his career? the only way for us to really win is to follow one game plan to avoid confusion to the youngsters and veterans alike. we dont need any more changes unless it drastically effects our team, because we cant afford to lose any more team chemistry

    although i do agree that louis and shav need more PT, a coaching change isnt necassary and will only disrupt our teams little chemistry that we have
     
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    This 'team' is going no where, and IF bk wants to win NOW and in the FUTURE, He'd concentrate on the development of Louis Williams. If Mo refuses to give Louis Williams time, then he should be sent to the D-League.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">This 'team' is going no where, and IF bk wants to win NOW and in the FUTURE, He'd concentrate on the development of Louis Williams. If Mo refuses to give Louis Williams time, then he should be sent to the D-League.</div>
    if BK wants to win now, he has to let AI get most of the time. i am a big fan of louis as well, dont get me wrong, but he is too young and will probably be very inconsistent if given too much time. i agree that louis should see some time, like 5-8 mpg, but nothing more. remember. he is a kid from high school, and something as easy as getting dunked on can hurt his self confidence like crazy. also, its pretty clear to me that BK doesnt care much for our future since he always gives away our draft picks and signs players to long term all the time
     
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    Louis Williams a star in the making? He shut down Chauncey Billups? [​IMG]

    Yeah... right.

    As for firing Mo, that isn't happening. He is our fourth coach in the past three seasons... and we're not going to add him to the not-working-for-us-but-we're-still-paying-him list.

    It's not happening. If you fire Mo, you have to trade Allen and Chris Webber.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting BigMo763:</div><div class="quote_post">It's not happening. If you fire Mo, you have to trade Allen and Chris Webber.</div>
    exactly. i would welcome that, but as we all know, webber cant be traded and BK is AI's bitch
     
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    Yes Louis Williams is a star in the making he has been very productive (yes NBA wise, that training with AI is finally paying off) in his little time. I am campaigning for minutes for the youngster. We might as well, add him to the list. It would not affect anything. Seriously, the NYK spend away, we should too. Do whatever it takes to win. And to develop my man,Louis Williams. On a side note, Epiphanny Prince.......She should be a WNBA star.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Super_Sixer_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post"> Seriously, the NYK spend away, we should too. Do whatever it takes to win.</div>
    yeah, except they are in the big market of NYC. we are in philly..................
    the knicks spent a lot of money to "win", look where they are at now
     
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    Isiah Thomas is just every bit a incompetent as BK if we could get Ed Snider to wake up, and put Tony Dileo in the GM seating, or somebody. (Perferably Tony, he has alot of knowledge of the game, and a good eye for talent). I'd be a very very happy 76ers fan.
     
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    Oh Please....I'm sure Louis Williams is not receiving the "minutes that he deserves according to you" because of many reasons you and I and 99 percent of the people on this board don't know. He might have producted well in the two or three games AI was absent, but how many minutes did he play? Sure he might have played 20 some minutes for 2 or 3 games, how do you know he can consistently produce for 82 games playing 43 minutes if he has to replace AI?

    We didn't bring him here to make a impact the first year, because we know he can't, or contribute VERY little(like against the Pistons). He evens knows that. We brought him here for the future.

    There are tons of things you have no idea about him that I'm sure Billy King, Maurice Cheeks, and the Sixers staff knows.
     
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    I still don't see how Louis Williams is a star in the making... he still has a LONG way to go in order to be even a borderline star player. I just can't see it happening, but if he's still in a Sixers uniform, I hope he proves me wrong.

    Louis just doesn't seem to have the tools necessary to become a star player in this league. We will all get a much better look at him when he gets more than 15 minutes in two or three straight games. Wait till he even cracks the rotation...

    There is a reason he went in the second round... even when he was the high school player of the year.
     
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    yeah. i agree with big mo. i dont necessarly think he is going to be a star plyer. he certainly has the potential to be, but i think he will turn into a solid scoring guard that will dish out assists from time to time
     
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    Mo Cheeks being fired is the worst move we can do right now. Sure we want Louis Williams and Shavlik Randolph to play more, but there is a reason their not playing the big minutes. Mo Cheeks obviously has not been that impressed with them during practice so he is not playing them. It is not because he doesnt like rookies, that's just the truth. These guys are still developing.
     
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    Really as for Louis, look who you got in front of him: Iverson, Salmons and Ollie..so he's not gonna get much play anyway.
     
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    If LW didnt enter the nba draft and went to college instead, i bet he would have come out of college in a couple years being at least a lottery pick. But instead he gets to practice with AI instead of other college freshmen, and his game will pick up alot quicker. I would not be surprised at all if LW became an all star someday. He definately does have the tools to become a star, he just has to put it all together and use them.
     
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    He wouldnt be a lottery pick because of his size. He can't shoot as well as AI and wouldnt have been as good as AI was at GTown. He could have been a 14-18 pick though.

    He has ALOT to still learn, he was abused by Billups on defense. He could be a good solid player, but not for another 2-4 years.
     
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    I still do not see all these "tools" that he has to become an All-Star in this league... it is completely mind-boggling.
     
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    he can handle the ball pretty well, and hes a natural scorer. IMO if he learns from the veterens on the team he can start becoming a great player.
     

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