channing frye dissapoints me

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    from 52% FG to 49%, this is sad he struggled lately, hes not as aggressive driving to the basket, he passed away wide open shots... hes hitting the rookie wall someone on the team better talk to him about it
     
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    I've been the biggest Channing Fyre doubter in the world, ever since he was drafted...lol you guys remember how pissed I was at draft day?

    Well, regardless of this "slump" He's better than most rookies..and I'm impressed...by his confidence.

    Lets look at what he can give this team.

    -Open mid range shots
    -Quicker than most big men
    -agile for his size
    -Shows some post moves
    -Can score very quickly
    -Shows potential to becoming a good rebounding

    Lets check out what he can work on to become a great great player some day

    -getting more physical in the post
    -relying on his post game more than his jumpshot, he needs a 2nd weapon besides his shooting
    -Has the body to be a great help defender, so he should utilize his quickness and body into blocking shots and contesting shots. Not giving up on defense and fouling the guy.
    -Can become a better rebounder


    Marbury/Fyre has been perfect for each other, because they're good half court players.

    So this is why Fyre has looked lost, he can't create his own shot without Marbury creating it for him, so its difficult.

    But Isiah proved me wrong, Channing Fyre isn't a bust at all.

    But I just hope someday, he gets to a Pau Gasol level (his full potential in my opinion) cause we need something like that.

    Badly.
     
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    yea basically marbury creats that mid range j for frye, channing gives marbury a pick and marbury drives to the hoop, left channing wide open.... then marbury gives it to him, he takes it and makes it
     
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    Channing just hit a rookie wall. It's bound to happen to most rookies. A college season isn't even half as long as an NBA season, so he's just adjusting to the NBA life. With Larry Brown very critical of him and not playing him consistent minutes, it's unsurprising Frye has struggled. He has a great work ethic, so I know he'll get over the slump, but you shouldn’t be disappointed in a rookie for going through an imminent stretch where he struggles.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">I've been the biggest Channing Fyre doubter in the world, ever since he was drafted...lol you guys remember how pissed I was at draft day?

    Well, regardless of this "slump" He's better than most rookies..and I'm impressed...by his confidence.

    Lets look at what he can give this team.

    -Open mid range shots
    -Quicker than most big men
    -agile for his size
    -Shows some post moves
    -Can score very quickly
    -Shows potential to becoming a good rebounding</div>

    I remember how pissed you were. I was angry as well and I'm still angry that we drafted a pick and pop player in the lottery.

    -He can definetely knock down the open mid range jumpshot ala Kurt Thomas.
    -Not really.
    -Not really.
    -Once in a blue moon. His post up game is incredibly weak. Teams can actually get away with playing a small forward on him. His weak post up game is why Taylor is getting more minutes than Lee.
    -Not sure what you mean.
    -Poor rebounding and defense are key reasons why Larry Brown doesnt start him and rebounding isnt something you get substantially better at especially if you went to college for four years and know the fundamentals.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Lets check out what he can work on to become a great great player some day

    -getting more physical in the post
    -relying on his post game more than his jumpshot, he needs a 2nd weapon besides his shooting
    -Has the body to be a great help defender, so he should utilize his quickness and body into blocking shots and contesting shots. Not giving up on defense and fouling the guy.
    -Can become a better rebounder</div>

    -I dont see that happening.
    -He most certainly will not be an effective post up player.
    -He really isnt a quick player so I dont know why you think he is. Just watch him play defense.
    -He wont.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting j0se:</div><div class="quote_post">Marbury/Fyre has been perfect for each other, because they're good half court players.

    So this is why Fyre has looked lost, he can't create his own shot without Marbury creating it for him, so its difficult.

    But Isiah proved me wrong, Channing Fyre isn't a bust at all.

    But I just hope someday, he gets to a Pau Gasol level (his full potential in my opinion) cause we need something like that.

    Badly.</div>

    They've been perfect for each other because Frye is just a jumpshooting big man. Marbury doesnt have to feed the post(he's a bad post entry passer). He can hang onto the ball and treat Frye like he treated Doleac. Like most role players when noone gets Frye wide open he's a non factor. Years from now Knick fans will be talking about the ngiht when Isiah passed up Bynum for Frye like Knick fans talk about how Layden passed up Artest for Weis. And I hope you're kidding about the Pau Gasol compaarison because their nothing alike.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
     
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    I think you're really not giving Frye enough credit, Tribute. I know he prefers to shoot the jumper, but you also have to notice him taking it inside more often. He's improved his rebounding, his post moves are getting better, and he's also one of the top rookies of this class. He's not going to be a superstar in the league, but he can be a very valuable piece to this team someday.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting MrJ:</div><div class="quote_post">I think you're really not giving Frye enough credit, Tribute. I know he prefers to shoot the jumper, but you also have to notice him taking it inside more often. He's improved his rebounding, his post moves are getting better, and he's also one of the top rookies of this class. He's not going to be a superstar in the league, but he can be a very valuable piece to this team someday.</div>

    Oh come on! The few times he does decide to go in the post it's because he supposedly has a mismatch and usually nothing good comes out of it. No he hasnt significantly improved his rebounding or defense which is why he comes off the bench. You're right about him not being a superstar. He wont be an All-Star either or even just a star. He's just going to be a nice pick and pop player.


    Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.
     
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    like most of you said, i wouldnt worry about frye. hes just hit a rookie wall and considering all the traveling, minutes, and the roughness of the nba, its bound to happen. but i think frye is a good player and i wouldnt be surprised to see him be a major contributor in a couple of years

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Tribute to H2O:</div><div class="quote_post">Anyway I think Isiah Thomas should be fired.</div>
    [​IMG] you say this after every post. lol. although i do agree with you
     
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    I believe channing fye would become a solid player in the future he has the capability for fast improvement and what I like the most is his confidence that he has about him becoming a star and im pretty sure he would become one in the future I just hope he is still a KNICK when that happend.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NYCfinest123:</div><div class="quote_post">from 52% FG to 49%, this is sad he struggled lately, hes not as aggressive driving to the basket, he passed away wide open shots... hes hitting the rookie wall someone on the team better talk to him about it</div>

    "Channing, you're hitting the rookie wall, stop it."

    [​IMG]

    The Knicks suck, and he has been one of the few bright spots.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting NYCfinest123:</div><div class="quote_post">from 52% FG to 49%, this is sad he struggled lately, hes not as aggressive driving to the basket, he passed away wide open shots... hes hitting the rookie wall someone on the team better talk to him about it</div>
    Frye should be the least of your worries if you are a Knicks fan. I would worry more about log jams at the guard, worlds worst gm taking on massive contracts, and massive contracts to unworthy players who had one good playoff keeping you in SALARY CAP HELL TILL 2008.....AT LEAST!
     
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    He was labeled as a bust by just about everyone. He's probably the second best rookie in the league and puts up a solid 13/6 shooting well. That should be good enough. As other said, there's plenty more negatives regarding the Knicks than Frye.
     

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