Rockets Acquire Keith Bogans

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  1. Proz4k

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">HOUSTON, Feb. 9 – Houston Rockets General Manager Carroll Dawson announced today that the team has acquired guard/forward Keith Bogans from the Charlotte Bobcats in exchange for forward Lonny Baxter.</div>

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    I think it just a bad move by the GM, i projected a move to acquire a Forward to backup T-mac, Bogans is more like Wesley, Head, Sura and Barry...
     
  2. moeinhouston

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    SF that can defend and shoot is the immediate need for this team, but I think this was a good move, but I dont think it will pay off til Bogans is healthy.

    Baxter was last on the bench, so we actually got good quality for him to fill the Bobcats injury depleted front line.

    Bogans was just injured I think, which is not what any Rockets fan wants to hear. He's 6-5 can handle the ball and get to the basket when healthy. He can be a bigger body at that undersized 2 spot the Rockets have. So that makes him different than Wesley and Head, and he's young unlike Barry.

    Once he gets healthy he should be the starting 2,all he has to do is hit an OPEN shot. He's not a good three point shooter though.
     
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    I guess it's a pretty ok trade, I don't think it'll make any huge differences but I guess Baxter was tradeable now that we aquired Chuck Hayes...I heard Bogans was injured though...
     
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    Solid move. Baxter wasn't going to get any playing time with Swift back, and trading Hayes would have been a mistake.

    Keith Bogans is a good defensive swingman who can back up TMac. They also played together in Orlando so it's another Magic reunion. Having Bogans off the bench as a shooting guard or small forward will solve some of the size problems we have in the backcourt.
     
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    We needed a SG/SF with some size who can defend, so the trade makes sense. But I doubt he'll get a lot of significant minutes, if Wesley, Anderson, and Barry are healthy. Unless he proves he can hit the outside shot consistently.
     
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    Does this trade says something about Derek Anderson's healthy ? [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    derek anderson and jon barry are cleared off the injured list but they arent activiated because van gundy didnt want to mess the chemistry that the rockets had going before losing to the lakers on wednesday. I'd look for barry and anderson to be activated against the jazz and hayes,mutumbo, and sura on the inactive list because you cant put anyone else out. Bogans might play on saturday because his knee is healed to.. So.. hmmm Do you think the rockets can beat the jazz even if mcgrady shoots bad?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'd look for barry and anderson to be activated against the jazz and hayes,mutumbo, and sura on the inactive list because you cant put anyone else out.</div>
    Why Hayes? He's our second best rebounder and gives 110% when he's playing. If anything, its going to be Moochie Norris.
     
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    we need mooch but you maybe right, we need someone to backup alston incase head gets into foul trouble but I guess you maybe right mooch out and hayes in but I also wanted mutumbo because yao needs someone to back up to stro a lil to short for mehmet okur. But yea your right about one thing i just forgot that we had mooch on our team. I still look for the rockets to make more trades after this because we had alot of deals for other players too Hopefully with the trades we can get back in the playoffs only 6 games behind the lakers
     
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    I like the trade for the Rockets.
     
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    I hate to beat the same drum, but David Wesley really frustrates me. For example, too often if he doesn't have a shot, he drives to the basket with nowhere to go. If he had ANY athletic abilities, he'd maybe able to score or get fouled. Instead of giving the ball up to somebody who can actually dribble, he chooses to become a playmaker[​IMG] . This problem falls on Van Gundy's shoulders. Luther Head is out on the perimiter jackin up three's but should be getting in the paint, drawing fouls, and hittin open teammates. But he has Wesley lookin like a fake ass Steve Francis out there. I think Head needs to be handling the ball alot more. Other than that, I LIKE THE TRADE. We got more athletic, and that's a good thing.
     
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    Man we have too many people that can play the 2 spot.. Bogans, Wesley, Anderson, Barry, Mcgrday, and Head. I see Wesley getting traded in the future. When wesley gets traded this should be our starting lineup:

    PG: Alston/ Mooch
    SG: Anderson/ Barry/ Head/Bogans/
    SF: McGrady/ Bowen
    PF: Howard/ Stro/ Hayes
    C: Yao Ming/ Mutombo

    Im tired of yall saying that we really need a 3. Look at anderson and barry.. They are the types of players that can play the 2 or the 3. But we need a bigger 3 bcoz anderson and barry's main position. When mcgrady needs a breather we can get in anderson barry or bowen... i see both stro and wesley getting traded .... Stro bcoz he isnt as good as we thought he was gonna be. And wesley bcoz..... look at wesley.. him and anderson are the same.. Wesley gets more mins so we realy dont see nething out of anderson.. If we trade wesley other guys can show us their abililites like anderson and barry. Those guys are gonna get more mins and they are gonna be more effective.
    Can we trade stro and wesley for francis???

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Bogans, a 6-5 forward/guard who is signed through this season, would offer a strong defender and another catch-and-shoot option.

    The Bobcats, devastated with front-court injuries, would likely seek Lonny Baxter in the deal, but because they are under the salary cap, they would not have to make the salaries match.

    The Rockets could trade a player with a greater salary or use a trade exception they still hold from last season to make the trade.

    Bogans has averaged 8.3 points on 39.1 percent shooting in his three seasons. He played in Orlando with the Rockets' Tracy McGrady and Juwan Howard as a rookie out of Kentucky in the 2003-04 season.</div>
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    Remember: Bogan can play the 3... but y do we have so many undersized sf's except bowen.. and t-mac plays the 2...
     
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    No Tmac plays the 3.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">nd wesley bcoz..... look at wesley.. him and anderson are the same.. Wesley gets more mins so we realy dont see nething out of anderson.. If we trade wesley other guys can show us their abililites like anderson and barry. Those guys are gonna get more mins and they are gonna be more effective.</div>
    If I remember correctly, Anderson played major minutes early in the season when McGrady was first out. And If I do remember correctly, he played mediocre. He's a high volume player meaning he needs a lot of shots to score which in turn, takes away shots from McGrady and Yao. Anyone's that been around here for a while knows I'm pretty anti Anderson. I even vouched against him during the offseason because of his injury issues, which proved correct later on. But come on, if we really wanted to see the abilities of Barry and Anderson, why not just bench Wesley and Head for a couple games and not give them too many minutes? Is it really necessary to trade Wesley just for the sake of seeing that they can do? Besides, we saw Barry get minutes in the beginning, and he wasn't so effective anyway.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Can we trade stro and wesley for francis???</div>You cry about the lack of a pure small forward who will play 15 minutes tops and then ask for Steve Francis?
     
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    i like this trade for the fact that bogans can create his own shot unlike the rest of our backcourt - wesley, barry, head, etc.. need plays to set up their shot. The lowdown on bogans - good defender, streaky shooter, decent scorer.
     
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    I have seen Keith Bogans in some games before, both in Magic and Bobcats. He is a energetic guy who can shoot. I think it is a very good trade because Rockets is not gonna need Baxer anyways. I do like Bogans because I remember he cuts into the paint often which is what Rockets needs the most. I am sick of Howard's style that sticks with jump shot. Drive hard into the paint is the only way to get some wins. Or you will at most end up with like Dallas.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Locke:</div><div class="quote_post">You cry about the lack of a pure small forward who will play 15 minutes tops and then ask for Steve Francis?</div>

    I didnt say we really really need a pure small forward.. i said we have undersized sf's except bowen... And btw, im just asking people if that trade could be possible, and if it it could help out both teams.. dont be trying to diss people like that.. act like a leader!![​IMG]
     
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    What I dont get is when you said Wesley was going to be traded...you didnt put a player to replace his spot. Either your assuming we will get a draft pick for him or we waive him and that wont happen.
     
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    david wesely will retire soon anyway and nobody will want him in trades so.. Forget wesely.. Barry Anderson and Wesely for now are the 2 luther, alston, and mooch, and sura(when he comes back) will be the 1 but mooch might be traded because dawson said there could be one more trade after this and it could involve mooch. the 3 mcgrady bowen and bogans.. 4 is prolly hayes, stro, howard, and obviously 5 is yao and mutumbo.. That is all we need. If we do get one more trade it should be for a point guard or a sf even tho we dont need any of them we will prolly lose mooch. The only problem van gundy has is to activate barry and anderson NOW. He can put mooch, bowen, and sura in inactive list......... idk what they are doing but we could use some bench pts right now.. Also, he quoted once "as long as i have my job here in houston, ryan bowen will not leave this team" what has ryan really done he's the only one really who cant score but I admit sometimes he comes in and gets us on runs from his defense.
     

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